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Offline drewz21

Re: First Natami MX boards produced
« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2011, 04:30:36 PM »
Sign me up for one!   This is great news!
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Offline Matt_H

Re: First Natami MX boards produced
« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2011, 04:36:01 PM »
Oh, wow, I had no idea they were this far along. Will almost definitely pick up one of these upon release!
 

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Re: First Natami MX boards produced
« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2011, 04:38:41 PM »
Quote from: brownb2;615272
To be fair the RTFM means nothing (incidentally I had read the aims of the project) - a RISC cpu at the same clock would run rings around an 68K, likewise a native 3D core means S3 Virge or Geforce GTX 400 series performance. I see the niché in this product being a low power computing device with existing software that at a push can perform with the big boys but you wouldn't want to do heavy ray tracing/play the latest 3D shooter or emulate anything better than a PS2* on it when there are better machines available, i.e. its for casual usage and to satisfy an itch both in closure to an old architecture that needs perfecting and for fan base to get an update. :)

* and this is exactly why I think we'd need stats - to see where the bar can be set against comparable systems.

[EDIT]My ref. to the original Amiga price was of course referring to the A500 at its £200-£400 price, not the original original Amiga :)[/EDIT]


With PCI slots and USB, this looks like a nice replacement for my A4000 in a tower with Mediator and Deneb.

The question is, whether they have a usable USB stack ready to roll otherwise they can stick 100 USB ports on it and they'll mean nothing.
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Offline Tripitaka

Re: First Natami MX boards produced
« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2011, 04:49:03 PM »
I've been keeping an eyer on Natami for some time now and this is great news indeed. The price will be a big issue but we must remember that it should be compared to buying a vintage Amiga with comparable capability. That means accelerator, USB add on board, sound card etc. From this point of view it may well turn out to be a real bargain. Well done to all the Natami folks involved.
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Offline Hattig

Re: First Natami MX boards produced
« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2011, 04:53:20 PM »
A RISC CPU isn't much use when you want a 68k Amiga though.

We will hopefully find out soon how well the N68050 performs. If it can do one instruction per clock at 133MHz, that's certainly not too bad.

However we need better benchmarking software on the Amiga than SysInfo!
 

Offline Cammy

Re: First Natami MX boards produced
« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2011, 05:12:02 PM »
We have this for more thorough benchmarking - http://aminet.net/package/util/moni/AIBB_65

It just needs a module written for the Natami hardware.
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Offline Ral-Clan

Re: First Natami MX boards produced
« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2011, 05:13:01 PM »
Will this be fast enough to run Audio Evolution with effects?  I know Audio Evolution really required a 68060 to run at a minimum level of useability.  The ability to run a decent multi-track audio DAW would be a requirement for me.
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Offline amigasociety

Re: First Natami MX boards produced
« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2011, 05:27:41 PM »
Quote from: Matt_H;615277
Oh, wow, I had no idea they were this far along. Will almost definitely pick up one of these upon release!

Wondering if they have surpassed the X1000 in terms of getting boards made and in developers hands.  Sounds like these boards and heading out now to those select few so that is sweet.  Maybe a this year release to general public?  I sure hope we also get some good news on X1000 soon.  Looks like I might have to buy both this year if they get to sellers shelves.  8-)

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« Last Edit: February 13, 2011, 05:30:27 PM by amigasociety »
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Offline deadwood

Re: First Natami MX boards produced
« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2011, 05:37:35 PM »
I wonder if any of the Natami devs will be trying to get AROS m68k running on the board :)
 

Offline orb85750

Re: First Natami MX boards produced
« Reply #24 on: February 13, 2011, 05:45:22 PM »
Quote from: Hattig;615284
A RISC CPU isn't much use when you want a 68k Amiga though.

We will hopefully find out soon how well the N68050 performs. If it can do one instruction per clock at 133MHz, that's certainly not too bad.

However we need better benchmarking software on the Amiga than SysInfo!


OK, so is the N68050 like an improved 68040 or a degraded 68060?  Perhaps there's a write-up somewhere?
 

Offline Hattig

Re: First Natami MX boards produced
« Reply #25 on: February 13, 2011, 06:17:53 PM »
Quote from: deadwood;615298
I wonder if any of the Natami devs will be trying to get AROS m68k running on the board :)


I believe this is one of the aims, so that they can ship it fully functional. There's certainly been talk about it on the Natami forum.
 

Offline Karlos

Re: First Natami MX boards produced
« Reply #26 on: February 13, 2011, 07:02:54 PM »
Quote from: Forcie;615244
The MX board features:
-Altera FPGA from the Cyclone IV-series, containing the enhanced  Amiga chipset "SuperAGA" as well as other system logic, and the brand new 68k CPU design  "N68050"
-512 MB DDR2 SDRAM (onboard)
-1x PCI slot, expandable to 3x PCI with a PCI riser
-"SyncZorro" expansion slot, for adding f.e. a CPU card (68060 card will be available as an option for this slot)
-DVI-I port for 31kHz video (one can connect both analog VGA and digital DVI), scandoubling function for legacy modes
-15kHz RGB-output/input expansion slot (for optional 15kHz card)
-Realtek RTL8110 Gigabit Ethernet
-NEC USB2 controller and USB ports
-3,5 inch IDE port
-Internal Compact Flash connector (IDE)
-Kickstart flash memory
-Floppy connector (Amiga and PC drives both usable)
-Amiga serial port (although reduced to 9-pin)
-Amiga parallel port
-2x Amiga joystick/mouse port
-4x Cinch/RCA connectors for stereo sound output and input
-PS/2 keyboard/mouse ports (old bigbox Amiga keyboards are connectable)
-Classic Amiga LED:s along with scandoubler LED


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Offline Forcie

Re: First Natami MX boards produced
« Reply #27 on: February 13, 2011, 07:27:46 PM »
Quote from: ral-clan;615267
Will it be possible to use original Amiga mice on the joyports and original Amiga MIDI interfaces on the serial port (with 9 to 25 pin adapter)?

Yes to both questions. The joy/mouse ports are banging the hardware registers exactly like on a C= machine. I think that the only serial peripheral you cannot use with the Natami serial port is Amiga serial port samplers (since the serial port audio leads are not there. But since there are oldschool parallel port samplers too, it isn't really much of a problem. Besides, we have hifi audio in... ;) ).
I am going to be using an Amiga MIDI interface with my Natami myself.
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Offline spihunter

Re: First Natami MX boards produced
« Reply #28 on: February 13, 2011, 08:04:51 PM »
That's good to know. I was curious about using real Amiga hardware with it. A midi interface was exactly what I was wondering about. pretty cool!


Quote from: Forcie;615323
Yes to both questions. The joy/mouse ports are banging the hardware registers exactly like on a C= machine. I think that the only serial peripheral you cannot use with the Natami serial port is Amiga serial port samplers (since the serial port audio leads are not there. But since there are oldschool parallel port samplers too, it isn't really much of a problem. Besides, we have hifi audio in... ;) ).
I am going to be using an Amiga MIDI interface with my Natami myself.
 

Offline TheBilgeRat

Re: First Natami MX boards produced
« Reply #29 on: February 13, 2011, 08:45:12 PM »
sweeeet.  I think I may have jumped too soon onto a 4000 now :lol: