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Title: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: dammy on July 01, 2015, 03:44:28 PM
Final Writer running on AROS64.  Final Writer will be released for Amiga 68K, AROS, MorphOS, and Amiga OS4.
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: Acill on July 01, 2015, 04:06:35 PM
Very nice! The one thing that has bothered me all the years since using a modern Amiga like system, a real amiga with major upgrades and even emulation that has stopped me from even bothering to get word processors and office tool to run well is the lack of modern printing. This is still a problem even today. Is something being done to pair a modern printing solution with a new release of Final Writer?
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: Rob on July 01, 2015, 04:31:34 PM
Tim has been working on Gutenprint for AROS, can't remember if he's doing a MorphOS version as well.
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: trekiej on July 01, 2015, 04:32:25 PM
More Pro. tools, yes!
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: Terminills on July 01, 2015, 07:10:30 PM
Quote from: Rob;791902
Tim has been working on Gutenprint for AROS, can't remember if he's doing a MorphOS version as well.



The 68K version was already able to produce output on morphos
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: danbeaver on July 01, 2015, 10:10:13 PM
Quote from: Acill;791899
Very nice! The one thing that has bothered me all the years since using a modern Amiga like system, a real amiga with major upgrades and even emulation that has stopped me from even bothering to get word processors and office tool to run well is the lack of modern printing. This is still a problem even today. Is something being done to pair a modern printing solution with a new release of Final Writer?

Final Writer has had built in PostScript printing (in color) since the 1990's; what "modern printing solution" do you require?

Other than the obvious joke, what is an "office tool?"
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: amigakit on July 01, 2015, 10:26:44 PM
great to see the first screenshots :)
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: danbeaver on July 01, 2015, 10:27:07 PM
Just guessing what Mike will add,

Modern Printing Solution:
(http://www.amiga.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4242&stc=1&d=1435785280)

Office Tool:
(http://www.amiga.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4243&stc=1&d=1435785560)

Vs:
(http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/8156/3153/1600/Rendall%20the%20Tool.jpg)
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: Terminills on July 01, 2015, 10:51:25 PM
Quote from: dammy;791897
Final Writer running on AROS64.  Final Writer will be released for Amiga 68K, AROS, MorphOS, and Amiga OS4.



Here's an updated pic with the icon rendering endian issues fixed.
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: Acill on July 01, 2015, 11:16:41 PM
Quote from: danbeaver;791917
Final Writer has had built in PostScript printing (in color) since the 1990's; what "modern printing solution" do you require?

Other than the obvious joke, what is an "office tool?"


Modern as in not emulating HP printers from days past. I havent been able to print from a new printer properly in ages. Its not an easy task to get working and should be made easier.
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: Matt_H on July 01, 2015, 11:51:31 PM
Can't wait to buy!
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on July 02, 2015, 12:07:26 AM
@danbeaver - I do like that office tool!

Actually the only thing I would add to this thread is the "Shut up and take my money!" picture.  :hammer:
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: Wolfe on July 02, 2015, 12:12:03 AM
Quote from: danbeaver;791917
Final Writer has had built in PostScript printing (in color) since the 1990's; what "modern printing solution" do you require?

Other than the obvious joke, what is an "office tool?"


A secretary with benefits . . . :lol:
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: danbeaver on July 02, 2015, 01:16:57 AM
Quote from: Acill;791925
Modern as in not emulating HP printers from days past. I havent been able to print from a new printer properly in ages. Its not an easy task to get working and should be made easier.


Does PostScript emulate old HP printers? PCL now goes up to version 6, but why bother when all [my] modern printers use PS?
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: Ral-Clan on July 02, 2015, 01:20:29 AM
What the heck is going on in that polaroid tacked to the bulletin board in the picture above!!
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: danbeaver on July 02, 2015, 01:40:08 AM
Scratch and Sniff?
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: jj on July 02, 2015, 11:13:47 AM
If a printer supports PS it supports PS,  you don't need to emulate anything.  Is the issue more getting the OS to recognise the printer so you can print to it ?   Would have thought that printers all conform to the same standards for the standard features ?
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: F0LLETT on July 02, 2015, 11:42:39 AM
Quote from: ral-clan;791936
What the heck is going on in that polaroid tacked to the bulletin board in the picture above!!


How the hell did you spot something like that. Does look odd.

On Topic, more software = good.
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: ddniUK on July 02, 2015, 02:20:32 PM
The picture in a dorm looks like it's from 1989, but how is there a smart phone on the desk??
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: Ral-Clan on July 02, 2015, 03:10:07 PM
Quote from: ddniUK;791958
The picture in a dorm looks like it's from 1989, but how is there a smart phone on the desk??


Not a smart phone
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: paul1981 on July 02, 2015, 03:11:13 PM
Quote from: ddniUK;791958
The picture in a dorm looks like it's from 1989, but how is there a smart phone on the desk??


Look at that shelf in top left of photo - yes, full of cd's. Highly unlikely in 1989.

That polaroid was actually the first thing I noticed though....:)
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: pVC on July 02, 2015, 03:23:33 PM
Quote from: JJ;791949
If a printer supports PS it supports PS,  you don't need to emulate anything.  Is the issue more getting the OS to recognise the printer so you can print to it ?   Would have thought that printers all conform to the same standards for the standard features ?


Hmm.. my Amigas are networked and I've just printed to network printers with lpr.device or netprinter.device... at least then I don't need to worry about OS recognising :) So far my printers have worked just fine with HP laserjet drivers (they haven't been HP, but printers seem generally to work with it) or by printing postscript directly to them. If either of them wouldn't have worked, at least other printer had such printer server that I just could upload text files with ftp to it and it'd had printed them on its own :)

Anyway, I don't think there has been much problems with Amiga printing ever or now, if you just have a little more expensive printer than just the cheapest Windows only bulk printer...
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: trilobyte on July 02, 2015, 04:53:19 PM
Quote from: dammy;791897
Final Writer running on AROS64.  Final Writer will be released for Amiga 68K, AROS, MorphOS, and Amiga OS4.


My favorite word processor!  Wrote many documents in FW for high school and college.  Hooray!
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: ddniUK on July 02, 2015, 09:18:17 PM
Yeah CDs. Picture still looks pre smart phone.
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: paul1981 on July 02, 2015, 11:56:05 PM
Quote from: ddniUK;791982
Yeah CDs. Picture still looks pre smart phone.


Yes, on closer inspection, I suppose that smartphone could actually be a black cassette tape box. Then there's the VHS tapes, the VCR and the old TV. Plus, he's wearing a wrist watch, and what looks like a wind up as it has a tall glass dial. Strange photo indeed!
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: save2600 on July 03, 2015, 01:33:50 AM
Quote from: ddniUK;791958
The picture in a dorm looks like it's from 1989, but how is there a smart phone on the desk??


Quote from: paul1981;791962
Look at that shelf in top left of photo - yes, full of cd's. Highly unlikely in 1989.

That polaroid was actually the first thing I noticed though....:)


Both you guys are drunk. Not a smartphone, more likely a remote control for the TV and are you kidding about the CD's in 1989? I had dozens of them by that time and I was still a teenager! CD format was released in what, 1982. By the mid 80's, had my own machine. Late 80's, worked at a CD only store, who went with the LIFT display system. European design, which allowed you flip through the cd's one by one, like LP's. Very cool stuff!   :love:
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: save2600 on July 03, 2015, 01:39:14 AM
Thought it might be a remote, but thinking since it's next to makeup brushes, probably a woman's compact or cassette tape? Too small to be a VHS or Beta tape.

Scratch that, not makeup brushes, but a plastic tipped dart missing its flight. I'm betting that's a dart case and you better you better you bet that'd be something you'd see in a dorm back then!    :lol:
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: itix on July 03, 2015, 06:42:17 AM
I am still owning the original copy of FinalWriter 97 :-P
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: paul1981 on July 03, 2015, 12:15:16 PM
Quote from: save2600;792006
Thought it might be a remote, but thinking since it's next to makeup brushes, probably a woman's compact or cassette tape? Too small to be a VHS or Beta tape.

Scratch that, not makeup brushes, but a plastic tipped dart missing its flight. I'm betting that's a dart case and you better you better you bet that'd be something you'd see in a dorm back then!    :lol:


Can anyone photo-enhance this on their Amiga?
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: Pyromania on July 03, 2015, 12:36:44 PM
@Dammy

It looks nice, I bet a lot of hard work went into that.
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: Ral-Clan on July 03, 2015, 12:43:14 PM
Quote from: save2600;792005
Both you guys are drunk. Not a smartphone, more likely a remote control for the TV and are you kidding about the CD's in 1989? I had dozens of them by that time and I was still a teenager! CD format was released in what, 1982. By the mid 80's, had my own machine. Late 80's, worked at a CD only store, who went with the LIFT display system. European design, which allowed you flip through the cd's one by one, like LP's. Very cool stuff!   :love:

I agree.  I can't believe that we're debating that any black rectangle in a 1980s/90s photo must be a smart phone from the FUTURE!  Steve Jobs didn't invent the rectangle shape.

And in 1989 I entered university with a room mate who had a CD player and acquired at least that many CDs that year. His shelf looked pretty similar. Besides, who said this is even a 1989 photo? Could be 1993 for all I know and many people had at least a dozen CDs by that year.

Besides, it WAS taken between 1992-1995.  A Google image search reveals its source:
http://mainemaritimeacademy1992-1996.blogspot.ca/
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: dammy on July 03, 2015, 01:31:30 PM
Quote from: Pyromania;792033
@Dammy

It looks nice, I bet a lot of hard work went into that.


It's taken quiet a bit of developer time to get it to this stage. My hat is off to them on their dedication and speed.
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: QuikSanz on July 03, 2015, 06:55:43 PM
Quote from: paul1981;792032
Can anyone photo-enhance this on their Amiga?


When I zoom in on FireFox I can see that the right edge is clear. Must be a cassette box as CD players for cars where still expensive at the time.
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on July 03, 2015, 07:13:30 PM
Quote from: ral-clan;792034
Besides, it WAS taken between 1992-1995.  A Google image search reveals its source:
http://mainemaritimeacademy1992-1996.blogspot.ca/

I don't understand the relevance of this picture at all.

I especially don't understand this other one on your link!  :lol:

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/8156/3153/1600/Savanah%20%2811%29.1.jpg
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: Terminills on July 07, 2015, 10:23:37 PM
Quote from: dammy;791897
Final Writer running on AROS64.  Final Writer will be released for Amiga 68K, AROS, MorphOS, and Amiga OS4.


Newer screenshot showing a bit more progress. :)
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: danbeaver on July 07, 2015, 10:39:22 PM
I am still using the original FW on my X1000 and loving its true WYSIWYG print output from my color PS printer. I'll be buying the new version as soon as it comes out.
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: eliyahu on August 18, 2015, 06:11:09 PM
@thread

terminills has posted an updated screenshot (http://s175.photobucket.com/user/Kalamatee/media/FinalWriter2015-011_zpsod6xmzwn.jpg.html) of finalwriter 2015 over on AWN. great to see progress continuing.

-- eliyahu
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: dschallock on August 18, 2015, 06:58:46 PM
Yeah this is great news.  I have purchased every version of Final writer and Wordworth since they came out.  I will most definitely purchase this update when it is available for 68k.
A fun side note memory I have is of the authors of FW and WW competing with each other on the features and ranting back and forth on the forums.  CUCUG amiga website I believe.... but I could be remembering wrong.  Anyway... THANK YOU DAMMY!  You'll have my purchase when available!
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: danbeaver on August 18, 2015, 10:16:01 PM
Agreed!

This top on my list for Amiga purchases.
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: Terminills on August 19, 2015, 02:09:01 AM
Quote from: eliyahu;794178
@thread

terminills has posted an updated screenshot (http://s175.photobucket.com/user/Kalamatee/media/FinalWriter2015-011_zpsod6xmzwn.jpg.html) of finalwriter 2015 over on AWN. great to see progress continuing.

-- eliyahu



Say hello to datatype support. ;)
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: agami on August 19, 2015, 06:19:35 AM
Hello!
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: Terminills on August 24, 2015, 01:49:33 PM
If anyone is interested in betatesting the 68K or X86 PM me.  You'll need a github account. :)
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: Shamron on August 24, 2015, 03:46:37 PM
Quote from: danbeaver;792255
I am still using the original FW on my X1000 and loving its true WYSIWYG print output from my color PS printer. I'll be buying the new version as soon as it comes out.

Which version are you using? i got an old one, cant remember which one, will check when i get home. Did you need to do anything special to get it working on x1000? :-) or to get printing working?
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: Terminills on September 09, 2015, 12:18:50 PM
Quote from: Terminills;794478
If anyone is interested in betatesting the 68K or X86 PM me.  You'll need a github account. :)



I started uploading beta's last week hopefully I will get them all up this week. :)
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: Niding on September 09, 2015, 02:55:48 PM
This will find its way to my A1200 :)
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: xboxOwn on September 09, 2015, 03:02:56 PM
Quote from: Terminills;794478
If anyone is interested in betatesting the 68K or X86 PM me.  You'll need a github account. :)

I logged in but can't find the 68k or x86 version in GitHub.
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: Terminills on September 09, 2015, 03:58:22 PM
Quote from: xboxOwn;795327
I logged in but can't find the 68k or x86 version in GitHub.



Yes ironically I got the ARM and X86_64 bit versions up first
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: dammy on September 10, 2015, 02:54:41 PM
Quote from: Terminills;795331
Yes ironically I got the ARM and X86_64 bit versions up first


Love seeing AROS spread to multiple CPU arch and having major application like Final Writer 2015 coming along for the ride.
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: QuikSanz on July 25, 2016, 03:27:33 AM
Any updates on this?
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: Dandy on August 04, 2016, 11:02:56 AM
Quote from: itix;792012
I am still owning the original copy of FinalWriter 97 :-P


So do I...
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: Dandy on August 04, 2016, 01:43:35 PM
Quote from: eliyahu;794178
@thread

terminills has posted an updated screenshot (http://s175.photobucket.com/user/Kalamatee/media/FinalWriter2015-011_zpsod6xmzwn.jpg.html) of finalwriter 2015 over on AWN. great to see progress continuing.

-- eliyahu



Shouldn't it better be called FinalWriter 2016 or even 2017?
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: Terminills on August 05, 2016, 04:37:10 AM
Quote from: Dandy;812081
Shouldn't it better be called FinalWriter 2016 or even 2017?



Or 2018 :D
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: OlafS3 on August 05, 2016, 10:26:31 AM
that is a strange comment from owner... why not offering a updated 68k version first?
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: Terminills on August 05, 2016, 11:46:43 AM
Quote from: OlafS3;812115
that is a strange comment from owner... why not offering a updated 68k version first?



It's not strange.  It's merely taking much longer than I had hoped.  As for the 68K version it was my hope to get an updated one out first.
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: dschallock on August 05, 2016, 04:29:06 PM
Really looking forward to the updated 68k version!
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: magnetic on August 06, 2016, 05:06:30 AM
we look fwd to it i can help test it. btw your sig is hilarious
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: Niding on August 06, 2016, 10:29:25 AM
Yeah, really looking forward to the 68k. With the Vampire installed, using a updated FW will be a quite enjoyable expirience.
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: Terminills on August 06, 2016, 03:52:43 PM
Quote from: Terminills;812116
It's not strange.  It's merely taking much longer than I had hoped.  As for the 68K version it was my hope to get an updated one out first.


This has a little hint at the progress.


https://youtu.be/nr3Z2MAN-3M
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: Dandy on August 10, 2016, 01:47:46 PM
Quote from: Terminills;812180


This has a little hint at the progress.


https://youtu.be/nr3Z2MAN-3M



Yeah - Looks really nice!

I bought the FinalOffice 97 package back in 1998. I love FinalWriter, but here in Germany we had some orthography reforms the last in 2006.

This made the spell checker in FW more or less useless.

Is there a way to update the German spell-checker database as well?
Or a possibility to use an existing German open source spell-checker as plugin - like e.g. LanguageTool (https://languagetool.org/)?

Do you happen to know what became of FinalCopy, the "little brother" of FinalWriter?
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: Terminills on August 10, 2016, 03:41:13 PM
Quote from: Dandy;812355
Yeah - Looks really nice!

I bought the FinalOffice 97 package back in 1998. I love FinalWriter, but here in Germany we had some orthography reforms the last in 2006.

This made the spell checker in FW more or less useless.

Is there a way to update the German spell-checker database as well?
Or a possibility to use an existing German open source spell-checker as plugin - like e.g. LanguageTool (https://languagetool.org/)?

Do you happen to know what became of FinalCopy, the "little brother" of FinalWriter?



Yes I do... I even know what happened to prowrite :)

The new dictionary will be in an Aspell compatible format. =]
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: Terminills on August 17, 2016, 11:48:08 AM
Quote from: Terminills;812357
Yes I do... I even know what happened to prowrite :)

The new dictionary will be in an Aspell compatible format. =]



http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w131/Kalamatee/AROS%20x86_64-2016-08-14-15-42-55_zpssfwll8a2.png
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: Terminills on December 15, 2016, 11:15:06 AM
Quote from: Terminills;812684
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w131/Kalamatee/AROS%20x86_64-2016-08-14-15-42-55_zpssfwll8a2.png



(http://www.amiga.org/gallery/images/934/large/1_FW-Icaros.png)


Final Writer running native on icaros desktop.
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: bloodline on December 15, 2016, 11:39:39 AM
Awesome :)
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: QuikSanz on January 16, 2018, 02:37:31 AM
Been a while now. Any progress on Final Suite?
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: F1Lupo on January 16, 2018, 07:21:24 PM
Quote from: QuikSanz;835052
Been a while now. Any progress on Final Suite?

two more years..err weeks;):D
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on January 16, 2018, 07:24:29 PM
Quote from: klx300r;835060
two more years..err weeks;):D

It's not 2015 anymore.  Think they'll update the date?   :lol:
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: Terminills on January 07, 2019, 04:35:07 PM
Quote from: klx300r;835060
two more years..err weeks;):D

It's not 2015 anymore.  Think they'll update the date?   :lol:

3015? :P(https://i.imgur.com/CGdzl45.png)
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: Terminills on February 05, 2019, 02:52:01 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/RD93x5V/pw-pdf.png) (https://ibb.co/RD93x5V)
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: Nearly-Right on March 25, 2019, 05:03:42 AM
Is this 2019 working/Final Version of Final Writer v7 - ever likely to be ported/make it to MorphOS?  ;D
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: MaximvsPayne on March 25, 2019, 05:45:14 PM
Can't wait for the OS4 Port of FinalWriter!! :-)
Title: Re: Final Writer 2015 Update
Post by: Terminills on May 08, 2019, 05:51:14 PM
Is this 2019 working/Final Version of Final Writer v7 - ever likely to be ported/make it to MorphOS?  ;D


Sorry for the late reply.   Yes that is the plan.