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Title: SEEN 'THAT MOVIE'? Let's seperate fact from fiction
Post by: iamaboringperson on July 01, 2004, 02:47:38 AM
'THAT MOVIE'... V's McDonald's Australia

Claims crew memebers encourage customers to Super Size their meals.

We don't Super Size meals at all.


Says salads contain more calories from fat than a Big Mac[tm].

Our salads are all under 7 g of fat per serve and significantly less calories, including the dressing.


Suggests Yoghurt Parfaits have nearly as many calories as a Hot Fudge Sundae.

Our Berrynice Yoghurt Crunch has low-fat yoghurt, contains real fruit, has less calories and is 97% fat free.


Believes nutrition information is hard to come by.

We have nutrition information readily available in every restaurant, and on our websites.


States Chicken McNuggets[tm] are made from every part of the chicken.

The chicken in our McNuggets is breast and thigh meat.


Follows a diet averaging twice his recommended daily intake of calories.

We would not suggest anyone eat more than the recommended daily intake of calories.


Shows a man who deliberately avoids exercise whilst eating to excess.

We encourage everyone to exercise as part of an active lifestyle.


Documents a man who eats every meal, of every day, for 30 days, at McDonald's.

We don't recommend anyone follow this eating pattern, and suggest you enjoy McDonald's as part of a well balanced diet.


[color=990000]We hope all this is food for thought. Please visit www.mcdonalds.com.au for more information.

  Enjoy your meal.
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Title: Re: SEEN 'THAT MOVIE'? Let's seperate fact from fiction
Post by: that_punk_guy on July 01, 2004, 06:18:55 AM
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iamaboringperson wrote:
'THAT MOVIE'... V's McDonald's Australia

Claims crew memebers encourage customers to Super Size their meals.

We don't Super Size meals at all.


I assume they mean to say they no longer sell Supersize meals. Which is a pathetic avoidance of the actual question. Cwew members are aggwessively encouwaged to "sell up" - that is, force more garbage down the customer's thwoat. This included the Supersize portion, until it was wemoved from the menu in the UK (for monetawy weasons, rather than any noble quest for better health.)

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Says salads contain more calories from fat than a Big Mac[tm].

Our salads are all under 7 g of fat per serve and significantly less calories, including the dressing.


Suggests Yoghurt Parfaits have nearly as many calories as a Hot Fudge Sundae.

Our Berrynice Yoghurt Crunch has low-fat yoghurt, contains real fruit, has less calories and is 97% fat free.


Those two are suspiciously carefully worded. You see how they don't actually answer the damn question?

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Believes nutrition information is hard to come by.

We have nutrition information readily available in every restaurant, and on our websites.


Have you ever tried to get hold of one of the nutwition booklets at a McDonald's while the staff are flying back and forth twying to serve customers? Guess you could go home and check the website, then come back. That's a little inconvenient, isn't it?

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States Chicken McNuggets[tm] are made from every part of the chicken.

The chicken in our McNuggets is breast and thigh meat.


I don't have the wesources to check up on that anymore.

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Follows a diet averaging twice his recommended daily intake of calories.

We would not suggest anyone eat more than the recommended daily intake of calories.


Shows a man who deliberately avoids exercise whilst eating to excess.

We encourage everyone to exercise as part of an active lifestyle.


Documents a man who eats every meal, of every day, for 30 days, at McDonald's.

We don't recommend anyone follow this eating pattern, and suggest you enjoy McDonald's as part of a well balanced diet.


That's why they have such an aggwessive advertisement stwategy!
Title: Re: SEEN 'THAT MOVIE'? Let's seperate fact from fiction
Post by: iamaboringperson on July 01, 2004, 07:11:02 AM
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I assume they mean to say they no longer sell Supersize meals. Which is a pathetic avoidance of the actual question.
That's absolutely not what it means. How do you get an idea like that?

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Cwew members are aggwessively encouwaged to "sell up" - that is, force more garbage down the customer's thwoat.
That may be in the UK, however I've never experienced that in Australia.

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That's a little inconvenient, isn't it?
Not from where I'm sitting.

I'm pretty sure that in Australian McDonalds stores, I can see the nutritional information on the walls. Right there in black and white.

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That's why they have such an aggwessive advertisement stwategy!
'Agressive'!

Is that the best you can come up with? What exactly is an 'agressive' advertising strategy?

It's a little bit like saying that somebody's an 'agressive' chess player. They might be good at chess, but that means that they have good tactics. 'Aggression' is a quite meaningless word to be using in this context.


It seems that it doesn't matter how open McD's is about ingredients of food, etc. they still get the {bleep}. Often people accusing them of being dishonest. Seemingly out of nothing but pure whim.

Title: Re: SEEN 'THAT MOVIE'? Let's seperate fact from fiction
Post by: cecilia on July 01, 2004, 03:34:31 PM
if you didn't eat all that c.r.a.p maybe you wouldn't be such a boring person!
Title: Re: SEEN 'THAT MOVIE'? Let's seperate fact from fiction
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on July 01, 2004, 03:37:12 PM
Yeah, Iama, go on a 100%MCDonalds diet! :-)
Title: Re: SEEN 'THAT MOVIE'? Let's seperate fact from fiction
Post by: Wilse on July 01, 2004, 04:08:50 PM
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That may be in the UK


No may be about it.

Every single time I ate in McDs, I was asked if I wanted to supersize my meal.
Not that I have a problem with that. Choice is good.

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however I've never experienced that in Australia.


That's a shame. Supersize could be good. ;-)
Title: Re: SEEN 'THAT MOVIE'? Let's seperate fact from fiction
Post by: redrumloa on July 01, 2004, 04:34:23 PM
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'THAT MOVIE'


What movie?!? F911? Please don't tell me Moore's lard a$$ has the balls to talk about food!

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assume they mean to say they no longer sell Supersize meals. Which is a pathetic avoidance of the actual question.


I heard McDonalds stopped selling Super Sizes in some areas, but I didn't believe it. If they really did, then stupidity has really won. McDonald's not selling super sizes is going to do absolutely nothing to reduce weight or improve people's health. Who really thinks someone will eat less becuase of this? I just can't believe the level of stupity here!

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Have you ever tried to get hold of one of the nutwition booklets at a McDonald's while the staff are flying back and forth twying to serve customers?


I never really paid attention, and I simply rarely eat there anymore anyhow but McDonalds nutrition is far easier to obtain than 99% of resturants.
http://www.mcdonalds.com/usa.html (http://www.mcdonalds.com/usa.html)
The link is right on the home page. I also remember seeing the guide on the wall in many stores. Excpet for a handful of the biggest fast food chains, what resturants provide ANY info? Just about none.

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The chicken in our McNuggets is breast and thigh meat.


I'd be surprised if it was even chicken :-P

-rest snipped-

McDonalds is a terrible place to get a healthy meal, no matter what someone's view on eating. Does that make individuals eating habits the responsibilty of the McDonalds corporation? pfft. If Michael More himself wants to eat tub after tub of pure lard(Which i suspect he does), and dies of a heart attack, should the maker of the lard be sued?

I'm no big fan of McDonalds, on many levels. OTOH I think it is ridiculous how people refuse to point the finger of blame for soeone's eating habits where it should be, at the person putting the food in their own mouth.

On a side note.. Fat isn't the big issue, it's the carbs and sugar, like I was saying before this new low carb diet craze :lol:  
Title: Re: SEEN 'THAT MOVIE'? Let's seperate fact from fiction
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on July 01, 2004, 04:44:50 PM
I quite agree with here with Red.
It's alike the lawsuits of smokers against tobacco companies.
But there's another side of this. One should know what he/she eats. I mean, I think it should be publicly known what kind of meat they use in restaurants (ANY kind of restaurant).
Also, some tobacco companies add other addictive substances in the tobacco they produce. If that's unknown, it's really unacceptable.
Title: Re: SEEN 'THAT MOVIE'? Let's seperate fact from fiction
Post by: bloodline on July 01, 2004, 05:01:12 PM
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On a side note.. Fat isn't the big issue, it's the carbs and sugar, like I was saying before this new low carb diet craze


I'm actually surprised as to how much better I feel and how much thiner I am since I eliminated Carbs from my diet!
Title: Re: SEEN 'THAT MOVIE'? Let's seperate fact from fiction
Post by: cecilia on July 01, 2004, 06:27:07 PM
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What movie?!? F911? Please don't tell me Moore's lard a$$ has the balls to talk about food!
don't be rediculous.

super size me (http://www.supersizeme.com/)

this film has nothing to do with moore. it was made by an entirely different person.  and it's about fast food in general. considering that being overweight has become the number one killer in america, it's not a silly issue.
Title: Re: SEEN 'THAT MOVIE'? Let's seperate fact from fiction
Post by: that_punk_guy on July 01, 2004, 08:12:00 PM
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iamaboringperson wrote:
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I assume they mean to say they no longer sell Supersize meals. Which is a pathetic avoidance of the actual question.
That's absolutely not what it means. How do you get an idea like that?


It's the only logical conclusion, since McDonald's do sell up and Supersize is the biggest there is. The only way they could "not supersize" would be to not sell supersize products. Why wouldn't I come to that conclusion, given that the supersize product line was indeed cancelled in the UK?

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Cwew members are aggwessively encouwaged to "sell up" - that is, force more garbage down the customer's thwoat.
That may be in the UK, however I've never experienced that in Australia.


Pay more attention then. It is McDonald's policy and pwinted in all training materials internationally, sell up wherever possible.

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That's a little inconvenient, isn't it?
Not from where I'm sitting.

I'm pretty sure that in Australian McDonalds stores, I can see the nutritional information on the walls. Right there in black and white.


That's odd, perhaps it's a new development. Do you have a photograph? Does it have a proper breakdown of each individual product in a table?

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That's why they have such an aggwessive advertisement stwategy!
'Agressive'!

Is that the best you can come up with? What exactly is an 'agressive' advertising strategy?

It's a little bit like saying that somebody's an 'agressive' chess player. They might be good at chess, but that means that they have good tactics. 'Aggression' is a quite meaningless word to be using in this context.


Why the f**k are you talking about chess? :-?

Engage your brain. If you can't figure out what aggressive marketing is, perhaps you should consider learning the English language or something.

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It seems that it doesn't matter how open McD's is about ingredients of food, etc. they still get the {bleep}. Often people accusing them of being dishonest. Seemingly out of nothing but pure whim.


Yes, because I never worked there and I never saw that sh*t with my own eyes. :roll:

You on the other hand are a consumer, apparently the target market of a scary, almost indoctrinaire marketing scheme. It works on you. So who knows more about McDonald's, me or you?

Still, when you die a fat, lonely homophobe, I will be laughing.

...Wow, wait... is that un-PC?
Title: Re: SEEN 'THAT MOVIE'? Let's seperate fact from fiction
Post by: redrumloa on July 01, 2004, 09:41:23 PM
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super size me


 :insane:

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considering that being overweight has become the number one killer in america


Says who?
Title: Re: SEEN 'THAT MOVIE'? Let's seperate fact from fiction
Post by: redrumloa on July 01, 2004, 09:42:19 PM
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Still, when you die a fat, lonely homophobe, I will be laughing.


Is it me or has the tone here in CH been getting mean spirited?
 :-?
Title: Re: SEEN 'THAT MOVIE'? Let's seperate fact from fiction
Post by: Wain on July 01, 2004, 10:03:42 PM
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redrumloa wrote:
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super size me


 :insane:

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considering that being overweight has become the number one killer in america


Says who?


It's not nunber 1...It's number 2, but if trends continue it's expected to be number one by 2005

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/extra/features/jan-june04/obesity_3-15.html

Title: Re: SEEN 'THAT MOVIE'? Let's seperate fact from fiction
Post by: that_punk_guy on July 01, 2004, 10:07:50 PM
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redrumloa wrote:
Is it me or has the tone here in CH been getting mean spirited?
 :-?


In my case it's most likely because I'm pissed off at how openly racist, sexist and/or homophobic threads have become a normality here.

I realise that just adds to the problem, and was going to remove that comment, but then decided he's been going out of his way to offend others so perhaps he should experience it for himself.
Title: Re: SEEN 'THAT MOVIE'? Let's seperate fact from fiction
Post by: cecilia on July 02, 2004, 12:26:15 AM
you weren't being "mean", chris.

i thought your comment was amusing. and as it's directed toward ONE main dope, it felt needed. :-D




wain: thanks for the link. i was looking for that!
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Post by: KennyR on July 02, 2004, 12:56:32 AM
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Title: Re: SEEN 'THAT MOVIE'? Let's seperate fact from fiction
Post by: iamaboringperson on July 02, 2004, 02:52:13 AM
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It's the only logical conclusion, since McDonald's do sell up and Supersize is the biggest there is. The only way they could "not supersize" would be to not sell supersize products. Why wouldn't I come to that conclusion, given that the supersize product line was indeed cancelled in the UK?
READ the original sentence again. More carefully this time.

I've certainly never been asked if I want to supersize a meal, and if they have these leaflets on the counter - besides the registers - which people may take when they're ordering, it seems silly to contradict what is written on the text right in the customers hand.

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Pay more attention then. It is McDonald's policy and pwinted in all training materials internationally, sell up wherever possible.
I pay as much attention as any other customer. I would certainly know if I was being asked if I want to 'supersize' my meal, or if I 'want fries with that'. I do have a tendancy to notice such things.

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That's odd, perhaps it's a new development. Do you have a photograph? Does it have a proper breakdown of each individual product in a table?
Are you calling me a liar?

I'm afraid you will just have to take my word for it this time. There are great big posters on the wall near the counter (usually on the right, in most stores).

There are also plenty of leaflets that are available on the side of the restaurant.

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Why the f**k are you talking about chess?
It's a kind of analogy thing.

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If you can't figure out what aggressive marketing is, perhaps you should consider learning the English language or something.
Well, since your obviously the English professor here ... perhaps you would like to give me YOUR description of what 'aggressive' actually means when it comes to marketing.

For example, what are the differences between agressive and non-agressive marketing?


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You on the other hand are a consumer, apparently the target market of a scary, almost indoctrinaire marketing scheme. It works on you. So who knows more about McDonald's, me or you?
You tell me you know more. You want me to think you know more. But you don't seem to want to prove it.

Everything you've written so far is contrary to what I find in the real world. And so, I either believe my own eyes, or, some mug who claims he works at McDonalds.

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Still, when you die a fat, lonely homophobe, I will be laughing.
Sweet! :-)

I wont be there to hear it!

(I don't know how I'll get fat though, and I don't know why my death would be any of your concern... but there you go :)

Title: Re: SEEN 'THAT MOVIE'? Let's seperate fact from fiction
Post by: that_punk_guy on July 02, 2004, 03:44:57 AM
I'm not even going to bother. You are a major {bleep}.
Title: Re: I'm Lovin' It
Post by: that_punk_guy on July 02, 2004, 03:45:41 AM
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KennyR wrote:
(http://immolation.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/lovinit.gif)


:lol:
Title: Re: SEEN 'THAT MOVIE'? Let's seperate fact from fiction
Post by: iamaboringperson on July 02, 2004, 06:07:07 AM
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that_punk_guy wrote:
I'm not even going to bother. You are a major {bleep}.
Fine! Thankyou!

I'm only interested in the opinions of half intelligent people, anyway.

If you can't make a decent argument without the personal attacks, you honestly DO NOT BELONG HERE. :-)
Title: Re: SEEN 'THAT MOVIE'? Let's seperate fact from fiction
Post by: iamaboringperson on July 02, 2004, 06:26:14 AM
I liked that anim GIF, BTW. :)
Title: Re: SEEN 'THAT MOVIE'? Let's seperate fact from fiction
Post by: CU_AMiGA on July 02, 2004, 12:02:19 PM
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iamaboringperson wrote:
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that_punk_guy wrote:
I'm not even going to bother. You are a major {bleep}.
Fine! Thankyou!

I'm only interested in the opinions of half intelligent people, anyway.

If you can't make a decent argument without the personal attacks, you honestly DO NOT BELONG HERE. :-)


Yeah. Like you did with homosexuals you mean? You two faced git.
Title: Re: SEEN 'THAT MOVIE'? Let's seperate fact from fiction
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on July 02, 2004, 02:01:03 PM
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iamaboringperson wrote:
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that_punk_guy wrote:
I'm not even going to bother. You are a major {bleep}.
Fine! Thankyou!

I'm only interested in the opinions of half intelligent people, anyway.

If you can't make a decent argument without the personal attacks, you honestly DO NOT BELONG HERE. :-)
As if you ever used any argument at all with your rants and countless personal attacks, Iama :lol:
Title: Re: SEEN 'THAT MOVIE'? Let's seperate fact from fiction
Post by: that_punk_guy on July 03, 2004, 07:06:57 PM
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iamaboringperson wrote:
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that_punk_guy wrote:
I'm not even going to bother. You are a major {bleep}.
Fine! Thankyou!

I'm only interested in the opinions of half intelligent people, anyway.

If you can't make a decent argument without the personal attacks, you honestly DO NOT BELONG HERE. :-)


Shall we submit that to popular vote, see how that comes out?
Title: Re: SEEN 'THAT MOVIE'? Let's seperate fact from fiction
Post by: blobrana on July 04, 2004, 12:05:13 AM
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What going on here...


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