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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: Arabman on June 29, 2004, 05:19:58 PM
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Hi all!
Is there a free workbench 3.0 on the Internet
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Is there a free program to connect my Amiga to my PC
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Not for free, but you can buy Amiga Forever (http://www.amigaforever.com/) which provides everything you need.
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Hehehee, cant say that there is a free workbench out there. You can buy a copy if you would like though. :-D
As far as connecting your amiga to your PC... WinUAE allows the reading of an Amiga harddrive.
But on how to network them, it has me beat. :-D :-)
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Is there a free workbench 3.0 on the Internet
Yes, check out AmigaInABox (http://aiab.emuunlim.com/).
Is there a free program to connect my Amiga to my PC
Yes, there are many, but you need to specify what cables/connection you have between your Amiga and PC. I can't give you a specific answer here.
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Yes, check out AmigaInABox.
AIAB needs an ADF image of WB3x to install, IIRC.
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Yeppers, AIAB needs an ADF of the Workbench 3.0/3.1 disk. So AIAB is not a free Workbench. It just has needed and presetted files of shareware and freeware tools (like MUI etc). AIAB has no copyrighted Amiga files in it. :-)
So you still need to get a hold of the original Workbench disks :-)
Getting them to ADF on Amiga is easy, just create a diskimage with a tool like TransADF, Image2Disk etc, then compress (preferably zip) your image and copy it onto a PC formatted (720kb) disk. Then take that disk to your PC and get that file. Easy :-D
There are lot of other ways to do that, just try and find out. Amigans always use their brain :-D
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I use AIAB
First I transdisk'd my Workbench3 floppies to ADF on the A1200
Then I transrom'd the kickstart 3.1 roms to rom image files.
Then I used NComm3.0 from my AminetSet CDroms on the A1200
connected thru a "LapLink" cable to my Windoze Pee C via serial ports.
I launched Hyperterm on Windoze, configured them both for ZmodemCRC transfers.
Then "uploaded" bbs-style from the A1200 to the Pee C
I obtained anywhere fro 56kbits to 100kbits transfers which equated to about 30 seconds per disk (Im a patient man)
Once the files were on the Pee C , I unconnected,powered-off and placed my A1200 in the closet.
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Hey,
Welcome to Amiga.org as well as to the Amiga, but please note that Workbench, and AmigaOS are still covered by International trademark and copyrights. As such, obtaining a "free copy" (unless someone gives you a full boxed version or legitimate disks) is illegal, and the discussion of illegal activities is strictly prohibited on Amiga.org.
That being said, good luck.
Wayne
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thank you drHirudo :
Thank you for your information about the workbench(and for
all the forum members of course)
and I would like to say that I made a Null-Modem Serial Cables
to connect my PC to the Amiga but the problem is that the
Amiga Transfer Program that I got is an EVALUATION VERSION
and does not support the copying of files longer than 1KB !!!
Thanks again ,
:-)
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This is the same way that I do my transfers, I use a serial cable with null modem, run a term application on the PC and on the Amiga. You can find some good freeware term applications for the Amiga on Aminet. Try one of those.
Hope this helps, good luck!
- Mike
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Oh Geez. "Term program". There's something I had thankfully resigned to an 80's dumpster memory, along with zip memory and dot matrix printers.
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and I would like to say that I made a Null-Modem Serial Cables
to connect my PC to the Amiga but the problem is that the
Amiga Transfer Program that I got is an EVALUATION VERSION
and does not support the copying of files longer than 1KB !!!
Try TwinExpress (http://ftp.unina.it/pub/aminet/misc/emu/TWINEXPRESS.lha) or PC2Amiga (http://ftp.unina.it/pub/aminet/comm/misc/PC2Am308.lha).
But if your null-modem cable is 7-wire (NOT 3-wire), you can do PPP nullmodem connection to your PC and set FTP server on the PC. Check out Miami Deluxe (http://ftp.unina.it/pub/aminet/comm/tcp/MiamiDx10cmain.lha) documentation for more on this and how to do it.
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Wayne wrote:
Oh Geez. "Term program". There's something I had thankfully resigned to an 80's dumpster memory, along with zip memory and dot matrix printers.
I know, I know ... it's pretty old school, but, I actually enjoy it to some extent. Plus, the price of purchasing hardware for networking is kind of prohibitive in my opinion. This is cheap, and free and I am cheap, and I like free stuff. It's a match made in heaven I tell ya! :-D
Thanks,
- Mike
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@drwho
So, could you just connect an Amiga 1200 to a PC with XP- load up Hyperterminal and a term program for the Amiga, and then transfer your stuff via Null-Modem? If so, what is a good term program for the Amiga?
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Wayne wrote:
Oh Geez. "Term program". There's something I had thankfully resigned to an 80's dumpster memory, along with zip memory and dot matrix printers.
Hmm, don't say that to people working in the networking business.. Most active network devices are configured initially through an RS-232 port using a terminal program.
Also, many servers (sun, ibm, hp) are still initially configured through an RS-232 port via a terminal / terminal program. (no graphics card / keyboard in a unix server usually)
After you have everything running, you can telnet / ssh in, of course.. Until they stop at the firmware prompt, because your boot disk is missing, or something happened and it couldn't go multiuser. Time to plug your cable into the RS-232 port.. Of course most people use terminal servers for this, telnettable boxes that have many rs-232 ports that connect to the console ports of the servers.
That brings to mind: ssh and telnet-style programs are terminal programs, if they open their own window to display what happens on the remote machine (like is the case if you're running something other than a Unix flavour).. So is xterm, dtterm, gterm, kterm, and what have you..
The Windows command prompt emulates an ANSI terminal to some extent too, like does the Amiga's CON window. :-)
Whoops! Suddenly terminal programs are all around you, even though not all of them talk to a serial port..
They're far from dead, my friend. :-D
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Jope wrote:
Whoops! Suddenly terminal programs are all around you, even though not all of them talk to a serial port..
They're far from dead, my friend. :-D
Well said. :-)
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Well, yes, it is that easy. It's not incredibly fast or anything, although, you can use a fairly high speed for the port, since you do not suffer from the shortcomings of an actual modem.
I think that JRCom and NComm are both really nice terminal applications for the Amiga. Unfortunately, they are commercial and I doubt that you are going to be able to find *legal* versions out there to use.
Aminet has a bunch of ones you can use though, I just did a search for "terminal" and got almost a whole page of terminal applications.
- Mike
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Hi there!
Well I don't know why everyone is talking about AIAB... Amiga In A Box
is an Amiga emulation program for the PC!
The best way to connect an Amiga and a PC together is the rare Siamese
System which used serial or ethernet links and put Workbench onto the
Windows '95 screen.
Today you might want to try something more available... I think Samba
is an Amiga program for networking. And if know your stuff you can
just get a PCMCIA ethernet card and link the PC directly to the Amiga
via a TCP/IP program such as Genesis/Miami.
I wondered at first why Wayne was warning us about piracy, because
every Amiga owner has obviously the right to Workbench for free. But
then I realised that there are a lot of UAE users out there...
vultures ready to peck at the Amiga goodness!
:-D
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I wondered at first why Wayne was warning us about piracy
It had to do with "Is there a free workbench 3.0 on the Internet" (or something to that effect). As a new AO user and obviously new Amiga user, I wanted to make sure that the user was aware of every implication of his question. It also never hurts to "bump" the Posting guidelines to the front of everyone's thoughts.
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What's the problem guys? Floppy disks aren't sold anymore? That's the easiest solution imo. :-D
Why to hassle around with cables and stuff?
Format a 720k PC floppy on miggy, don't forget to block the part where the hole is that indicates it's a 1.4MB or 720k disk, or else PC can't read it. Then copy over your zipped WB disk and Amiga ROM, unpack them on PC and voila! :-)
Only tools you need here is CrossDOS or FAT95 installed for formatting a PC floppy and zip.exe. FAT95 and zip can be found on aminet freely... :-)
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CaptainHIT wrote:
What's the problem guys? Floppy disks aren't sold anymore? That's the easiest solution imo. :-D
Why to hassle around with cables and stuff?
Well, in my defense, I am an engineer and a former Unix admin, so, it is in my nature to do everything the hard way. I would have thought of just using "sneaker-ware", but, the twinkie-eating, D&D playing, Cli driven geek inside me immediately took over and decided that a complex setup involving cables and hard-to-find software was the only route worth traveling. Try to keep in mind that I would write a 50 line shell script to save typing one command in an xterm ... ;-)
- Mike
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@CaptainHit
That solution sucks with big files... even with ADF's.