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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: on January 26, 2003, 12:21:33 PM
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Hi all
Does anyone know how I could network my AmigaOne to a PC which is already using NTL broadband so the Amiga could share the broadband of the PC? Is this possible, or can I only have broadband on one computer?
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Windows 2000 and XP have internet connection sharing you can use that, win9x i dont know...
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If you are connecting both by ethernet then there shouldn't be too much of a problem. In Windows you will need to start up internet sharing and on the Amiga, setup your TCP software to use DHCP etc. In theroy that should work. I haven't tried it tho, but will be soon!
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NTL broadband uses USB IIRC, so connecting the A1 that way shouldn't present any problems... as for connecting to a PC that has a connection... I've never tried it.. but people on here have.. quite succesfully I believe.
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@elektro
Win98se has it too... you have to select it from the installer CD as it's not obvious, then set up the default gateway... job done... It's probably easier under 98 than 2k.
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Elektro wrote:
Windows 2000 and XP have internet connection sharing you can use that, win9x i dont know...
Win98SE does but not 98 or 95
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Thanks for the help
I will try it as soon as I get the CD from my mates (its a copy)
When I get it, any chance of a step by step way to do it
I'd like to get a USB cable to go from the PC to my A1, and do it that way if possible as routers are expensive
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NTL broadband uses USB IIRC
They send their customers those USB adapters but i prefer to use a ethernet card than NTL`s adapter and their crappy cd which still they keep teling people they must use the cd which is total lies,
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@paul-gadd
I've got a lappy with no CD drive and i'm thinking about using ntl BB, i'll probably use the USB but obviously theres no way I can use their CD....
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Just buy a compatible broadband router (not too expensive nowadays) and the problem is solved.
With a router you don't even have to have your PC switched on to access the net.
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@Skyraker
Download and Install drivers for the usb adapter, plug in RJ45 cable, type start.html in browser, enter account details and reset stb (if used) then away you go, no cd needed at all.
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@paul_gadd
Nice one, cheers mate.
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np :-).
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How does a router work then?
You plug the NTL USB cable in, and a USB cable coming out the other end to the A1?
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@amigaone,
step by step guide as requested...
I'm assuming you have a usb cable modem and have ethernet connections on your amiga and pc
1. Use the usb connection to connect your modem to your pc (this is probably already the case)
2. Go to www.analogx.com and download the proxy software under the network subheading
3. Install the proxy on the pc
4. On your pc:
control panel -> settings -> network
click the entry that says:
Network_card -> tcp ip
and then properties
select assign an ip address manually and enter:
ip address 192.168.0.1
netmask 255.255.255.0
5. On the amiga set your network settings as follows:
ip address 192.168.0.2
netmask 255.255.255.0
gateway 192.168.0.1
6. Now start the proxy you downloaded and view the readme file , it will tell you all the port numbers the proxy uses.
7. Back to the amiga, modify ur browser proxy settings so they point to:
192.168.0.1 with the respective ports from the readme file (for the proxy)
Any questions, just ask....
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The router connects to your broadband modem with an RJ45 ethernet cable via the Wan port on the router to the ethernet port on the modem. Most routers will have 4 ethernet ports for plugging in computers to the network. If your modem is USB only, then you will not be able to use it with a router (none that I know of).
In the case of USB only, setup the USB modem on the PC with drivers and configure your internet. You will need to have an ethernet card in both the PC and AmigaOne, and connect them with a crossover cable. Setup Internet Connection Sharing from the PC and select the USB modem as the device which you access the internet with, and the ethernet is for accessing your lan. On the AmigaOne, you should just setup the network stack to obtain IP address auto from DHCP server. This should work ok, but requires that the PC stay on to access the net from A1. Hope that helps and makes sense.
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Oh yeah should have mentioned that you WILL need to use a crossover cable between the two machines. Thanks to herewegoagain for that reminder....
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There is no cable modem
It comes through the NTL STB
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Does the stb have an ethernet port (a spare one??)
If so use that to connect to your amiga
The config should still be the same though or at least very similar
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You can get several free proxy servers for Winbloat (e.g. Proksi, MultiProxy...), look at
download.com free proxy servers (http://download.com.com/3120-2001-0-1-0.html?qt=proxy%2Bserver&li=49)
I haven't done this myself, was thinking of it a few days ago, apparently though according to user opinions setting some of the free ones up is cake.
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You can get several free proxy servers for Winbloat (e.g. Proksi, MultiProxy...), look at
download.com free proxy servers (http://download.com.com/3120-2001-0-1-0.html?qt=proxy%2Bserver&li=49)
I haven't done this myself, was thinking of it a few days ago, apparently though according to user opinions setting some of the free ones up is cake.
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There is no cable modem
It comes through the NTL STB
Well, being in the US, I'm not familiar with their service. But I took a look at the NTL website and requirements. It looks like they offer 2 options for connecting broadband:
1) Through a cable modem, or
2) Through your STB with built in cable modem
Taken from their "what you need page". (http://www.ntlhome.com/ntl_internet/need_broadband.html)
So you do have a cable modem, its just integrated into the STB. The big question is if it has an ethernet port or USB only? According to this page, if you have an STB you should have recieved the following items:
An Ethernet cable
Ethernet-to-USB adapter
Cross-over (x-over) adapter
Those items will allow you to do the things discussed above.
This seems to be a fairly good source of info too:
http://www.ntluser.co.uk/ (http://www.ntluser.co.uk/)
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@AmigaOne
What kind of STB do you have from NTL ?
Can you link to pictures of the ports etc that are on the box?
How is the PC connected to the box?
I use a Draytek (http://www.draytek.co.uk/products/router_compare.html) Vigor2200USB router that is connected to a USB ADSL modem. They now have a new version with the modem built in.
I don't know if any of these are compatible with your setup. If they are I recommend them.
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I use a Draytek Vigor2200USB router that is connected to a USB ADSL modem. They now have a new version with the modem built in.
That's cool they now support USB modems, but it seems these are for ADSL only, and just support about 7 different modems specifically. I don't think that would work with the broadband service he is using as it comes in via STB and not ADSL.
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Connect the PC to the modem via ethernet.
Turn modem off (Motorola) Turn back on.
From msdos prompt type:
ipconfig /renew
Set up internet explorer to use LAN.
You should get have an IP address.
Shut down windows.
Install a second network card
Connect the Amiga one to the 2nd network card using a cat5 cross over cable.
Boot Windows / Amiga
Windows 95 / 98 download and install wingate
Windows me
Add programs / windows setup / comms / ICS
ICS stands for internet connection sharing.
Go through the wizard.
Windows 2000 / XP right click on properties for the 1st network card and click internet sharing.
start the tcp/ip using dchp on the miggy and bobs your uncle you should be done.
Did my PC (win2000) and A1200T miamidx /samba in about 10 mins yesterday.
Dont connect the Motorola using USB for ICS
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Paul_Gadd wrote:
NTL broadband uses USB IIRC
They send their customers those USB adapters but i prefer to use a ethernet card than NTL`s adapter and their crappy cd which still they keep teling people they must use the cd which is total lies,
The CD is designed for PC muppets. people who should realy put their PC in a box and send it back to pc-world.
You wonder why you cant get through to the helpline.
Its because of these thick people. But you cant say that to them when they are paying you £40 a month.
The CD is designed to help stop fraud. The DHCP severs are configured to look for the MAC address of the modem.
If the Server finds a Unregistered modem during a sweep it will block that mac address.
It will take you to the autoreg site where you enter the MAC address of the modem.
Unless you know the URL of the Register Site you have to use the CD.
If the MAC is not registered the regsiter is the only one you will be able to connect to.
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AmigaOne wrote:
There is no cable modem
It comes through the NTL STB
You living in an old cable and wireless franschise area. With cable and wireless STB's.
Diamond cable (ntl) does not use STB's with the modems built in.
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@Herewegoagain
That's cool they now support USB modems, but it seems these are for ADSL only, and just support about 7 different modems specifically. I don't think that would work with the broadband service he is using as it comes in via STB and not ADSL.
To quote from the Draytek website (http://www.draytek.co.uk/products/vigor2200.htm) :
>>>>> Cable - Cable Modem Interface. The product has an RJ45 10BaseT Etherner socket which plugs into your cable modem or set-top box's Ethernet interface, using the RJ45 CAT5 cable (supplied). This is ideal for UK cable services from Telewest Blueyonder and NTL. The interface can also be used to route to any other type of Ethernet connected network, or another router, including another ADSL router such as a non-NATted ADSL router <<<<
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@JurassicCamper
You mentioned wingate,
Can that be used on a single machine with broadband access to hide the ip address?
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To quote from the Draytek website :
>>>>> Cable - Cable Modem Interface. The product has an RJ45 10BaseT Etherner socket which plugs into your cable modem or set-top box's Ethernet interface, using the RJ45 CAT5 cable (supplied). This is ideal for UK cable services from Telewest Blueyonder and NTL. The interface can also be used to route to any other type of Ethernet connected network, or another router, including another ADSL router such as a non-NATted ADSL router <<<<
Um.....yeah, I know that the other versions support the ethernet port and cable modems, but you were talking about the Vigor2200USB version, which is why I commented on that one. A bit of miscommunication I think.
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A bit of miscommunication I think.
yeah probably :-)
I am only guessing it will work anyway. I have not tested it so I can't be sure.
I hope the original poster can get his problem sorted soon. I am sure there will be many more ways to solve this and I am sure that when A1s get more widespread we will find out about many interesting ideas and solutions. ;-)
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Although I'm NOT on NTL and therefore have no use for a cable modem etc.. I and I'm sure Calen too, will be interested in how Broadband access on A1 pans out !!
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Ditch the nasty USB modem.
Get a Netgear or similar modem/router - should come with four ports and NAT, Port forwarding and DHCP is all handled by the router.
Best £100 you'll ever spend. Win ICS is nasty.