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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: Jaruzel on June 12, 2004, 12:36:16 PM
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Hi guys,
I've managed to secure a Bvision for my Amiga-in-a-Sparc-Box project, and as such am now back into Amigas (again...)
My problem is the bvision I have is missing the vga socket daughterboard connector thingy as seen here:
http://www.amigasuperbit.com/catalogindexsp/it020006.jpg
I've just got the bvision with a ribbon cable (and of course the BlizzPPC to connect it to)
Am I now stuck ? or is there a way to build or purchase the vga bit ? I'm good with a solding iron an can build most projects.
All help appreciated.
- Jaruzel
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Cmon guys, I'm really stuck here. :(
-Jar.
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Only thing I can think of is if someone has a dead BVis. I have no idea if those little bits of PCB are some standard piece of hardware or if it's a Phase5 specific invention (though it seems logical if it is).
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The connector sure doesn't look anything special here. Just an 10 pin IDC connector, sheilded ribbon cable going to a VGA connector.
Im sure there'll be a schematic online somewhere.
I do have a dead bvision - but unfortunately I don't have a spare ribbon (my working bvision is using it).
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Corrected number of pins ;-)
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Cheers Karlos - any chance of a close up pic of the vga connector board?
I've done the usual searches for bvision stuff (although not aminet yet) and haven't come up with anything useful.
I have a scan doubler board currently plugged into my DB23 which has a vga connector and that takes a ribbon from the scan doubler chip thats plugged onto the amiga mb, and I'm wondering if i can just feed the bvision ribbon into that ?
I'm seriously hoping i'm not up sh*t creek with this one. :(
-Jar.
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Aww, bugger - no camera, unfortunatley :-(
I can't see (looking at it) that there are any additional components on the VGA connector end, just the ribbon attaching to the VGA socket. So I guess the only trick is to make sure the correct pins in the VGA socket are matched up with the BVision connector end.
There must be a few people with dead bvisions (as already said) who can donate a cable...
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@Jaruzel
I'm getting a BVision one of the next days, so if you drop me a mail I can take some shots of it and send them to you.
Should be rather easy to make a schematic of the connector as well, but that might take some time.
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Hi Jaruzel
i have here the one of the CVPPC and it seems the same.
It is not so easy to built a new one.
It has 3 transistors (VGA part only) and theyrs capacitor, resistor for RGB analogic output all micro SMD.
Don't know how to help you.
Ciao
EDIT- yes it is the same of the CVPPC
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Framiga wrote:
Hi Jaruzel
i have here the one of the CVPPC and it seems the same.
It is not so easy to built a new one.
It has 3 transistors (VGA part only) and theyrs capacitor, resistor for RGB analogic output all micro SMD.
That's strange. There are no additional components of any kind on my BVision VGA connector that I can see.
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@ Karlos
so the above posted picture is wrong.
mhhh!!! BVision is DCE only?
EDIT- if the cable hasn't additional component, it isn't a great problem to make one.
No picture needed but only pins assignment.
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Framiga wrote:
@ Karlos
so the above posted picture is wrong.
Perhaps there are different revisions. I just opened my system and examined the cable. No components other than the cable connector on a tiny PCB that simply attaches it to the VGA on a backplane. Nothing else.
EDIT- if the cable hasn't additional component, it isn't a great problem to make one.
No picture needed but only pins assignment.
Pretty much what I was thinking ;-)
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Incidentally it's a 10-way IDC connector - not an 8-way one like I said earlier ;-)
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At least my Eyetech monitor switchers do use similar IDC10 to VGA adapters. So they must be quite common parts.
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@Jaruzel:
Here you have the pinout (http://home.foni.net/~thomas-joerg/hardhack.htm#H3).
Good luck!
/Patrik
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I have aBVisionPPC from P5 and one from DCE. The DCE one just ist a plain cable to VGAconnector adapter. The P5 one holds additional parts but has in opposition to the later DCE version a connector for an LCD shutter goggle. So I assume those additional resistors and capacitors are only need for this extra connector or just to improve outputquality (and DCE skipped them for cutting costs).
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I had a CVPPC and it was just a bable as well. I even had to make a
rplacement copy of it once. Just match up the leads and its all you
need.
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Wow! Thanks to everyone for their help!
I've taken a picture of my bvision:
http://www.jaruzel.com/images/misc/bvisionPPC_DCE.jpg
and I think I'm right in saying it's a DCE model - therefore all I need to work out is the pinout from ribbon cable to the VGA connector - which makes things a LOT easier :)
Cheers,
-Jar.