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Coffee House => Coffee House Boards => CH / Entertainment => Topic started by: KennyR on June 09, 2004, 12:20:17 AM
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UEFA has warned that the England football team will have action taken against them if the hooligan violence is repeated this tournament - including maybe even getting kicked out of Euro 2004. English hooligans have again and again damaged every major tournament with riots and violence. They're not the only ones to do this, and they represent only a minority of the fans, but they are still the worst, it's getting worse every year, and UEFA seem to be sick of it.
Should this really happen? We know hooligans are mindless and only there for the fight, but they're nationalist too. If England was kicked out, would it shock or shame them into reigning back their behaviour? If not, what other approaches could be used?
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It wont make an ounce of difference, in my opinion. If the hooligans choose to fight now they know the consequences and to be honest they're not going to Portugal to admire the architecture or to watch the football.
Strangely though it does seem to be a problem most attributed to English footballs fans (although the Turks aren't far behind), I wonder what it is that other countries do diiferently that deters this kind of behaviour.
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Maybe coming from the European mainland, and therefore having a slightly bigger potential genepool, they're not quite as inbred. :-)
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that_punk_guy wrote:
Maybe coming from the European mainland, and therefore having a slightly bigger potential genepool, they're not quite as inbred. :-)
Quite a naive view that is. here on the mainland, there IS inbred and a lot of it, and it's vicious, and I had to deal with 'em :pissed:
I would almost say they're an excuse for death penalty and slavery.
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What about Turkey and their fans? Nobody says Sh*t about them and how awfully they behave, why do people always pick on us brits?!
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Umm, somebody just did, second post in. You did read the thread before posting, right?
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Oops silly me. All I mean is I never heard any more about the violence between England and Turkey when we had a match, I heard a lot of talk about England being fined at the time, but none of Turkey...
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whenever i think of english hooligans, two things come to mind:
1.) Alien3 with the YY chromasome people, and the cool black minister dude going "i've got to teach my 'brothers' a lesson" and starts beating the {bleep} out of them
2.) English dudes holding a chair leg in one hand, a beer in the other, singing "Deutschland Deutschland úber alles", and the German Army rushing and and beating the {bleep} out of them with riot trunchouns...pour british souls... :-D
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Robert17 wrote:
What about Turkey and their fans? Nobody says Sh*t about them and how awfully they behave, why do people always pick on us brits?!
Well, not Brits, since Scotland have the best fan record of any team, and Wales and Northern Ireland aren't known for fan riots either. England has the worst record. Turks are bad too, but the English are worse.
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Hoya!
Muhahahahahahaha!
Another reason why I HATE football!
Play curling-no hooligans there!
Be funky
M A D
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@kenny
The Turks are MUCH worse than the English hooligans.
When was the last time you heard of an English hooligan stabbing an
innocent opposition supporter to death for no reason whatsover?
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mdma wrote:
When was the last time you heard of an English hooligan stabbing an innocent opposition supporter to death for no reason whatsover?
Quite a lot actually, but in domestic games.
England are the rowdiest of all the fans and cause the most damage to property. I fully expect they'll be doing it as I write this.
A few Turks can be murderous on occassion, but England fans are rowdy, always.
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When was the last time you heard of an English hooligan stabbing an innocent opposition supporter to death for no reason whatsover?
Why should someone going to a football match have a knife on them?
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@kenny
"Quite a lot actually, but in domestic games."
?????????????
When? Please show me some evidence of anyone being murdered at a
domestic English football game. Links would be best, as I really don't
believe it.
I am an avid football supporter and crowd violence isn't the problem
people seem to think it is. I haven't seen any at a domestic game in
years.
As for scotch fans being whiter than white. Ever been to an old firm
match? Celtic and Rangers hooligans are fcuking mental! You know all
about "ned's" kenny, and the majorty of their fans are neds. Need I
say any more?
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@mikeymike
Why indeed!
There is no reason for anyone to have a knife on them anywhere in
public, especially not a football match. Well, maybe a butcher on his
way to work! ;-)
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mdma wrote:
As for scotch fans being whiter than white. Ever been to an old firm match? Celtic and Rangers hooligans are fcuking mental! You know all about "ned's" kenny, and the majorty of their fans are neds. Need I say any more?
Rangers fans all support England, Celtic fans support Ireland. There isn't a Scotland supporter among them. Try again.
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@kenny
I'm still waiting for proof of a murder at an english domestic footbal
game. Ever.
As for the all rangers fans supporting England, thats bollox, and you
know it.
And we were talking about domestic game violence. There is a fight at
EVERY Celtic vs Rangers game.
Don't want to appear racist, but the stereotype of Glaswegians is of
and alocholic violent nationalist. No smoke without fire eh? ;-)
Just yesterday afternoon I was in blackpool with the missus and kids,
and there were several large groups of scottish men all wearing either
french football shirts or french flag painted on their face. ALL of
them challenging english people to a fight. Lillywhite eh?
For someone who is against nationalism kenny, you don't half jump at
any chance to bash the english and praise the scots.
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mdma wrote:
I'm still waiting for proof of a murder at an english domestic footbal game. Ever.
At the game? Never then of course, just during the drinking and fighting before and especially after the match. There haven't been so many murders, (one exception here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2563891.stm), but I'd like to know how much the NHS spends patching up drunken tossers who just take things too far every week.
As for the all rangers fans supporting England, thats bollox, and you know it.
Nope, Scotland's Celtic players mean that Scotland isn't a team that serious Rangers supporters will ever cheer for. I saw a good few England strips on today. And a many England flags, complete with red hand of ulster, can be seen at every Rangers match.
Don't want to appear racist, but the stereotype of Glaswegians is of and alocholic violent nationalist. No smoke without fire eh?
Well, all Brits are alcoholics, so no surprise there. And all football crowds are violent, ditto. As for nationalist, yes, but rarely nationalist for Scotland itself...
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Hum,
Rangers support england? very strange ( from thhe view point of here )... but then again, i havent seen/noticed a union jack flag ever flown here...
[i`ve a feeling that even the english, don`t like english (soccer)...]
:)
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Hoya!
I for one support Qatar.
They play for fun and they are peaceful.
Too bad it is impossible to get their t-shirt...
Be funky
M A D
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KennyR wrote:
Rangers fans all support England, Celtic fans support Ireland. There isn't a Scotland supporter among them. Try again.
I'm not a big footie fan, but I thought that was common knowledge.
The only violence in Scottish football is during old firm matches, which happen what... 4 times a year? There's rarely violence at the other matches (including the other derbys - Dundee and Edinburgh). It's always the old firm.
But when you look at the violence in England's footie world, you see violence at more than just derby matches. It happens every week.