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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: SKAN on June 08, 2004, 06:11:07 PM

Title: USB graphics card!!!
Post by: SKAN on June 08, 2004, 06:11:07 PM
Check this out!!!
http://nvplanet.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2551

This could be a nice solution for those who don't want to tower their Miggy and have hires trucolor gfx!!!
Title: Re: USB graphics card!!!
Post by: x56h34 on June 08, 2004, 06:12:40 PM
I've heard that these things, along with USB sound cards are terribly slow compared to PCI/AGP solutions.
Title: Re: USB graphics card!!!
Post by: MrZammler on June 08, 2004, 06:16:09 PM
I imagine that it would require high speed usb 2 ports, which none of the current zorro offerings (AFAIK) support.
Title: Re: USB graphics card!!!
Post by: that_punk_guy on June 08, 2004, 06:16:13 PM
There are some benefits with USB sound-cards, lower noise being the main one.

But in the main, I really don't understand the obsession with attaching everything to the USB...
Title: Re: USB graphics card!!!
Post by: cecilia on June 08, 2004, 06:26:32 PM
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that_punk_guy wrote:
But in the main, I really don't understand the obsession with attaching everything to the USB...
oh, come on! don't you like it when a girl says, "PLUG it in????"

 :lol:
Title: Re: USB graphics card!!!
Post by: that_punk_guy on June 08, 2004, 06:37:18 PM
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cecilia wrote:
oh, come on! don't you like it when a girl says, "PLUG it in????"

 :lol:


Universal Sodomy Bus?  :-?
Title: Re: USB graphics card!!!
Post by: bloodline on June 08, 2004, 06:39:13 PM
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that_punk_guy wrote:
There are some benefits with USB sound-cards, lower noise being the main one.

But in the main, I really don't understand the obsession with attaching everything to the USB...


It is the ultimate goal... to have a single universal connector for everything. Ok that will never happen, but with things like USB/Firewire we are getting close :-)
Title: Re: USB graphics card!!!
Post by: cecilia on June 08, 2004, 09:49:34 PM
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that_punk_guy wrote:
Universal Sodomy Bus?  :-?
OOOH! you ARE a sweet talker!  :lol:

actually, what I do like about USB is that you can unplug and replug without rebooting. something, as we know, not possible with SCSI!

And, I'll love it when AROS can be bootable from a USB thumbHD or whatever those things are called! that would be the ultimate portable amiga!!
WOOT!:banana:
Title: Re: USB graphics card!!!
Post by: that_punk_guy on June 08, 2004, 10:12:46 PM
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bloodline wrote:
It is the ultimate goal... to have a single universal connector for everything. Ok that will never happen, but with things like USB/Firewire we are getting close :-)


Everything, though? I certainly like the idea of interchangable peripherals but when it gets to the point where you're (hypothetically speaking for now) running a full-blown 3D card over a slow serial bus, I think it's over-complicating things in the name of simplicity.

And if you unplug everything... Where's the PC gone? ;-)

I do like hotplugging USB though, that's nice (and something I've begun to take for granted.)
Title: Re: USB graphics card!!!
Post by: Sparky on June 08, 2004, 11:06:31 PM
Well not to be picky but hotswapping SCSI devices has been possible for donkeys years ... come to think of it I beleive it's been in the specs since day one.

Regards
Title: Re: USB graphics card!!!
Post by: Dan on June 08, 2004, 11:13:53 PM
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that_punk_guy wrote:


And if you unplug everything... Where's the PC gone? ;-)

It would be like a www.gumstix.com  but better;-)

That would actually be cool a computer with only a processor,ram,bios and a USB host port.
Could turn into anything, pda, wearable, mp3-player,video-player, tabletpc, laptop, desktop. 8-)

But i cant see much use for this usb-graphiccard because there is already graphiccards that are pccard and even cfcards.
And it seems that they forgot video-out on this one, then what is the use for them???? :-?
Title: Re: USB graphics card!!!
Post by: weirdami on June 09, 2004, 12:00:02 AM
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what I do like about USB is that you can unplug and replug without rebooting


Just don't try it too many times on a windows machine or it'll reboot itself. Windows has lousy USB support.
Title: Re: USB graphics card!!!
Post by: Doobrey on June 09, 2004, 01:01:11 AM
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SKAN wrote:
This could be a nice solution for those who don't want to tower their Miggy and have hires trucolor gfx!!!


Sorry, but it won`t. For a start, there aren`t any Amiga drivers for it (and very doubtfull that they`ll release any info needed to write one)

The only USB adapter for non-towered Amigas is the Subway, which plugs into the clock port.
Dunno what the Subway transfer rate is, but its big brother the Highway can reach around 700-800 Kb/s...an 800x600 24bit screen takes up 1406Kb
 You`d be lucky to see more than one screen update every couple of seconds.. :-(
Title: Re: USB graphics card!!!
Post by: LP on June 09, 2004, 02:36:39 AM
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SKAN wrote:
Check this out!!!
http://nvplanet.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2551

This could be a nice solution for those who don't want to tower their Miggy and have hires trucolor gfx!!!


the link takes me to a IQ test.. -Which I have no intention of taking :)
:lol:

-Uuh and what have we here the USB tingy...

Looks nice though
Title: Re: USB graphics card!!!
Post by: B00tDisk on June 09, 2004, 03:15:02 AM
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Doobrey wrote:
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SKAN wrote:
This could be a nice solution for those who don't want to tower their Miggy and have hires trucolor gfx!!!


Sorry, but it won`t. For a start, there aren`t any Amiga drivers for it (and very doubtfull that they`ll release any info needed to write one)

The only USB adapter for non-towered Amigas is the Subway, which plugs into the clock port.
Dunno what the Subway transfer rate is, but its big brother the Highway can reach around 700-800 Kb/s...an 800x600 24bit screen takes up 1406Kb
 You`d be lucky to see more than one screen update every couple of seconds.. :-(


It'd be like running a VNC host, then opening a VNC View to the local host...!  :-o