Amiga.org
Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: melott on January 21, 2003, 02:54:33 PM
-
Hi..
I have a problem.. I have an A3000 Softkick machine.
I upgraded Workbench to 3.1 several years ago but
did not get a SuperKickstart disk with it. I am still
using the 2.04 file that came with the machine.
Does anyone have the A3000 -3.1 file?
I own the software so it shouldn't be illegal if
someone was to EMail it to me, or where can I
download it???
Mel Ott
:-?
-
Use Google.com (http://google.com)
-
Blimey as Paul said do a search there are shed loads of Kickstarts ready for download I would give you the URL from my site but I dont think Wayne would appreciate that :-D ;-) :-P
-
:lol:
-
Paul_Gadd wrote:
Use Google.com (http://amigos.amiga.hu/ancientoys/utils.html)
Nice link to a warez site m8
:-x :-x
:destroy:
-
Unfortunately, the physical 3.1 rom chip must be purchased in order to legally use wb3.1 with a ROM image. Also it won't do you much good if you own an AGA or A1000/500/600 Amiga with 3.1 roms as the ROMS differ for those machines than from the A3000.
Your best bet is to scour e-bay for used 3.1 roms, or check with your local Amiga dealer to see if they have any in stock. Price isn't that terrible at approx. $40 USD.
The illegal route that Paul_Gadd is coaxing you on may not work depending on which Amiga model the rom was grabbed from.
-
yo Google's great! i down loaded HD installes for many of my favorate games!
YO Zadoc,
you look like you could use some herbal refreshment..
may i suggest you take a massive bong hit?
-
YO Zadoc,
you look like you could use some herbal refreshment..
may i suggest you take a massive bong hit?
LOL...Never did care much for the stuff myself. I'll stick to my herbal tea if I want herbage and barley and hops if I want to refreshment. :-)
-
Hi...
I'm not sure you understand what I am saying.
The A3000 Softkick machines take a special
Kickstart. My machine CANNOT be booted up
without this Kickstart (SuperKickstart). When
it is first set-up the kickstart is copied from the
disk to the harddrive then it will boot from the HD.
My machine has NO burned-in rom. It does have
its advantages, I can boot from 1.3 or 2.04 just by
holding the mouse buttons on start up. I don't
beleave normal machines can do that without
a rom switcher. My machine came from
Commodore like this. Its an early A3000, before
they burned the roms for them.
So I beleave it is perfictly leagal for someone
to supply me with the kickstart file as I DO own
the software (perchased from Software Hut).
The Kickstart image from a rom chip won't
work. It has to be from an A3000 softkick.
There is some added code to make it reconize
the Harddrive, thats why just grabbing an image
from an A500 or A2000 or whatever will not work.
Mel Ott
:-x
-
Hm interesting, did C= also produce special softkicked SuperKickstarts of Kick 3.x? You sure AGA 3.1 kicks won't work?
-edit-
Is this file on aminet (http://ftp.uni-paderborn.de/aminet/aminet/util/misc/MakeSuperDisk.readme) of any help? :-?
-
Hmm...Zadoc doesn't like drugs, you do. Zadoc can spell and makes sense when he posts...you don't. Connection?
-
Thats the problem....
I am perty sure that grabbing the image from an aga machine won't work, as I said, the added code wouldn't be there. I hadn't realized this machine was
such a novelity when I bought it (new).
I pulled a program from Aminet by a guy in Germany
that will format the floppy and prep it for the
kickstart file, BUT I need the file, he didn't include
it. I guess he was correct in doing so. But that doesn't solve my problem. I don't see any legal
reason why I shouldn't have it, as I said, I do own
a legal copy of WB 3.1. When I bought it Software Hut
said they didn't have any copies of the Kickstart disk.
So as a result I beleave I didn't get everything I payed for.
Still NEED HELP
Mel Ott
:-(
-
@melott
Just use GOOGLE.
-
they should of thought about A3000(older one) users!
they could of put the kickstart image on the CD of AOS3.5/3.9, or perhaps the support site
i had a similar problem with the AmigaOS CD, they left out workbench.library!!!! and im an A4000T user!
:-(
-
Very strange, i certainly haven`t heard about your type of machine...
All the machines a far i was i`m awareall amigas had rom chips (500 and up)
Any photos of the MoBo?
-
Early A3000s where sold with a special kickstart roms (YES there is one!)
containing kickstart v1.4. These roms are ONLY usable with the A3000 AND Kickstart v1.3 or 2.0!
These type of roms looked for two harddisk partition labeled wb_1.3: and wb_2.x:,
and for a kickstart rom file in the devs: drawer corresponding to the choice you made
on the Boot Screen (v1.3 or v2.x), loaded the rom to ram: and softkicked the A3000 from it.
These rom images where on a SuperKickstart Disk that was part of the Software Kit delivered with the A3000.
Without these Disk, the only possibility to use such an A3000 is buying A3000 v3.1 roms chip and mouting it
in place of the onboard roms chips. But you will lose the possibility to boot v1.3:
Another question? ;-)
-
The first batch of A3000 had indeed both kickstartfiles on the harddisks. C= released the A3000
before AmigaOS 2.0 was ready and stable. So the roms installed were special Kickroms (Kickstart 1.4 with code to softkick from Hardisk).
AND the harddisksname has to match names to identify (AFAIK WB_1.3 + WB_2.0). We had such a A3000
at our anual Clubmeeting directly from C= Switzerland specialy
for presentation. BUT as we are all hackers we put everything apart and after puting back togehter everything
the beast didn't start as expected. Finaly we found out how to start back to normal
@melott
Contact me privatly and I give you some supporting things.
Markus
-
like this:
(http://www.commodore-amiga.de/pix/A3000_bootmenu.jpg)
-
WoW!...
:-D
-
;-)
-
Hey Melott,
You're not going to like this, but I have one of the 3000's that softkicked, and had 3.1 softkick for the 3000. Mention, had. Unfortunately, as I understood you had to have physical 3.1 roms to run OS3.9 I switched to physical roms and no longer have the 3.1 softkick rom. That said, at least you know you can switch to a 3.1 rom chip set, but of course, the ability to softboot into old versions of the OS is lost.
-
Thanks guys ... :-)
I got what I needed. A gentleman whom I let remain
nameless (although I'm sure it was legal) supplied
me with the correct file.
Anyway thanks
Mel Ott