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Title: New super-efficient MS Windows!
Post by: Holley on May 27, 2004, 03:04:25 PM
As Windows XP users will already be aware, they're using Windows version 5.1.  In huge technology leap Microsoft are now shipping an all-new Windows version thats fast, efficient, and fits on 5 double density disks - it's Windows version two-hundred and eighty six!

I've already got my copy, and it positively flies along on a 3GHz Pentium 4 ...

(http://homepage.ntlworld.com/katejames/windows.jpg)

:lol:
Title: Re: New super-efficient MS Windows!
Post by: Matt_H on May 27, 2004, 03:07:47 PM
They misspelled 'Windows' on their own disk label! :lol:
Title: Re: New super-efficient MS Windows!
Post by: sir_inferno on May 27, 2004, 04:31:15 PM
rotflmao  :lol:

although it actually says version 2.1  :-?
Title: Re: New super-efficient MS Windows!
Post by: Vincent on May 27, 2004, 10:05:32 PM
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sir_inferno wrote:
although it actually says version 2.1  :-?

Indeed it does, it's version 2.1 of Windows for a 286 machine.

Bet most of the guys here don't remember the 286's :-P

Still, I bet it really does fly along on a 3GHz P4 :lol:

And they said that WinXP was the fastest booting Windows :-P

:lol:
Title: Re: New super-efficient MS Windows!
Post by: bloodline on May 27, 2004, 10:36:09 PM
I found the 8 installation floppies for Windows 3.11 while cleaning out a cupboard at work, I tried installing it on my 3Ghz machine, it crashes shortly after the GUI opens up, the error says something about a problem with the memory.
Title: Re: New super-efficient MS Windows!
Post by: CaptainHIT on May 27, 2004, 10:39:11 PM
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Vincent wrote:

Indeed it does, it's version 2.1 of Windows for a 286 machine.

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Ah, good you told, or else i wouldn't notice.  :-P
Hehe, sorry for sarcasm, but i couldn't hold me back.  ;-)
Title: Re: New super-efficient MS Windows!
Post by: HopperJF on May 27, 2004, 10:41:03 PM
good old windows
Title: Re: New super-efficient MS Windows!
Post by: adz on May 27, 2004, 11:40:46 PM
I acually installed Win 3.1 on a Celeron 800, I didn't even see the splash screen, now that was a fast load. Come to think of it, I also installed 98 on a Celeron 450 with a 9GB U160 10K drive and I didn't even see the 98 splash screen.
Title: Re: New super-efficient MS Windows!
Post by: that_punk_guy on May 27, 2004, 11:47:42 PM
This was why I wanted to get an old version of Windows... and how everyone laughed at me. But now it's the cool thing to do! Pfft. :-(
Title: Re: New super-efficient MS Windows!
Post by: adolescent on May 27, 2004, 11:56:51 PM
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adz wrote:
Come to think of it, I also installed 98 on a Celeron 450 with a 9GB U160 10K drive and I didn't even see the 98 splash screen.


You must not see (or remember) very well. :-D  I've never seen a machine not show the 98 splash screen (unless configured to do so...) and I've seen it on much faster machines than a 450 Cellery...
Title: Re: New super-efficient MS Windows!
Post by: huronking on May 28, 2004, 12:43:44 AM
Believe it or not, I actually BOUGHT a copy of Win 2.1
to run on an A500/PCTask machine back in '93.

But the disk in the picture says "Presentation Manager"-

Isnt that what they called the gui in OS/2 before (and after) Microsoft left IBM at the altar?
Title: Re: New super-efficient MS Windows!
Post by: mikrucio on May 28, 2004, 01:54:28 AM
Windows sux. All versions

End of Story.


We shant speak of such things around here.

for we all know better.

regards
Title: Re: New super-efficient MS Windows!
Post by: iamaboringperson on May 28, 2004, 02:01:35 AM
I've always wanted to run an old version of MS-DOS a fast PIV machine. (windows 3.11, too)
Title: Re: New super-efficient MS Windows!
Post by: adz on May 28, 2004, 03:17:03 AM
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adolescent wrote:
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adz wrote:
Come to think of it, I also installed 98 on a Celeron 450 with a 9GB U160 10K drive and I didn't even see the 98 splash screen.


You must not see (or remember) very well. :-D  I've never seen a machine not show the 98 splash screen (unless configured to do so...) and I've seen it on much faster machines than a 450 Cellery...


Well, thats what happened, either that or it only appeared for a nanosecond...cause within about 2 seconds of it saying "Starting Windows 98" the 98 desktop came up...believe it or don't, it matters not to me.
Title: Re: New super-efficient MS Windows!
Post by: Tomas on May 28, 2004, 03:27:36 AM
I recall having windows 1.2 or something on my 8086 amstrad pc... Believe it or not, but it actually booted windows in a matter of seconds even on that hardware.. Paint and wordpad still looked exactly the same back then  :-D
Title: Re: New super-efficient MS Windows!
Post by: Holley on May 28, 2004, 10:02:03 PM
Well, theres 5 disks, the one pictured, two 'Utils' one 'Fonts' and one 'Apps and Write' - they all say 'Presentation Manager' on 'em.  I don't have a 286 to try it on ...

You should be able to use a manual Dos install of Win95 OSR2 (using the files from the 'Commands' directory) to use partitions over 2Gb, and Windows 3.11 should work ok on that (in theory).  The Win95 version of Emm386 should be able to handle large amounts of memory.
Title: Re: New super-efficient MS Windows!
Post by: HopperJF on May 28, 2004, 11:13:47 PM
im with u all the way on that!!
Title: Re: New super-efficient MS Windows!
Post by: Holley on May 29, 2004, 08:10:01 PM
One thing to point out - UAE won't run on Windows 3!  At that point the top Win95 driver enabled hardware, with a minimal install (20Mb is doable if you really strip it down), would fly and run UAE.

Nothing to stop you using a top new processor & MB, and just using older sound, video and network cards, make UAE the shell, and it's as close as you could get to a PC behaving like an Amiga ... have they done the Catweasel support for UAE yet?
Title: Re: New super-efficient MS Windows!
Post by: Van_M on May 30, 2004, 01:29:31 AM
I really think that putting win95 in a modern machine wouldn't be the best idea in the world. When the win95 kernel was written there was no DDR ram, the bios'es were quite primitive, the northbridges were more primitive, there was no AGP, ISA was a standard, the cpu was real CISC, etc. I'm sure (given that it even installs), it won't be the most stable machine in the universe...

--EDIT-- forgot to mention that Win95/98/Me was largely based on DOS, a 16 bit OS, and todays CPU's are 32/64 bit... that, on it's own doesn't sound good...
Title: Re: New super-efficient MS Windows!
Post by: Van_M on May 30, 2004, 01:33:20 AM
Best thing to do if you get yourself an archaic version of windows and wanna play with it, would be to get some Virtual Machine software (that can emulate a 386 or lower) and install it there.
Title: Re: New super-efficient MS Windows!
Post by: Morley on May 30, 2004, 02:17:45 AM
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Tomas wrote:
I recall having windows 1.2 or something on my 0086 amstrad pc... Believe it or not, but it actually booted windows in a matter of seconds even on that hardware.. Paint and wordpad still looked exactly the same back then  :-D


Ahem..  I just salvaged a 486DX2-66 pc from a dumpster at work this week. That thing was awfully slow in Win3.11, just loading a document into Wordperfect took 2-3 minutes.

That reminded me why I hate Micrsoft. :-P
Title: Re: New super-efficient MS Windows!
Post by: Vincent on May 30, 2004, 04:01:35 PM
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Morley wrote:
Ahem..  I just salvaged a 486DX2-66 pc from a dumpster at work this week. That thing was awfully slow in Win3.11, just loading a document into Wordperfect took 2-3 minutes.

That reminded me why I hate Micrsoft. :-P

:lol:
Title: Re: New super-efficient MS Windows!
Post by: Holley on May 30, 2004, 08:05:55 PM
If it was that slow there was a reason it was in that dumpster ;-) Windows 3 should work (as much as it ever will) at 25MHz.
Title: Re: New super-efficient MS Windows!
Post by: melott on May 30, 2004, 09:03:52 PM
 :-D Maybe I should get a copy of this 'NEW' 2.1 version
of Windows to run on my New 286 BridgeBoard. LOL

Hell .. it might actually run on the 286 board. :-P
Title: Re: New super-efficient MS Windows!
Post by: Holley on May 30, 2004, 09:59:36 PM
Thought Windows 3 ran on 286 bridgeboards?  It'll certainly run under PCx ... soooo slowly ... of course I can't think of a good reason to do that nowadays.  Was there a version of PCx for PPC?  It'd certainly be handy on an A1 if it could cope with Win95.

I wonder what happenned to the complete Siamese systems that got sold, that was the ultimate bridgeboard ... shame it worked back to front, lol.