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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: on January 17, 2003, 03:21:31 PM
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What do you think about an Amiga PPC laptop?
it's possible but, how much it cost?
I need a laptop for work and i would like an Amiga Laptop!
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If you need an Amiga laptop surely it would be useless for work?
If someone can persaude IBM to ressurect their PPC based Thinkpads ( last seen 1997 IIRC ) and someone steps up as reseller to license them for AmigaOS then it would cost the same as a normal laptop.
Alternatively the same for PowerBooks, no reason someone couldnt set up a license with Amiga to resell on Powerbooks in quantity with AmigaOS. If they have the capital and the business plan.
Possible, but not probable.
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Either you wait for the Eclipsis or for MorphOS for Apple computers.
I don't see any other possibility at the moment (except for using emulators on x86 notebooks), unless you find a way to fit the CPU-module and the graphics-board horizontally onto the micro-ATX Pegasos mainboard.
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@Senex
"Either you wait for the Eclipsis or for MorphOS for Apple computers."
Then they will be waiting a long time for the former and maybe forever for the latter. Just why would "Genesi" undermine their own Pegasos product by allowing people to buy MorphOS for Apple computers?
This "Eclipsis" is just vapour, at least the Pegasos exists here & now.
If the guy/gal needs it for work they will have probably got to get it within the next few weeks anyway so this is academic. It is going to be an x86/AMD based laptop.
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At least its been said already several times that MOS on Mac would be planned. And since the big gap in price between Macs and Pegasos, I don't see any risk for Genesi to do so. I rather see several people interested in MacOS who'll choose the cheaper Pegasos instead of Apple's hardware once it has been adapted by someone for it (or right now already using MOL).
Regarding the Eclipsis: of course it isn't here yet, but that there's no (PPC-based) Amiga-notebook-solution right now has been certainly clear to the original poster.
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"least its been said already several times that MOS on Mac would be planned"
Not is planned then?
That is like saying I will think about thinking about it. :-P
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I hate _desktop_ computers and will continue to do so for as long as I live in this small apartment :)
If someone would throw out an amiga laptop, make a deal with ibm, or 'port' os4 for ibooks/powerbooks I would be very happy and promise the guy(s) a beer. I would rather pay 1k pounds for an ibook with os4 than 1k pounds for an up-to-date a1 with new hardware. I am much committed to little laptops I can play with while travelling.
And that I can easily move around at home. I hate sitting with my computer at one place for days...
Most would probably rather want a desktop computer that is easy and cheap to upgrade, though, so I guess I will have to get one of those too. Not that that is bad, it is just not...mobile.
Sincerely,
-Kenneth Straarup.
PS: I do actually spend days at the same place with my amiga. I would not dream of moving that big, heavy a4k anywhere :-)
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You'll be able to easily get a lapttop Amiga computer for the price of an ordinary laptop, and with maybe even cooler features.
Just wait till transmeta CPUs run PPC software. It's not emulation it's same as native!!!
This would could also be true for 68k, though it's likely that will never happen. PPC on the other hand is expected, and was promised somime ago.
That would be cool.
Then all is needed is for Hyperion to writte the correspondent HAL drivers :-D
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Do any of you remember a company in Virginia that came up with a way of making laptops out of A4000, 3000, 2000 ect.? I recall seeing a demo of the thing and the one thing that made the price so high ($1800) was the screen. Back then the screen was $1500 itself. Today with the BIG drop in laptop screen cost, this might be a way to do it. Of course, it wasn't really a laptop but more like a portable computer. Still, if someone come up with an intergrated MB like a PowerBook G4 and had the needed dongle(sp) it could work. You could probably build a portable with the new boards if they have intergrated video, audio, mouse and keyboard ports. Not being a hardware guru, I could be off base.
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probably Silent Paw productions, no? They were pretty huge 'laptops', though.
I think the best option at present (now that amithlon is probably dead) is to use Winblows with Amiga Forever on an x86, unfortunately. If you have enough ram on the machine, AF runs great, the slowdown is usually due to winblows' (over)use of RAM.
for example, I used AF 5.0 on my win2K laptop with 128mb RAM, pretty slow but when I bumped it up to 384mb ram, VERY fast.
kevin orme
amiga university
www.amigau.com
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i would certainly be interested in purchacing an 'amiga' notebook!!
ppc based...
AOS 4....
whoooo!!!
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A lot of people would be interested in an Amiga/MorphOS laptop. I think some sort of portable could be constructed using the mini-atx used by the Pegasos, but I haven't done the research to *really* know.
However, I wouldn't put anything past the resellers building something as close as they can ;-)
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By the time you get a Powerbook (like the one I'm typing this on) you'll soon forget about the Amiga.
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I suppose fiting a lcd display on a A1200 would not do the trick?
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strobe stated:
By the time you get a Powerbook (like the one I'm typing this on) you'll soon forget about the Amiga.
;-) Maybe you would. I own an Apple Powerbook myself, and I would like nothing better than to be able to run Amiga OS on it. (Natively, of course. Mac UAE is only so-so.)
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Not sure if ArtisiaS is suitable for laptop, but...
After AOS4 is in mature state...
Someone could try to make a deal with apple about some powerbooks to be sold with the Amiga license.
Other option is to build a laptop around embedded chips... ~500Mhz few hundred milliwatt 440GP should be ok with AOS4...
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I think some sort of portable could be constructed using the mini-atx used by the Pegasos,
YUCK! too big!
i would want somthing sleek and sexy a bit like(IMHO) the older G3 powerbooks!
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Mouser wrote:
I suppose fiting a lcd display on a A1200 would not do the trick?
it would probably work, but YUCK!!
i want somthing that IS a notebook computer, not one that just does the job of one
it must look the part!
:-)
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NIce thread , a good idea...
but i think..
1. Would be to expensive to even think of (using G3/4)
(look at the Mac laptops)
2. Someone said "use it with what" , thats my wuestion also, as atm there aint much PPC stuff out, but yes i agree..LATER!!
I think that this is a good idea, running Aos4 on a ppc laptopand i guess it would appeal to many in a later stage.
but i wont pay 3x times the price of an A1 for a laptop, not unless its great!
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There is a company that make high end SPARC based UNIX laptops: Tadpole. Perhaps they will be interested in manufacturing PowerPC laptop for running Linux, AmigaOS and MacOS.
Tadpole (http://hw.tadpole.com/html/)
Problems:
1. Is G3 or G4 suitable for Laptops? What about power, size and thermal problems?
2. Is there any PowerPC chipset suitable for laptops?
3. What about the video display chip for LCD?
4. WHO will buy such product? What is the size of the market?
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There are already PPC laptops. "PowerBook" and "iBook" should ring a bell. :)
Drop the hardware distributor license requirement nonsense, port AmigaOS to a few PB/iB models, and sell shrinkwrapped copies of AmigaOS. Problem solved.
Maybe some third-party vendor would even like to sell licensed Mac/AmigaOS bundles, if so, great. But that's unlikely to happen and nothing to expect or depend upon. And the rest of the Mac market, including the second-hand one, shouldn't be removed as an option for AmigaOS users.
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by strobe on 2003/1/17 19:05:06
By the time you get a Powerbook (like the one I'm typing this on) you'll soon forget about the Amiga.
wait a minute! what about you, strobe?
by the way, why the paper bag?
does your avatar suggest something you dont want revealed? possibly something shameful? (a M$ tattoo or are you just a disturbing sight in general) :-x :-x :-x :-x 8-) 8-) 8-)
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asian1 wrote:
There is a company that make high end SPARC based UNIX laptops: Tadpole. Perhaps they will be interested in manufacturing PowerPC laptop for running Linux, AmigaOS and MacOS.
Tadpole (http://hw.tadpole.com/html/)
Problems:
1. Is G3 or G4 suitable for Laptops? What about power, size and thermal problems?
2. Is there any PowerPC chipset suitable for laptops?
3. What about the video display chip for LCD?
4. WHO will buy such product? What is the size of the market?
1. yes!! the macintosh powerbooks use them! and there was an ibm rs/6000 notebook once!!
2.yep
3.just the display chips used in the above, it doesnt matter you can use display hardware for x86
4. I will buy such a product! the number of people who will buy it will be low, but i would pay quite a bit for an actual amiga PowerPC notebook! if it is good enough
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just visited that tadpole site!
thats quite good! id consider buying one of those!!!!
:-D
now if only it came in ppc flavour....
or if amigaos/morphos/aros was available for SPARC
but SOLARIS is ok... i just wouldnt use CDE, id probably use KDE or somthing instead!!!
infact solaris is good, verry good