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Operating System Specific Discussions => Amiga OS => Amiga OS -- Development => Topic started by: iCreate on October 26, 2002, 03:45:03 AM
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Can anyone suggest the best C/C++ development tool for classic Amigas? SAS C, Aztec C, others? Also have there been any RAD tools for Amiga like Glade for Gnome? Anything like this expected for AmigaOne/OS 4?
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Hey welcome to Amiga.org iCreate... it's good to see some Mac folk joining in with the Amigans :-D
I'll let the Amiga veterans answer your question!
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I think you should use GCC 2.95.3 :-D
Try to look at this topic:
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=84 (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=84)
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Buy the Amiga Developer CD 2.1 . It comes with a freebie version of Storm C++ that works ok. This will insure that you have the include file headers for AmigaOS 3.5 .
Don't waste your time with Aztec C it has been dead for ages. SAS C is fine for ANSI C but doesn't do very good C++.
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SAS/C was a compiler I was first messing with when I attempted to make an Amiga program. I just knew how to make some text keep printing across the screen. Talk about a lame coder I am. I dont want to take the time to study cause I got other things in mind. My wish would have been to programs for Amiga and several of them too.,,, ;-)
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If you want to code in C++, I wouldn't recommend StormC3 (that is included on the DevCD), as it's support for C++ is very limited.
The best development environment for the Amiga right now, is IMO StormC 4, which uses a modified GCC compiler with very good support for both C and C++.
But, if you don't want to spend a lot of money getting started, I would go for GCC 2.95.3 as someone else suggested.
The DevCD is definately worth buying too, so you get the correct system include files and some documentation...
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as said DevCD2.1 has all you need for amigaos
plus a C compiler StormC3 which is very good (but not perfect) if you wand RAD for applications you can use
Emperor which is RAD-like interface for stormc
making very easy the creation of windows gadgets etc
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Buy the Amiga Developer CD 2.1 . It comes with a freebie version of Storm C++ that works ok. This will insure that you have the include file headers for AmigaOS 3.5 .
One might also consider using GoldED Studio AIX. The editor integrates nicely with SAS/C, StormC, vbcc and GNU gcc. The latter two are free compilers and are included on the GoldED CD. OS3.9 headers are included as well. You'll have your integrated development environment ready with a few mouse clicks. Features include syntax highlighting, online help for functions, programs to set compiler options, point-and-click make etc. A trial version is available on http://golded.dietmar-eilert.de
If you need a somewhat usable source level debugger and do not insist on C++, try to locate a used SAS/C package. If C++ is a requirement, StormC seems to be the only option.
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C++
1. StormC 4 is a fully functional C++ compiler based on GCC. It also has an STL implementation. It is somewhat expensive.
2. The GNU Compiler is free on aminet but a mess to configure and is very slow. However, if you need C++ and don't have the cash for StormC 4, then this is really your only option.
C
1. SAS/C is considered by many to be the best C compiler for the Amiga. Ithas an editor called SE, but SE is not really easy to use. It is very UN*X like and is a dream to use even on the command line. The latest version is 6.58. It is not sold new anymore so you will need to find it second hand.
2. HiSoft C++ has what I consider the best IDE for the Amiga. Its C++ implementation is old so I'd only use it for ANSI C coding. Understanding the compiler message are a bit difficult sometimes, but it is possible to make some good software with this setup. No printed documentation, but decent electronic help.
3. vbcc is a little C compiler that is free and easy to use. You will need to get the Dev CD to use any amiga libraries though. No IDE.
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Dietmar wrote:
One might also consider using GoldED Studio AIX. The editor integrates nicely with SAS/C, StormC, vbcc and GNU gcc. The latter two are free compilers and are included on the GoldED CD. OS3.9 headers are included as well. You'll have your integrated development environment ready with a few mouse clicks. Features include syntax highlighting, online help for functions, programs to set compiler options, point-and-click make etc. A trial version is available on http://golded.dietmar-eilert.de
Is this site working anymore?
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Freeware Project-Manager do-dad is on the aminet for SAS (last I heard the developer wanted to add support for GCC)
Storm4, has StormWizard (but I've never used it) which is RAD in it's concept.
If you are thinking of VisualBasic type dev-kits, StormWizard is the closest thing I know of.
Personally, I find that the single most used developer application for the Amiga that I use is GoldEd Studio. It's basically a text editor, but GoldED puts IPC to great use by having modules for Storm, SAS, GCC, Web-Browsers, ARexx, Installer--even PHP ;-)
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