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Title: Seti ( not Settee )
Post by: blobrana on May 17, 2004, 05:06:25 PM
Hum,
just a bump up for Amiga SETI@Home (http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/stats/team/team_181273.html) , and a reminder that anyone can join (no aliens though)...






Blog for Today:
Seti score 666 in 6606 hours....
Title: Re: Seti ( not Settee )
Post by: whabang on May 17, 2004, 05:28:45 PM
What? Aliens can't participate? That's discrimination! :-D
Title: Re: Seti ( not Settee )
Post by: blobrana on May 17, 2004, 08:21:32 PM
Hum,

@whabang,
if we were to let them join then that would prove that they existed:
And then we wouldn`t have to run seti on our machines, or have a seti thread about the amiga effort to find them...

Where`s the fun in that, huh?




[ every journey starts with a small letter `j`, (er, not everyone) ]
Title: Re: Seti ( not Settee )
Post by: cecilia on May 18, 2004, 03:16:33 AM
are you kidding???
if aliens were found THAT would be just the reason to start communicating in a BIG way!
it would spur a fevered investigation like we've never seen!

people would be connecting their cel phones to talk to an alien! :lol:

the only people that would be upset would be the religious nuts.
Title: Re: Seti ( not Settee )
Post by: bloodline on May 18, 2004, 09:41:38 AM
Quote

cecilia wrote:

the only people that would be upset would be the religious nuts.



The Word "nuts" is superfluous in that sentence.
Title: Re: Seti ( not Settee )
Post by: blobrana on May 18, 2004, 10:17:13 AM
@bloodline
hUM,
Very observant....it`s a bit like saying an orchestra of musicians,

(it should be a string of musicians...)
(or like a belt of teachers...)
(or a murder of crows)

(or a pod of aliens...)
Title: Re: Seti ( not Settee )
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on May 18, 2004, 01:25:43 PM
Quote

bloodline wrote:
Quote

cecilia wrote:

the only people that would be upset would be the religious nuts.



The Word "nuts" is superfluous in that sentence.
Naah. There are sane religious, and they wouldn't be upset at all. But they'd be nonetheless be included in this sentence and that isn't fair.
Title: Re: Seti ( not Settee )
Post by: cecilia on May 18, 2004, 07:38:57 PM
Quote
Naah. There are sane religious, and they wouldn't be upset at all. But they'd be nonetheless be included in this sentence and that isn't fair.
true enough. i know a FEW sane people who icorporate spirituality into their lives and I personally am offended that bas.tards like Falwell take the term "religious" and act like it belongs to them.

it's really them who I am refering to. I mean, their version of "religious". we should invent a new name and let the good people take back the old term.
Title: Re: Seti ( not Settee )
Post by: that_punk_guy on May 18, 2004, 07:57:00 PM
Quote
Dictionary.com wrote:
1. (a) Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.
1. (b) A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.
2. The life or condition of a person in a religious order.
3. A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader.
4. A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.


I have several of #4 :-D
Title: Re: Seti ( not Settee )
Post by: KennyR on May 18, 2004, 10:12:13 PM
Shouldn't SETI be in the religion and philosophy section?





(Kidding)
Title: Re: Settee ( not Seti )
Post by: sumner7 on May 19, 2004, 11:55:20 AM
The title says it all... this would belong in the furniture section if amiga.org had one...
Title: Re: Settee ( not Seti )
Post by: blobrana on May 19, 2004, 10:35:33 PM
Hum,
that sounds like a good idea...

A random forum that popup/changes every month - bras & pants section, cryogenic section , transplant section, transporter room...the possibilities are endless...
;)



[on the left hand side of this site , under Main Menu > Other Places?]



Title: Re: Settee ( not Seti )
Post by: cecilia on May 20, 2004, 02:32:36 AM
you know the guys are going to spend all their time in the  bras & panties section!

except, of course those republicans. :lol:
Title: Re: Settee ( not Seti )
Post by: sumner7 on May 20, 2004, 02:31:38 PM
Quote

cecilia wrote:
you know the guys are going to spend all their time in the  bras & panties section!

except, of course those republicans. :lol:


I would spend a lot of time in there, certainly.  :-D
Title: Re: Settee ( not Seti )
Post by: blobrana on May 21, 2004, 07:23:56 PM
Happy birthday seti@home!

[From /. ]
     "Five years ago today, SETI@home launched a comprehensive program to search for Extra Terrestrial life in the universe, using millions of home computers to help compile useful data that could some day lead to the discovery of advanced extra terrestrial life. Since inception, SETI@home has found 2,568 persistent Gaussians, possible radio transmissions from a distant planet. SETI began in 1960 with the efforts of Cornell University astronomer Frank Drake, whose Project Ozma became the first modern SETI experiment in history."
[/From /. ]

Now where`s the drinks section? :pint:
Title: Re: BOINC ( not Seti )
Post by: blobrana on June 23, 2004, 11:39:07 PM
Hum

The team at SETI@Home have released their new client software based on the BOINC (Berkeley Open Infrastructure for Network Computing) software platform.

[Hum, shame it wasn`t BOING]

"This new platform  promises transparent version upgrades, more efficient work unit distribution, and the ability to seamlessly integrate other distributed computing projects that are also using the BOINC standard. For now, SETI@Home is allowing both the Classic and BOINC clients to run, but eventually they will shut down the Classic data server and force everyone to upgrade. You can read  more about the transition here (http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/transition.php). ”




[BTW, happy birthday, Quake]

Title: Re: BOINC ( not Seti )
Post by: Dalamar on June 24, 2004, 12:10:06 AM
Hmph!  That's a whole lot of clients I'm going to need to upgrade then.  Arg....
Title: Re: BOINC ( not Seti )
Post by: blobrana on July 18, 2004, 07:26:39 PM
Hum,
Are you getting the following error message and the seti program quits?

Unknown Fatal Error : 1

Don`t worry too much, it looks like it`s a problem with their site interface...
Title: Re: BOINC ( not Seti )
Post by: graffias79 on July 19, 2004, 05:53:02 PM
Same problem here, I read on their site that they were updating the software client at some point as well.  Haven't checked that out yet, though.

-Jamie
Title: Re: BOINC ( not Seti )
Post by: blobrana on July 19, 2004, 11:48:27 PM
Hum,
that`s Seti back online now!

i`ve downloaded BOINC as well...
It can`t be run at the same time as seti, but it looks like a simple transafer process...activate acount and input your new ID number...(giving http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ as the URL)...

Looks good...

 :-)
Title: Re: BOINC ( not Seti )
Post by: blobrana on August 27, 2004, 04:10:58 PM
Hum,
i`ve just completed 1000 Seti@home (http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/stats/team/team_181273.html)  units...

I can now download, my `You are a super person` certificate (http://setiathome2.ssl.berkeley.edu/fcgi-bin/fcgi?email=blobrana%40yahoo.com&cmd=user_stats_new)...

Title: Re: BOINC ( not Seti )
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on September 02, 2004, 08:11:51 PM
@Blobrana
with the new thread considering the possible discovery of extra-terrestial life, this thread cought my eye again, and especially the word "settee" in the title. What does that word mean if I may ask?
Title: Re: BOINC ( not Seti )
Post by: X-ray on September 02, 2004, 09:50:06 PM
(May I be so bold as to answer for the esteemed Blobzie)


@ Toy Boy: a settee is a furniture item, like what you would have in a lounge room. It is a seat for two or three people, usually watching TV.
Title: Re: BOINC ( not Seti )
Post by: Karlos on September 02, 2004, 11:01:39 PM
Also known as a couch, or a sofa ;-)
Title: Re: BOINC ( not Seti )
Post by: blobrana on September 02, 2004, 11:51:21 PM
Hum,
the inner encoded  meaning (apparent to any advanced sentient  being )is of course, `get up and do it...`

Settee/Couch is a metaphor for `relaxing and doing nothing`;
And Seti is an allegory for, er, `doing the work`...

;)
Title: Re: BOINC ( not Seti )
Post by: X-ray on September 03, 2004, 07:48:57 AM
@ Blobzie

You mean a single word, in the title of a thread, is a metaphor? No phrase, no nothing?

Damn, woman, you're good!!

I've clearly got a lot to learn, so please be patient with me.
Title: Re: BOINC ( not Seti )
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on September 03, 2004, 04:37:26 PM
@Blobrana,

Ach zo,
Yes, I've seen more often ambiguous postings and certain usage of metaphores from you.. I like 'em :lol:

Quote

(apparent to any advanced sentient  being )


Wiz a goud eunderstaending of ze Engliz laguasj zat is...
Title: Re: BOINC ( not Seti )
Post by: JaXanim on September 03, 2004, 07:07:51 PM
I'm surprised this hasn't been mentioned (or maybe it has...?)

'New Scientist' magazine reports that a radio signal noticed on three occasions is the best candidate yet for an ET message.

The signal comes from a point between PISCES AND Aries and has been observed for a total of about 60 seconds only, not enough time for a full analysis. However, it's unlikely to be radio interference or noise and it doesn't look like any known astronomical object.

Some people theorise that it could be a glitch in the Arecibo telescope, or simply an unknown astronomical phenomenon. SETI workers though, think it could be ET.

The signal has been named SHGbo2+14a and has a rapidly fluctuating frequency around 1420 MHz. This is one of the main Hydrogen emission frequencies and would be a 'logical frequency for aliens to announce their presence'.

Sorry if this is old news, but it appeared in yesterday's Yorkshire Post, one of the best regional newspapers in the UK.

Cheers,

JaX

Title: Re: BOINC ( not Seti )
Post by: Cyberus on September 03, 2004, 07:32:28 PM
Are SETI units transferrable?
I've got a load from when I was at Uni...

SEE HERE (http://setiathome2.ssl.berkeley.edu/fcgi-bin/fcgi?email=cerberus_500%40yahoo.co.uk&cmd=user_stats_new)
Title: Re: BOINC ( not Seti )
Post by: blobrana on September 03, 2004, 11:26:19 PM

@Cyberus
>>transferrable

Yes , just plug youself in here. (http://setiathome2.ssl.berkeley.edu/fcgi-bin/fcgi?cmd=team_join_form&id=181273)
Title: Re: Seti ( not Settee )
Post by: asian1 on September 04, 2004, 04:28:59 PM
>Alien Sette

Hello
In Asia, SATE or SAUTE is a popular dish / food from beef/chicken (prepared with sauce and bamboo skewer).

I guess if Alien REALLY land in Asia, someone will have a SATE party. :-)

The 1977 "WOW!" mysterious Signal on early SETI project remain unsolved.

In 1993, when US Gov't pull the plug on NASA Seti project:

Quoth Senator Bryan of Nevada: "The Great Martian Chase may finally come to an end. As of today millions have been spent and we have yet to bag a single little green fellow. Not a single Martian has said take me to your leader, and not a single flying saucer has applied for FAA approval."

There is a fake DORE report about SETI signal from Stars called "Pegasus".

http://www.remoteviewing.com/remote-viewing-projects/dore-signal/

Perhaps in the future SETI can use portable client programs (based on AmigaDE) or use a massive GRID of Peg. III boards connected with Infiniband.
Title: Re: Seti ( not Settee )
Post by: JaXanim on September 04, 2004, 09:50:35 PM
I'll get me coat.

JaX
Title: Re: BOINC ( not Seti )
Post by: Cyberus on September 05, 2004, 09:03:00 AM
Quote

blobrana wrote:

@Cyberus
>>transferrable

Yes , just plug youself in here. (http://setiathome2.ssl.berkeley.edu/fcgi-bin/fcgi?cmd=team_join_form&id=181273)


Hi,
I did that.
But I don't show up
on the list.
Do I have to wait
for the next 'update'
before I can assist?
Title: Re: BOINC ( not Seti )
Post by: Cymric on September 05, 2004, 08:04:58 PM
Quote
JaXanim wrote:
'New Scientist' magazine reports that a radio signal noticed on three occasions is the best candidate yet for an ET message.

There has been a rebuttal from the SETI-at-Home people themselves that this signal is in fact extremely unlikely to have an intelligent extraterrestial origin. See this link (http://planetary.org/news/2004/seti_signal_0902.html) for a further explanation.

(Quite frankly, I find the SETI-business a load of crap. I wish people would do something sensible with their spare CPU-cycles, like analysing molecular structures of potential cures against scourges in the Third World. However, that is just my opinion. Happy computing, everyone.)
Title: Re: BOINC ( not Seti )
Post by: X-ray on September 05, 2004, 08:11:44 PM
Oooooh, Cym, you may have just put yourself in line for a few free tickets to a load of 'hums' (and/or the wrath) of Blobzie  ;)
Title: Re: BOINC ( not Seti )
Post by: blobrana on September 06, 2004, 12:31:08 AM
Hum,

 Cymric`s (when he does) posts are quite well respected...





-------------------------------------------------
As with all science, a negative result is important as well
Title: Re: BOINC ( not Seti )
Post by: PMC on September 06, 2004, 10:40:20 AM
Just a dumb question (surprise, surprise from me):

If your PC happens to be the the one that finds THE signal when happily crunching away, do you think SETI would tell you?

Would you then be presented with an "I found ET" certificate?
Title: Re: BOINC ( not Seti )
Post by: PMC on September 06, 2004, 10:44:29 AM
Quote

Cymric wrote:

(Quite frankly, I find the SETI-business a load of crap. I wish people would do something sensible with their spare CPU-cycles, like analysing molecular structures of potential cures against scourges in the Third World. However, that is just my opinion. Happy computing, everyone.)


Cymric

I personally don't agree that SETI is a waste of time, but I do agree that we should ALL be using our spare CPU capacity to be doing something useful.  I think one of the Cancer charities has a SETI-like number cruncher - can anyone confirm?

With so many corporae mainframe systems etc seemingly doing little apart from housekeeping outside office hours it would be nice to see everyone running SETI-alike progs.  It's not as if the extra CPU time used is going to break the bank....
Title: Re: BOINC ( not Seti )
Post by: Cyberus on September 06, 2004, 10:55:53 AM
@PMS

Yeah there is a cancer one - I thought of switching to that at one stage.
Title: Re: Seti ( not Settee )
Post by: Dandy on September 07, 2004, 12:10:55 PM
Quote

blobrana wrote:
Hum,
just a bump up for Amiga SETI@Home (http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/stats/team/team_181273.html) , and a reminder that anyone can join (no aliens though)...
...

Hmmmmmm - last time I visited that page ther were no SETI clients available for Amiga - neither 68k, nor PPC!

Only way to participate seems to be to run SETI on a (X86-)PC.
But what's the point then joining the Amiga SETI project?
:huh:
Or did I miss something?

Aside from that:

I wanted to join SETI at Amiga.org.
I was asked to enter my "Email address of your SETI@home account" and "Your SETI@home web site password".

But how can I already have an "SETI@home account" or an "SETI@home web site password", if I'm just about to join?

:-?:-?:-?:-?:-?:-?

IMO it's a stupid idea to require data (only available when you already *ARE* a member) on an "Join" form ...

   :smack:  :whack:  
Title: Re: Seti ( not Settee )
Post by: whabang on September 07, 2004, 01:07:50 PM
You join using the client itself. Then you can join the group.
Title: Re: Seti ( not Settee )
Post by: Dandy on September 07, 2004, 01:17:13 PM
Quote

whabang wrote:
You join using the client itself. Then you can join the group.

If there still *IS* *NO* Amiga client - how can I use it to join any group?

I mean - I really would like to join, but to buy an x86PC just to run SETI appears to be a little bit too expensive to me...
Title: Re: Seti ( not Settee )
Post by: whabang on September 07, 2004, 01:33:58 PM
Ironically, there would be no use to join unless you have an x86-machine. :-(
Title: Re: Seti ( not Settee )
Post by: Dandy on September 07, 2004, 01:54:01 PM
Quote

whabang wrote:
Ironically, there would be no use to join unless you have an x86-machine. :-(

So you are saying there still is *NO* Amiga client?
Title: Re: Seti ( not Settee )
Post by: whabang on September 07, 2004, 02:01:30 PM
Jep!
Title: Re: Seti ( not Settee )
Post by: blobrana on September 07, 2004, 06:14:03 PM
@Danny
hum,
So what, if you did join and processed no units ?
It's  the thought that  counts...


There are a lot of PCs  running WinUAE ...


Title: Re: Seti ( not Settee )
Post by: Vincent on January 03, 2005, 04:27:13 PM
I finally got round to reading up about SETI, so I decided to join :-)

Currently been running the prog itself for 20 mins, but I'll be switching it to screensaver mode later on, then running the proper thingy again tonight.

I'm surprised that I can use the Vincent monicker on there without having to add the usual AC part :-D
Title: Re: Seti ( not Settee )
Post by: on January 03, 2005, 07:31:04 PM
I prefer to put my spare CPU cycles to use for something more worthwhile than finding Aliens.

Cancer Research (http://www.grid.org/projects/cancer/)

Especially as I smoke 20 a day.
Title: Re: Seti ( not Settee )
Post by: X-ray on January 03, 2005, 07:36:32 PM
Then what you should do is take the money you would have spent on smokes, donate it to Seti, and forget about the cancer research. You will have solved both in one smooth move  :-P
Title: Re: Seti ( not Settee )
Post by: on January 03, 2005, 09:52:21 PM
Quote

X-ray wrote:
Then what you should do is take the money you would have spent on smokes, donate it to Seti, and forget about the cancer research. You will have solved both in one smooth move  :-P


Nah, because the £4 pounds in tax that I pay every time I buy a pack of 20, pays for the cancer care i'll need many times over! :-P

-edit

I should start a "Start smoking to pay for the NHS" campaign.  I might even get an EU grant!! ;-)
Title: Re: Seti ( not Settee )
Post by: blobrana on January 29, 2006, 10:01:32 PM
:bump:

Do  you want to sign up?

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/team Amiga (http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/team_display.php?teamid=33303)

They're doing their part. Are you?
Join up, and save the world. Service guarantees citizenship.
Title: Re: Seti ( not Settee )
Post by: Vincent on January 30, 2006, 01:20:43 PM
I'm doing my part.
Title: Re: Seti ( not Settee )
Post by: whabang on January 30, 2006, 09:59:44 PM
Another "Starship troopers"-quote? :lol: