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The "Not Quite Amiga but still computer related category" => Alternative Operating Systems => Topic started by: Jettah on May 13, 2004, 11:15:37 AM
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Hi,
Allright, allright. Yes, I do have a Windowsbox. Yes, and I'm using it on a rather frequent and prolonged base.
The good thing about it, is that I've recently changed from Internet Explorer (oh, horror of horrors) to Opera. Anyone still using IE? Go for Opera! As fast as you can! When you don't mind advertisements popping up every now and then, it is free. Otherwise pay a very modest 26Euri or come to that. A very good investment in something otherwise rather sick.
The main reason is: it is very, very fast! You'll be surprised, just like I was and still am.
But IE did something very funny the other day. Whenever I set it up to open up to my favourite site, i.e. case www.amiga.org, it simply reinstalls another default site, some homeportal thing. Something, I found out, is simply overwriting that hopeless registry thing for that particular key!
Anyone any idea about what to look for?
Second, it keeps rejecting a setup for Google-search facilities. Instead it keeps producing a MySearch-bar no matter howmuch, howmany, howoften I change the settings.
Again, anyone any idea?
AdWare 6.0 and NAV-2004 both updated to the latest standard give no solution.
Regards,
Tjitte
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For the IE prob give CWShredder a go:
http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/files/CWShredder.exe (http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/files/CWShredder.exe)
Apparently Ad-Aware, Spybot S&D and HijackThis can't always find the offending registry entry for these search bars.
It's worth a go and it's free!
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The Opera, the Opera, we all like the Opera!
Urgh, Opera sucks.
As to the browser Opera, I've used it once and heard other people say good things about it, but I'm a Mozilla devotee myself. I don't not use IE simply because its M$, just cos it sucks, IMHO of course :-)
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I'm am Opera (the browser) fan - using it right now at work.
Just thgought I'd mention that adverts don't 'pop-up' on you, there's just a small banner in the toolbar that displays ads. I don't even notice it now.
'Tis very fast. I keep meaning to try mozilla as well.
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Opera is Fan-freakin'-Tastic!
I never use IE.
in fact in my ZoneAlarm settings I have IE FORBIDDEN (red [color=FF0000]X[/color]) to have internet access.
I don't notice the "ads", and it's very fast, has these great mouse gestures, sessions, tabs, the list goes on.
basically, anything that is not that piece of cr$p IE is good to use.
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cecilia wrote:
I don't notice the "ads"
Ads? What ads?
*me takes a long look around Opera
Oh there they are, up in the right corner! :-P
Opera rules! :-D
I could never go back to IE now, no tabbed browsing, no sessions, no customisable toolbar in almost any way you want, need a seperate (usually crap) pop-up blocker.....
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I could never go back to IE now, no tabbed browsing, no sessions, no customisable toolbar in almost any way you want, need a seperate (usually crap) pop-up blocker.....
Don't forget the fantasic cookie and password management!
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I used to love opera but i now mainly use mozilla firefox its even better than opera and does not crash, a lot of plugins can be downloaded to get it how you want it without being full of rubbish you dont want,password manegement in mozzila is even better than opera .
has these great mouse gestures, sessions, tabs, the list goes on.
I have all them and more with mozzilla.
i have a custom search bar with all search engines and sites i use even ebay, plus an rss reader a briliant adbloker a dictionry search just type dict in adress bar and word after it to search dictionary.com and plugins to reload page at diffrent timed interverls.
another good browser wich can be used on sites meant for ie only is avant .
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my Opera doesn't crash, but the really important point to to NEVER use IE.
and mozilla is fine, everything is fine. I have a friend who still is using and updating Netscape.
I think you can use tabs in Netscape but he never does...but then he's not a gui guy. he's an IT, nerd-type. learned on UNIX and Likes to type :lol:
When I watch him work, I remind him he doesn't multitask!
:lol: :lol:
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bah, my Opera installation started to crash :-(
have to use IE
I think it's time to reinstall windows
Also, Opera + Trillian + middle mouse button makes Opera crash a bit.
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Ah yes, how could I forget the lovely Ctrl-Enter :-D
Netscape does indeed have tabs.
Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
Also, Opera + Trillian + middle mouse button makes Opera crash a bit.
Funny that, I do that regularly and have Winamp, GetRight and occasionally PSP and Photoshop running at the same time and Opera's usually fine :-)
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Camino is the best browser I have ever used, and I use it all the time. Stable as hell, functional and loads all web pages i've tried.
http://img53.photobucket.com/albums/v162/Mike_5DOS/FreeSnap002.jpg (http://img53.photobucket.com/albums/v162/Mike_5DOS/FreeSnap002.jpg)
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Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
bah, my Opera installation started to crash :-(
have to use IE
I think it's time to reinstall windows
that may be a good idea. After I had made my laptop mutiboot and reinstalled Windows, I started using Opera and I try very hard to keep my windows as clean as possible. I'm sure that's the main reason I have had no problems in the last year and a half.
Don't use IE. it will only bring in more cr&p.
STOP THE MADNESS.
get a clean install of windows, use the most stable Opera (7.23), use ZoneAlarm and Away you go! :lol:
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Tried Opera for a little while around 6.0, didn't really like it..
Now I use Mozilla Fire.. err, Lightningfrog :-D
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Yeah, I love Opera too. I am stunned how 7.50beta can be even faster. I tried Mozilla (which is great too) for a while and went back to Opera after about a day because of all the little considerations that Opera has in the interaction side of things.
For example, in Opera closing a tab returns you to the PARENT tab, in Mozilla (version I tried) you go to the next tab TO THE LEFT on the bar meaning you have to navigate and select the parent one (EVERY time). In Opera you can open in same window, open in new window etc. all from a right-click, and mouse gestures are great, you can navigate and hardly ever move the mouse. Mozilla was nice but too many two or three click actions, or right-across-page navigations that were faster in Opera.
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For example, in Opera closing a tab returns you to the PARENT tab, in Mozilla (version I tried) you go to the next tab TO THE LEFT on the bar meaning you have to navigate and select the parent one (EVERY time).
Actually, this is incorrect, at least for the newer versions of Firefox. If you close a tab, you go to the tab immediately RIGHT of the one you closed. (in other words, in most cases, you will advance to the next tab you opened.) If there are no tabs on the right, you'll move one to the left. (which will usually be the parent tab.)
To me, this makes great browsing sense. For example... Say I'm looking for a small tidbit of info in large site map. I find two links I think may lead to what I want. I open each in a tab. I flip to the first tab... not what I wanted -- close it. Advances one tab right. I'm brought to the other link I had opened. Ooops, doesn't contain the info I want, either. Close it, and since no more tabs are open right of it, Firefox moves back one tab left, and I'm back at the parent page, after having run out of branches. It's pretty rare that I find myself battling tabs, or getting moved where I don't want to go. And, even if you do, a quick click or mouse gesture, and things are back in order. Oh, yeah, mouse gestures are cool. ;-)
I much prefer Mozilla over anything else I've used. (To be fair, it's been a few versions back since I last used Opera, but Firefox has been so perfect, I don't want to use anything else.)
A neat hint for disabling ALL Internet Explorer connections, and confusing lots of ad-ware enabled programs. Set your IE proxy settings to 127.0.0.1. This way, your computer tries to use itself as a proxy, and fails, thinking your internet connection is down. This eliminates the possibility of something using IE components (rather than IE, itself) to connect. (Most decent firewalls should catch this act, but I've seen it sneak through some. Certain versions of Zone Alarm, for one...)
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Actually, this is incorrect, at least for the newer versions of Firefox. If you close a tab, you go to the tab immediately RIGHT of the one you closed. (in other words, in most cases, you will advance to the next tab you opened.) If there are no tabs on the right, you'll move one to the left. (which will usually be the parent tab.)
Yeah, you're correct, I still find it a PITA though as I usually have multiple tabs open, meaning there are some in between a page with a link on it and the one that the link generates.
I haven't tried FireFox, I'll certainly give it a look when it gets to 1.0 if not before.
If you haven't used Opera since 6.nn or similar I'd certainly give 7.23 or the 7.50beta a look though.
Mozilla/Firefox/Opera - all better than IE (AKA "Aieeeee!!" as in "Aieeeee!! More spyware!")
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Yeah, Opera rocks.
The reason I use it as my main browser is that it saves pages and pictures so much faster than Netscape(dunno if thats speeded up in more recent mozilla versions haven´t tried them yet).
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I tried Opera a long time ago, loved it big time but somehow lost track of it... maybe the machine itself went away, but right now I'm using mozilla suite and like it a bunch for all of the above reasons...I have, however been thinking about trying Opera again...maybe I will. At one point someone was going to port it to Amiga OS but I guess like so many things it never happened. Doesn't matter anymore for me because I can't seem to get any of my Amigas to break thru our router into the cable modem....no one has been able to help me out either. sigh. And me too dumb to figger it out myself. rats. Forces me to use the freakin' Windoze box my sweety-pie wife insists we have. (Just because sometimes she has to work from the house...big deal...I hate Windoze for all the right reasons) :pissed:
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I just uploaded Opera 7.50 and it sucks once again, just like the last time they upgraded it. It refuses to allow me to log into amiga.org no matter what I do to the 'wand' or the security settings. I even turned off the firewall, just in case...
Version 7.23 worked fine, and I wish now that I had left it alone, as this happened last time I upgraded from 6.0. I wouldn't be so PO's but I supported them and bought the registration, but it appears that they use the same 'user beta testing' policies as Micro-you-know-who...
Anyone else have problems with this?
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jjans wrote:
I just uploaded Opera 7.50 and it sucks once again, just like the last time they upgraded it. It refuses to allow me to log into amiga.org no matter what I do to the 'wand' or the security settings. I even turned off the firewall, just in case...
I've been using Opera since 7.13 (I think) and I've never had any real problems with it except for the [more...] link on here spewing out |> instead of the smilies.
Never had a log in problem.
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Opera is bloated, never liked it for that, as for the ads just crack it or buy it depending on your morals, I couldn't be doing with text adverts in my browser. Why you'd bother when there are good open source soloutions I don't know, Firefox does the job here.
I've seen Opera in action on one of those p900 phones, now thats a different matter, it doesn't seem bloated at all.
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lorddef wrote:
Opera is bloated, never liked it for that
!!!!???? Bloated? 3.5mb for a full featured web browser, mailer, news reader and irc client? Thats bloated?! ??
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last night I downloaded Opera 7.5, installed it and just now I am logged in and posting with absolutely no problems. The "geting used to" phase is disconcerting though. I guess I am too used to Mozilla. ON the other hand though, like the first time I tried it out oh so many years ago I am flabberghasted at how fast the sucker is! Very nice. I absolutely despise IE. Nasty sucky browser. ON that cheery note, lets hit the submit button and see what happens!
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Will-i-am wrote:
The geting used to" phase is disconcerting though. I guess I am too used to Mozilla. ON the other hand though, like the first time I tried it out oh so many years ago I am flabberghasted at how fast the sucker is! Very nice. I absolutely despise IE. Nasty sucky browser. ON that cheery note, lets hit the submit button and see what happens!
Good to see you're pleasantly surprised :-D
You'll get used to it pretty quick, the firsty wee while it's a good idea to customize the toolbars to give you everything you want :-)
And now we all know Submit works ;-)