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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: whabang on May 06, 2004, 07:21:25 PM

Title: Mini-server
Post by: whabang on May 06, 2004, 07:21:25 PM
I want something like this (http://www.itx.com.tw/product/Mini-ITX/lv650/lv650.htm), but with a built-in ADSL-modem. Does anyone know if such a sollution exists?
Title: Re: Mini-server
Post by: RobinC on May 06, 2004, 07:48:02 PM
Afaik there are no mobo's with built-in adsl modems, however you can get pci adsl modems, and pci right-andle connectors (quite often included with that style of board). The other alternative is an ethernet (or usb) modem which could fit in the 5.25" bay - that's what I'm looking at for a smoothwall box atm, as my ethernet adsl modem is a very nice snug fit in a 5.25" bay, and I can externally connect up a cd drive when installing (and close the case afterwards).

Robin
Title: Re: Mini-server
Post by: Floid on May 06, 2004, 09:31:40 PM
While DSL is becoming more standardized (down to a 'few' competing specs, for current-generation equipment, enough to allow implementing in one box... but look out, the next generation is already on the horizon), it's still a little 'bulky' to implement; no idea how many chips it actually takes, but there're analog components and other things to worry about, all of which nibble board space.

Whatever your application, it's generally 'safest' to use a separate ethernet bridge ("DSL Modem"), since the costs are generally the same, and support for various aspects of the PCI and USB devices is non-deterministic in many operating systems.

Something like a Homeportal 1000 (http://2wire.com/home/hp_index.html) (or HW, I guess is their latest modem-integral model) is always cute, but that's a fair bit of engineering, and they have the benefit of dealing directly with the chipset vendors (and Wind River on the software end, apparently), versus a 'normal human' trying to use Linux or BSD ("be happy if it works at all"), or Windows, where any flakiness to 'rare' hardware's drivers may be easily masked-by or blamed-upon the flakiness of the OS itself.
Title: Re: Mini-server
Post by: adz on May 07, 2004, 06:15:41 AM
Too bad that thing doesn't have PCI, looks like an ideal little squid box.
Title: Re: Mini-server
Post by: whabang on May 07, 2004, 09:15:01 AM
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adz wrote:
Too bad that thing doesn't have PCI, looks like an ideal little squid box.

I'm still considering that one, actually. I want to build up a small router/firewall/web server/e-mail server/proxy server/FTP-server for home use. Preferably wireless, as I've started to make plans for a wireless network at home.

As it has a Geode CPU, it's probably a very low power- and heat board.

Too bad it has an ISA port instead of a PCI port, though. :-(