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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: TimO on January 10, 2003, 09:52:53 AM

Title: A1200 as keyboard????
Post by: TimO on January 10, 2003, 09:52:53 AM
People, can someone tell me, if I take out my A1200 motherboard to put it in a tower case so I can expand it, can I wire it up so that the A1200 is the keyboard (and perhaps floppy drive?) of the tower unit? I don't want to lose that classic design from my desk!
Title: Re: A1200 as keyboard????
Post by: Karlos on January 10, 2003, 10:13:21 AM
I can recall a (good) few years ago, Micronik did just that, so its definately possible.

I may be wrong, but I think there were some docs on aminet under hard/hack..

However, as a standard A1200 keyboard has the rollover bug, are you sure this is what you really want? There are a plethora of PC->amiga key adapters for this job, and you can get a PC keyboard for under a tenner, go cordless etc.

Of course, you lose the amiga keys in favour of Windoze (urgh) ones, so I appreciate any reticence to adopt this route  :-)
Title: Re: A1200 as keyboard????
Post by: Meldon on January 10, 2003, 10:53:42 AM
What the topic first led me to think of was the "dream" I have. To actually use my 1200 as a keyboard for my 4000. The worlds first keyboard with a 320 MB HD and 8 MB RAM. :-) Would be possible using a parallell cable and two tiny programs, I guess...

Cheers!
Title: Re: A1200 as keyboard????
Post by: TimO on January 10, 2003, 11:01:11 AM
You could use Ventriloquist over Envoy!! and the file sharing services of Envoy would let you use the floppy disk. use a Liana parallel cable (think I have one somewhere...)
Title: Re: A1200 as keyboard????
Post by: Piru on January 10, 2003, 11:34:35 AM
You can. I did exactly that with my A1200 custom built tower.

I used the keyboard MPU circuit board from a A500 keyboard, and hacked that to my A1200 keyboard. Then I wired the keyboard signals directly to the A1200 motherboard (mobo kayboard hack (http://batman.jypoly.fi/~saku/lehti/online/33/osastot/sekalaiset/kuvat/nappis.gif)), +5V and GND are taken from the floppy connector.

Here are some pics of the finished keyboard:
keyb_back_s.jpg (http://www.iki.fi/sintonen/tmp/keyb_back_s.jpg)
keyb_back_circuit_s.jpg (http://www.iki.fi/sintonen/tmp/keyb_back_circuit_s.jpg)
keyb_front_1_s.jpg (http://www.iki.fi/sintonen/tmp/keyb_front_1_s.jpg)

"TimO" sounds like a finnish name to me (sorry if I am mistaken), anyway, if you are a finn, check this  article (in finnish) (http://batman.jypoly.fi/~saku/lehti/online/33/osastot/sekalaiset/torni.html) I wrote to SAKU (http://saku.amigafin.org/) about my tower hack.
Title: Re: A1200 as keyboard????
Post by: bloodline on January 10, 2003, 11:43:10 AM
On a slightly different note... does anyone know how to interface an Amiga Keyboard with a PC (I have my reasons). Due to the face that the Amiga has it's controler chip on the Mobo rather than as part of the keyboard , I have thought about getting a Microcontroler (a PIC based BasicStamp or similar) and programming it to turn the Amiga Keyboard key presses into PC serial or PS/2 signals....

Any thoughts?
Title: Re: A1200 as keyboard????
Post by: bloodline on January 11, 2003, 02:19:48 PM
I guess no one has any ideas then :-D
Title: Re: A1200 as keyboard????
Post by: odin on January 11, 2003, 02:33:20 PM
Actually I have the above mentioned Micronik A1200 keyboard case with included PIC right here.

You're welcome to pay for the postage and have it =). Although if you happen to have an spare IDE harddrive lying about I'd be happy to relieve you of that :-D.

BTW I offered (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=91) offered this housing a few months ago but then nobody wanted it...
Title: Re: A1200 as keyboard????
Post by: xeron on January 11, 2003, 02:41:08 PM
Quote
On a slightly different note... does anyone know how to interface an Amiga Keyboard with a PC

The Catweastle MkIII flipper has a connector for Amiga 2000/4000 keyboards. AFAIK it has the PS/2 form (A4000), but A2000 keyboards can be used with a cheap DIN->PS/2 adaptor.
Title: Re: A1200 as keyboard????
Post by: odin on January 11, 2003, 03:01:56 PM
@tickly:

Would that also allow the usage of A2k/4k keyboards on an A1200?
Title: Re: A1200 as keyboard????
Post by: vortexau on January 12, 2003, 03:38:20 PM
essential MS[/i] keyboard (http://shotgun.shacknet.nu:81/new_microsoft_keyboard.jpg)
Title: Re: A1200 as keyboard????
Post by: Paulie85 on May 17, 2013, 04:45:00 PM
Sorry to resurrect an old thread but I was wondering if this method could be used to use an A500 as a keyboard for an x1000? It seems envoy is available for OS4 but is it compatible with a system running 3.1?
Title: Re: A1200 as keyboard????
Post by: carvedeye on May 17, 2013, 09:36:26 PM
Quote from: Piru;8230
You can. I did exactly that with my A1200 custom built tower.

I used the keyboard MPU circuit board from a A500 keyboard, and hacked that to my A1200 keyboard. Then I wired the keyboard signals directly to the A1200 motherboard (mobo kayboard hack (http://batman.jypoly.fi/~saku/lehti/online/33/osastot/sekalaiset/kuvat/nappis.gif)), +5V and GND are taken from the floppy connector.

Here are some pics of the finished keyboard:
keyb_back_s.jpg (http://www.iki.fi/sintonen/tmp/keyb_back_s.jpg)
keyb_back_circuit_s.jpg (http://www.iki.fi/sintonen/tmp/keyb_back_circuit_s.jpg)
keyb_front_1_s.jpg (http://www.iki.fi/sintonen/tmp/keyb_front_1_s.jpg)

"TimO" sounds like a finnish name to me (sorry if I am mistaken), anyway, if you are a finn, check this  article (in finnish) (http://batman.jypoly.fi/~saku/lehti/online/33/osastot/sekalaiset/torni.html) I wrote to SAKU (http://saku.amigafin.org/) about my tower hack.


That's a pretty sweet hack there great job
Title: Re: A1200 as keyboard????
Post by: carvedeye on May 17, 2013, 09:38:42 PM
Quote from: odin;8386
Actually I have the above mentioned Micronik A1200 keyboard case with included PIC right here.

You're welcome to pay for the postage and have it =). Although if you happen to have an spare IDE harddrive lying about I'd be happy to relieve you of that :-D.

BTW I offered (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=91) offered this housing a few months ago but then nobody wanted it...


If you still have this I will take it off your hands and pay the postage :)
Title: Re: A1200 as keyboard????
Post by: Mrs Beanbag on May 17, 2013, 10:00:43 PM
Quote from: Piru;8230
You can. I did exactly that with my A1200 custom built tower.
Nice work!
Title: Re: A1200 as keyboard????
Post by: A6000 on May 17, 2013, 10:20:00 PM
Quote from: carvedeye;735355
If you still have this I will take it off your hands and pay the postage :)


I think if after 9 years he still has it, then he's probably decided to keep it.
Title: Re: A1200 as keyboard????
Post by: odin on May 17, 2013, 11:11:41 PM
Heh, as a matter of fact I ditched all my Amiga gear when I emigrated last December. I sold everything to 'kees' (no relation to the A.org Kees/NoMaam) over at amigascene.nl. You might want to try and contact him if he's willing to sell/give you the Micronik keyboard housing.

( http://www.amigascene.nl/userinfo.php?uid=766 )