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Title: What happens when machines die?
Post by: bloodline on April 22, 2004, 12:18:25 PM
A fantastic article about self aware machines developed by systematicly damaging neural networks until they are dead.


Machines that think (http://www.pivot.net/~jpierce/machine%20that%20invents.htm)


Noise is the key to creativity... 'All men go to good earth in one eternal silent night'
Title: Re: What happens when machines die?
Post by: T_Bone on April 22, 2004, 12:48:39 PM
I don't know, I think it's BS.
Our AI tech sucks.
Title: Re: What happens when machines die?
Post by: Vincent on April 22, 2004, 01:01:41 PM
They go to Silicon Heaven of course! :-P
Title: Re: What happens when machines die?
Post by: blobrana on April 22, 2004, 01:05:06 PM
>>they go to Silicon Heaven

Er, or Hello world...

Hum,
the best thing about that article was the running man gif...
very tasty...

(http://www.pivot.net/~jpierce/images/Golden_Man_running.gif)
Title: Re: What happens when machines die?
Post by: odin on April 22, 2004, 01:13:06 PM
:huh:

That article speaks about AI as if it's already been realised.

:-?
Title: Re: What happens when machines die?
Post by: bloodline on April 22, 2004, 01:18:46 PM
Tsh! Skeptics... :-(
Title: Re: What happens when machines die?
Post by: T_Bone on April 23, 2004, 01:35:34 AM
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odin wrote:
:huh:

That article speaks about AI as if it's already been realised.

:-?


Yep. 99% Hype. 1% BS
Title: Re: What happens when machines die?
Post by: asian1 on April 23, 2004, 06:15:16 AM
>Machine Dies

Hello
In principle, a machine will NEVER die, because it is possible to replace spareparts. Even my old IBM PC (1981) still works, after CPU, chipset and RAM replacement.

In "Exploration" TV show, there is a prediction that within 50 years, there will be brain transplant on bionic, long lasting body (Cyborg/Android). Today there are several artificial body parts (legs, arms, heart etc).
In the future it is also possible to create replacement of body parts using advance cloning technology.
Title: Re: What happens when machines die?
Post by: Vincent on April 23, 2004, 01:00:45 PM
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asian1 wrote:

In principle, a machine will NEVER die, because it is possible to replace spareparts. Even my old IBM PC (1981) still works, after CPU, chipset and RAM replacement.

Yes, but you are slowly decommissioning it.  When you have replaced everything except the HD, you have effectively taken out the storage part of the brain and put it in something else.  If you then add a new HD, then you are copying the brain storage into a new machine.

Even if you kept the same CD drives you are only transplanting them onto the new machine.

We have a new PC - new case, mobo, ram, hd and gfx card.  We have the same sound card, hd (to boot from), cd-rw, cd-rom, and monitor.  To you, this would just be an upgrade, but to us it's a whole new machine with the best of the old grafted on :-)

/me stops talking about computers as if they were human :-P
Title: Re: What happens when machines die?
Post by: Karlos on April 23, 2004, 03:19:50 PM
What beats me about this is what such an alleged breakthrough in AI technology is doing reported on this site, instead of all the leading technology sites.

To me it's either a hoax, bull, hype or a mix of them all. Has anybody looked up any of the patents that are supposedly created by this thing?

-edit-

Anyway, answering the topic title, in my experience they often cough out a wisp of acrid blue smoke :-D
Title: Re: What happens when machines die?
Post by: bloodline on April 23, 2004, 04:23:42 PM
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Anyway, answering the topic title, in my experience they often cough out a wisp of acrid blue smoke


Blue Acrid somke... don't talk to me about Blue acrid smoke... I've got a brain the size of a planet...
Title: Re: What happens when machines die?
Post by: Vincent on April 23, 2004, 05:30:28 PM
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bloodline wrote:

... I've got a brain the size of a planet...

And your mind is still always in the gutter :-P
Title: Re: What happens when machines die?
Post by: blobrana on April 23, 2004, 08:22:40 PM
Hum,
i think bloodline was pretending to be Marvin from the hitch-hickers guide ...
look no hands! (http://uk.newsbot.msn.com/ni/9W/646D=O(K40)!@_ZF(%5D=T9G_NPhoto.jpg)



@Karlos
>>  breakthrough in AI technology is doing reported on this site...

The mars methane life signs was first reported here...This site kicks (out the best news ;)
Title: Re: What happens when machines die?
Post by: bloodline on April 23, 2004, 08:35:43 PM
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blobrana wrote:
Hum,
i think bloodline was pretending to be Marvin from the hitch-hickers guide ...


If anyone was going to get obsecure SI-FI reference... I guess it was blobby :-)