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Coffee House => Coffee House Boards => CH / General => Topic started by: iamaboringperson on April 21, 2004, 07:18:21 AM
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From what I found on the front page of this site: (http://www.intuitionbase.com/)
Since the launch of this site on Sunday afternoon my life has been hell. I have spent the past 2 days being subject to a DoS attack aswell as being sacked from amiga.org
Wayne has publically stated I was mutually sacked but I can assure you that is not the case.
Wayne felt this site was a conflict of interest with amiga.org, and that I should of spent an hour adding the "redundant" information into a simple FAQ on the site. I offered to resign if he felt so strongly, the next thing I know I was barred from the admin email list and my moderator privallages revoked... yet my moderator tag remained.
So this morning (Tuesday 21st April) I asked wayne to remove my tag if i was indeed sacked, which he has done. And has gone on to write a rather inaccurate account of why I left (I was sacked!)
Not to fear though, IntuitionBase isnt going anywhere, I just need a few days to get over this ordeal and pick myself up.
Needless to say I am very disappointed about the way certain individuals have treated me, all I want to do is put back into the community...
I find all of this hard to believe!
What's going on? :-(
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I don't see why this is a big deal?
Running a site, even just being a moderator requries a lot of time, I would doubt very much that Ryu would have time to run both sites.
I personally think it's the right thing to do. It seems a bit weird to have the owner of a polarised site to be moderating on a community site.
That would be like haveing a Rightwing neonazi website owner moderating on a Liberal comunity site (That is just an extreme example).
Had Ryu just been a moderator rather than the site owner I would not have expected him to loose his position here.
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@bloodline:
You're not getting it are you? Ryu didn't resign of his own free will. The time issue you keep mentioning is irrelevant in this case
And wtf is polarized about intuitionbase. It's supposed to be a collection of info about OS4 as far as I can tell. Nothing political about it....
And to what's going on? Nothing special, just certain persons being their usual selves.
Oh sod it....must shut my mouth before I really get angry. :pissed:
I'm betting this will get locked sooner than later...
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odin wrote:
@bloodline:
You're not getting it are you? Ryu didn't resign of his own free will. The time issue you keep mentioning is irrelevant in this case
And wtf is polarized about intuitionbase. It's supposed to be a collection of info about OS4 as far as I can tell. Nothing political about it....
And to what's going on? Nothing special, just certain persons being selfrighteous pricks as usual.
Oh sod it....must shut my mouth before I really get angry. :pissed:
Don't be so hard on yourself! You're not a self rightous prick!!! (I love your avatar by the way, where is it from?) It's ok we all get a bit angry sometimes :-)
Things happen, the world keeps turning. I think Ryu's site is very good, very well designed, and great presentation. But it is not a comunity site, it's a site to cover Ryu's views, and that's fine, it's good to have this. Go to his site and enjoy it, as I have done.
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It sounds to be the same as Targhan and morphzone, except in that case Targhan resigned himself.
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Hum,
So the average `mileage` of a site like A.org is about
3 moderators per year ?
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blobrana wrote:
Hum,
So the average `mileage` of a site like A.org is about
3 moderators per year ?
That sounds high... but if you really think about it, it's only 0.0000001 per second.
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bloodline wrote:
blobrana wrote:
Hum,
So the average `mileage` of a site like A.org is about
3 moderators per year ?
That sounds high... but if you really think about it, it's only 0.0000001 per second.
We should probably convert that to SI units.
ok, I shall assume that one moderator is 63kg, then three moderators are 189kg...
Then Amiga org is currently operating at 0.0000060 kg per second.
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Warface wrote:
It sounds to be the same as Targhan and morphzone, except in that case Targhan resigned himself.
And one more tiny bit of difference. There were no angry masses of evil pegasos users protesting against Ryu running his AmigaONE/OS4 site, while Targhan fairly had his share of attacks...
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bloodline wrote:
But it is not a comunity site, it's a site to cover Ryu's views, and that's fine, it's good to have this. Go to his site and enjoy it, as I have done.
I'm sorry but I really resent that. It is a community site, okay it might only be aimed at a subset, but then Amiga.org caters to the whole community as does ANN. The site was only ever conceived because there is a need for it. Sure, you personally might not need, there might be a 1000 or so peg users that'll never need nor care about it, but the need is there all the same.
There is no policital agenda involved, Ryu is not an employee of any of the Amiga related companies, he isn't affliated with Hyperion or Eyetech. The site is a pure information site (part of it's value is to provide un-bias information about those systems).
Here's a quick question for you. Had you been chosen for Moderator, would you of given up being a key member of AROS?
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IntuitionBase.com would not of affected the ammount of time and commitment I put into amiga.org. It only takes about half an hour a day to check over intbase and I dont see the ammount of time needed to do that is going to esculate anytime soon.
Also IntuitionBase.com is an infromation resource site, it is not a community portal so there is no conflict.
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Here's a quick question for you. Had you been chosen for Moderator, would you of given up being a key member of AROS?
I'm not a Moderator, possibly for that very reason. I do own an AROS site, not used much anymore, but I do plan to keep it alive, as it always has a workign verison of AROS on it.
When A.org was looking for moderators, I said I would be happy to moderate the AROS section, but I didn't think it was right for me to modererate the rest or the site due to the fact I DO OWN AN AROS SITE.
-Edit- For what it's worth I do think Ryu was a good Moderator, it's a hard job. I also think Ryu's new site is good too, I look forward to seeing it grow.
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MMmmmkaaaaaaayyy. :-?
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When A.org was looking for moderators, I said I would be happy to moderate the AROS section, but I didn't think it was right for me to modererate the rest or the site due to the fact I DO OWN AN AROS SITE.
Off topic, but one of the points we try to cover when hiring moderators is to try and achieve a reasonable balance of MorphOS/AmigaOS/AROS/other users.
This site is here for Amiga-compatible platform users. We can't do that very well if we don't have fair representation in the ranks. One example/reason for that is this: I try to be as even-handed as possible, but as my interest is inclined more towards AmigaOS, comments that irritate me are more likely to be anti-AmigaOS than anything else. Other factors include the balance of content and focus on the site, for example.
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bloodline wrote:
Here's a quick question for you. Had you been chosen for Moderator, would you of given up being a key member of AROS?
I'm not a Moderator, possibly for that very reason. I do own an AROS site, not used much anymore, but I do plan to keep it alive, as it always has a workign verison of AROS on it.
When A.org was looking for moderators, I said I would be happy to moderate the AROS section, but I didn't think it was right for me to modererate the rest or the site due to the fact I DO OWN AN AROS SITE.
Actually I think it would have been worse for you to have only moderated the AROS section (what if someone slagged off AROS bigtime?). But then again I know from your forum posts, and personal email, that you're a good bloke (although maybe a little obsessive ;-)), and I personally wouldn't of objected to you being a moderator (Full or just AROS). I'm just trying to follow your line of thinking here.
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Actually I think it would have been worse for you to have only moderated the AROS section (what if someone slagged off AROS bigtime?). But then again I know from your forum posts, and personal email, that you're a good bloke (although maybe a little obsessive ), and I personally wouldn't of objected to you being a moderator (Full or just AROS). I'm just trying to follow your line of thinking here.
my intention was only to keep thread in the AROS section on topic. But you are right it would have been a bad and the A.org crew made the right decision to go for Ryu.
Obsessive? arn't we all? :-)
Being a Moderator is really hard... I'm still trying to figure out what the hell the xoops admin stuff does on ae.org... Fortunately Argo has been a great help.
To be honest with Wayne comming back, I was wondering when the staff was going to be cut back. too many cooks and all that...
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Oh sod it....must shut my mouth before I really get angry.
Naah i wouldn't get worked up if i were you. There are 2 sides to any story, and we don't have any info from either side really. Sh't happens and feelings get hurt all around, that doesn't mean anyone is an ogre.
Hopefully Ryu's site will do well and he will stick around AO.
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Red's right; every coin has two sides...
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whabang wrote:
Red's right; every coin has two sides...
Every coin has more than two sides. Otherwise it would be 2-dimensional. :-)
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/me slaps mikeymike with a trout :smack:
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I thought my comment was particularly insightful on a number of levels! :-)
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mikeymike wrote:
I thought my comment was particularly insightful on a number of levels! :-)
:-D
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I have already explained this multiple times, and I'm really sick of all the stupid conspiracy thought surrounding everything in this community. Feel free to read the AmigaWorld.net thread if you need to better understand what happened.
No further debate is necessary.
Wayne
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gee, i'm sorry Ryu has had problems with his site. It sure looks like a useful little place!
hope things work out! :knuddel:
haha (http://www.intuitionbase.com/amigaonefaq.php):
"Can I have a blue A1 motherboard instead of a green one?
That's just stupid."
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Wayne wrote:
I have already explained this multiple times, and I'm really sick of all the stupid conspiracy thought surrounding everything in this community. Feel free to read the AmigaWorld.net thread if you need to better understand what happened.
No further debate is necessary.
Wayne
They're talking about hiring the A-Team, are you afraid yet? :-)
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... No! It's all lies! Except the bit about Skittyhorpe. That damn donkey was clearly photoshopped into those pictures :-x
Oh wait... Er...
Is that the time? I've got to go see a man about a donkey. Er dog, even...
:-D
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W T H have you been drinking :lol:.
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odin wrote:
W T H have you been drinking :lol:.
Battenburg seepage... (http://www.weebl.jolt.co.uk/ill.htm)
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odin wrote:
W T H have you been drinking :lol:.
I'd rather ask: w t h have you been sniffing (donkey photoshopping :-?)?
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Oh no!
i actually understood what Karlos was talking about...
Although "Bugger Bogner" (last words of king George) sounds better.
(whoops, sry)
Hum,
i must get some rest....
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blobrana wrote:
Oh no!
i actually understood what Karlos was talking about...
:lol: That's a bad sign! A bad sign indeed...
Although "Bugger Bogner" (last words of king George) sounds better.
(whoops, sry)
*chuckles*
Hum,
i must get some rest....
Yes. I think you better had :-D
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I think you all should pay more attention to Dr. Phil :-D