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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: darksun9210 on April 20, 2004, 02:51:13 PM
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last night i was trawling through my amiga active cover CD's looking for a TCP IP stack that didn't time out after 30 mins, and found a VNC client for the amiga. after grining stupidly and thinking "oh my m*****f****** god, how cool is that" i was wondering, after repeated "software error - suspend or reboot" if anyone else has got it to work?
setup:-
standard (unexpanded) A1200 with pcmcia network card running miami and OS3.0
networked to a PC running VNC viewer i use to look at a couple of other PCs on the network.
is it just the fact that i am running out of ram? (600k left after loading TCP/IP stack) has anyone else used this and to what degrees of success?
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I have used the VNC-viewer called VVA many times on my Amiga without real problems. I have used it with Miiami, AmiTCP and Genesis.
The machine was an A1200 with OS3.5, lots of RAM and Cybergraphix. (BlizzardPPC 060@50MHz, 603@240MHz and BlizzardVision).
Tix
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I think it requires a 040.
More info here: http://dspach.free.fr/amiga/vva/
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Yep... VVA works like a charm with CyberGraphX and some extra RAM. I've used it on Miami and Genesis, as well. I used to be able to open the VNC session in a window on my Amiga Workbench. It seems only able to allocate a new screen now, though. Strange. The window on workbench was almost surreal to see.
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From the VVA.guide (requirements):
In order to use VVA you need the following minimum configuration
- An Amiga capable to display at least 256 colors, AGA or gfx-card
- CPU 68020 or better
- AmigaOS 3.0 and up
- A TCP/IP-stack, like Miami, AmiTCP (v3 and up), or Genesis
- A running VNC-Server anywhere in your reachable network
- reqtools.library
In order to take advantage of more than 256 colors, a gfx-card is required
with CyberGraphics or Picasso96 RTG software.
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My own experience:
I run successfully the VVA client on my A600 with an accelerator (030@40), but I think I encountered problems when I had pulled the FPU out for heat problems (the program couldn't start?).
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2fast, 2furious:
Sorry, never used an AGA app in A600 :oops:
This was for another remote access program that I used, an X-server... So don't consider what I wrote above (although the reqs are valid).
Anyway, you will certainly need some extra memory, for the client and the vva-screen itself (precious chip mem, if you don't have a gfx card).
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Damn! Yeap, Cass is right... ;-)
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Speaking of vnc, have anyone tried the amivnc vnc server from aminet?
I got intrigued by this thread and tried it out. It works, but the colours are extremely messed up. I'm running a p96 1024x768/16b workbench, but amivnc reports a connection being made with 1024x768 2bpp, which I suspect is bitplanes or something, which would explain the colour messup...
Anyone managed to get it to show the colours correctly? I'm using vnc admin or something on this wintel box.
Sincerely,
-Kenneth Straarup.
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right.
point 1. have lots of memory free. i'm guessing about a meg to hold the screen image in ram? (non gfx card)
(must get accelerator back)
point 2. FPU possibly required.
i was trying to run AmiVNC and there is a version there for planar screenmodes, as well as a version for chunky and planar modes, as i wanted to export to the PC i was using the planar version. maybe thats why you have a mess of colour?
beyond this you guys have shown its not impossible :-)
kinda glad its not just me who plays with this stuff. :crazy:
mhahaha (ideas for remote connection into home network, and then vnc into amiga from work... )
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if any browser on the amiga supports java (:-D) run realVNC and then use the java viewer...
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@elendil
Speaking of vnc, have anyone tried the amivnc vnc server from aminet?
It's very badly written and very very very slow (it scans the whole display periodically, only supports one format etc). There is no proper Amiga vnc server.
@sir_inferno
if any browser on the amiga supports java run realVNC and then use the java viewer...
Hehe, that was funny.
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Ahh, crap :/
Oh well, thanks for informing me. Guess I'll have to walk to the amiga every time I want something done.
Sincerely,
-Kenneth Straarup.
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This is a coincidence.... I was just trying to get VNC to work. I want to connect from my work PC to my home PC but I don't understand how I can do that seeing as the work PC would never be able to access my home PC via the internet.
Is it possible to access a home PC from work over the internet?
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@BigBenAussie
Sure it is possible, but not a safe habit to leave a full remote access ready for everybody... (you'll have to leave the server's port available through the firewall)
VNC is a cross-platform solution (ex. Amiga-Windows), but if you use PCs at your work also, you may prefer a more native solution (XWindows for Unix systems, remote desktop for windows etc.).
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VNC can be made safe if you're running a computer as router which has a secure shell server running. This is explained pretty good at the AT&T site/faq. I'll try to dig it up if anyone's interested.
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OK. I'm sorry this is off topic but....I'm kinda getting desperate and I'm really determined to do it.
How do I leave the server's port available through the firewall?
I'm running XP Pro at home.
I have a router box with a built in firewall at home....I guess I would have to remove it.
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I wouldn't want to run a VNC server on a public network without encryption. If you send the password to start a VNC session it's sent unencrypted. I.e. easy for people who know stuff about it to sniff it out and take over your computer......
However routing a specific port to a certain computer behind the router should be easy, should be in the router's manual.
VNC uses a standard port number of 5901 or thereabouts, isn't it?
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Hehe, I actually played with this just a couple weeks ago, had lots of problems with it and don't really know what I did once I finally got it up and running. Anyways I'm running on AGA with a 16 color Workbench using the server found on AmiNet.
I took a screenshot of it running which you can look at here: http://80.88.104.210/amivnc.png ...
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OK...I'm totally ignorant about networking.
How on earth is my work PC able to connect to my server PC at home over the internet. I mean the IP address isn't going to be enough is it? I can't just get to any PC connected to the internet via an IP address can I? Errr... I guess I can, but I still don't get it. I mean, doesn't there need to be a central computer to manage the connection, or does my ISP serve as that? Isn't that how MS Netmeeting's remote desktop works by initially connecting to a central service?
I notice that the REALVNC server version allows you do add a client. Is that something I have to do or is it automatic?
And I really don't care if I throw the computer open totally. I REALLY need to get to my home machine.
How do I open the port in XP?
I would be eternally grateful if anyone can help me.
I really wish the REAL VNC website would have a quickstart section. I don't care about the options. I just need it to work.
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look up stuff about VPN (virtual private networking) this should give you an encrypted connection (VPN Tunnel) to your machine and stop anyone being able to sniff data packets for unencoded password data that may be sent.
once the VPN is set up, then you should be able to access the machine as though you are on the same network as it is.
do a quick google for VPN, it should be pretty self explanitory, especially as you are using winXP(pro i hope)
then all you need is a VNC server running on the machine you want to connect to (Home), and the VNC client running on the machine to want use it with (Work). run the VNC viewer and type the IP address of the home machine and ta-daa! it works! or at least thats the theory
even works across dial up.
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I've seen people complain about the speed issues of VNC on amiga due to the way in which the screen is captured.
Would it be possible to write a version using some sort of notification patch that literally intercepts all calls to graphics/intuition on the current (frontmost) screen in such a way as to add "damage rectangles" to a queue? This assumes, of course, that VNC itself is able to work with partial (rather than complete) screen refreshes.