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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: smace on April 17, 2004, 04:14:37 PM
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As pleased I am to hear about the developer pre-release, I am a bit of a question mark because I'd like to know what this means to a regular user. What does it say about the state of the OS.. as in how far ahead is an end-user release you think?
What is the difference between a dev. release and a release for the regular user?
I think I'll have to celebrate this a little tonight :)
:pint: -> :crazy: -> :afro:
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I guess a post-release?..
:-D
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And then i suppose OS 4.1?
BTW, Does any one know how OS4 will run on Winuae?
:-?
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It wont. OS4 for original Amigas needs a PPC card, and WinUAE only does 68k emulation up to 040, not 060 or PPC. So OS4 wont work on WinUAE at all.
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Well, it's a heck of a milestone. The question now is... "When is it done?" I'd say it means no more than 365 days before the 'real thing' is on the shelf, barring any new ridiculousness. :-P
It's already been getting Beta'd (while in turn, our definition of "Beta testing" is a little loose), and the walkthrough hints at what's left to be polished.
Now seems to be the point where anyone can try to finish up any drivers not yet written, and any software that really ought to be around for launch can be... er, started. (I'm not going to cross my fingers for Mozilla or Flash, but as an 'end user,' I don't know if anyone knows anything I don't.)
I've lost track of whether SNAP or Warp3D are even in the running for potential inclusion with point-0, and right now would be a good time to wonder if KMOS have any new requirements that all the other potato-holders didn't. Will it be the *pif* we've all been promised (no real marketing push until .2 at the least?), or does anyone have an excuse to hold back and try to make a bang?
...especially if everyone with hardware is entitled to a copy of the Preview up to and past the point it's worth calling a "Release." :-o
[The difference between a "Developer's Release" and a "Release" would seem to be "Don't complain too loudly, we already know!"]
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the good thing is it will promote competition between two systems. Hopefully it will result in MORE software.
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Something I'd like to know - vaugely on this topic - is: Will those receiving the prerelease be allowed to comment on it in public forums?
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Hi,
I don't think the polishing will take a year. When I get my pre release I WILL comment on it, compare to my OS3.9 machine and the Winblows XP at work.
Chris
Oh yea, I forgot, the consumer edition will be out- "When it's done".
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QuikSanz wrote:
Hi,
I don't think the polishing will take a year.
I'd hope not, I'm just saying, there really is nothing more that can be safely assumed from the words "Developers' Preview" themselves. ;-)
Edit: Oh yeah, one thing I wanted to add... All those people running around on Slashdot, talking about how the DE is shipping on all sorts of cellphones right now, and 4 will immediately do everything and cook you breakfast after... How does that help?
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My guess is that a dev release with developer tools, compiler, etc. will do two things.
First, it will let developers port 3.x/3.9 stuff so there are some apps ready for it and not just legacy versions running under the emulation layer. Of course, new code may be in the works too.
Second, a good way to find some of the subtler bugs is to have people writing for the new OS and see what snags they hit.
I bet they'll let the dev release run with the registered developers for a couple months and then release the consumer distro.
Just my guess....
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:-? Need to know if Amiga Forever 6.0 would would work under OS4? :-?
Good day to all Amigans! :-D
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Another whole YEAR before it is released?!!! jeez
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> Need to know if Amiga Forever 6.0 would would work under OS4?
Huh?
That doesn't seem likely or even necessary.
From what I've read Amiga Forever 6.0 is a Knoppix (Linux distro) based UAE aimed at x86 machines.
Since OS4 runs on a PPC Amiga it doesn't seem probable.
Anyway, why would you need to put Amiga Forever on your OS4 installation? It has an emulation layer for 68k software.
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I don't believe OS4 emulates the custom chips though so you're probably going to have trouble with games.
I'm sure someone will port UAE to OS4 eventually if it is not already.
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BigBenAussie wrote:
I'm sure someone will port UAE to OS4 eventually if it is not already.
Yep, it has :-) . Click here (http://rcdrummond.net/uae/screenshots/uae-os4_1.png)
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>Anyway, why would you need to put Amiga Forever on your OS4 installation? It has an emulation layer for 68k software.
I plan to purchase AF6 then, if possible, to upgrade OS3.x to 4. But if you said was true, I'll have a hard time Looking for a cheaper alternative. On my end(of the world), most people use PeeCee(x86) here, though I stumble a few Anthlons. I rarely could find PPC motherboards here. Unless I purchase one at the states. Too expensive for me(specially the bundled ones) and would take a longer while till I really get one. I don't feel like ebay's for me too. got my reasons. :-(
Thanks! :-D Good day to all Amigans! :-D
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There is already a port of UAE for OS4. So there is nothing to stop you putting a legacy environment together for hardware banging 68K apps and games.
All the A1 earlybird owners have a CD with a 3.1 Magic Pack Setup, they can just unpack this to a directory and use Richard Drummond's OS4 UAE.
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@jahbaloo
I am a bit of a question mark because I'd like to know what this means to a regular user. What does it say about the state of the OS.. as in how far ahead is an end-user release you think?
It means, OS4 can be used as your main system (at least I do). i.e you can leave your OS3.x behind and use OS4 as your main system.
It means that there are still bugs and that's why it's just a pre-release.
It means that there are still things to add to the OS. So the final release will be even better than the pre-release.
I means that you can port your old software to OS4.
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>> I'm sure someone will port UAE to OS4 eventually
>> if it is not already.
> Yep, it has . Click here
Nice screenshot but there is only a distribution for Amiga OS and I'm guessing that's for the current 3.9 version.
...so maybe once you get OS4 you can install and run the UAE for Amiga but UAE would probably be running under the OS4 emulation layer.
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sprocket wrote:
>> I'm sure someone will port UAE to OS4 eventually
>> if it is not already.
> Yep, it has . Click here
Nice screenshot but there is only a distribution for Amiga OS and I'm guessing that's for the current 3.9 version.
...so maybe once you get OS4 you can install and run the UAE for Amiga but UAE would probably be running under the OS4 emulation layer.
Yup, the version used is the AMiga verson. We have a slightly tweaked version for MorphOS that I use. It runs well, and I have tried the OS3.x version on my Pegasos under MorphOS too. If your looking to play A500 games your set, but if your looking to install OS3.x in it its just going to be to slow.