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Title: Whats the scoop with Cloanto's AF 6.0 on Knoppix?
Post by: Lo on April 10, 2004, 02:14:35 AM
Yes, lotsa rumours out there, but links sound all confused.
Anyone know/tried this beast yet?  Might be a way out of the Amithlon dilemma.  Hope it flies!

(PS, AF 5.0 can surely tax a Winx86 box with a good game going , heats the heck out of my AMD 2600+ CPU diode to 60C!) :-o
Title: Re: Whats the scoop with Cloanto's AF 6.0 on Knoppix?
Post by: jd997uk on April 10, 2004, 08:17:33 AM
This thread (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=7957) has a link to the info.

-john

UPDATE Cloanto (?) (http://www.ann.lu/comments2.cgi?show=1081540627&category=unmoderated&number=13#comment) have posted some links to pictures of the new version 6
Title: Re: Whats the scoop with Cloanto's AF 6.0 on Knoppix?
Post by: Matt_H on April 10, 2004, 05:50:21 PM
This (http://www.amigaforever.com/kxlight/) is the link referenced in the ANN thread.

And yes, given the difficulty in acquring a legal copy of Amithlon, this could be the solution.

Has anyone tried this yet? If the Knoppix booter is HD installable, I'm sold.

Lotsa great products hitting the market lately!
Title: Re: Whats the scoop with Cloanto's AF 6.0 on Knoppix?
Post by: sarkis on April 19, 2004, 09:02:57 AM
Hi All,
  Have a gateway laptop that will be dedicated a
AF6. It has no hardrive as yet and a minimum of 32mb
ram.It is a pentium I or II ? @ 200mz..Will this laptop
work in a non game use? Arexx scripts..
tia
Sarkis
Title: Re: Whats the scoop with Cloanto's AF 6.0 on Knoppix?
Post by: Acill on April 19, 2004, 12:42:33 PM
That laptop should be fine. I've had a much slower system run UAE, but that was a long time ago. I'm not to sure of the latest version included with Amiga Forever.
Title: Re: Whats the scoop with Cloanto's AF 6.0 on Knoppix?
Post by: MrZammler on April 19, 2004, 02:35:19 PM
Amithlon was much more than a linux + UAE setup...
Title: Re: Whats the scoop with Cloanto's AF 6.0 on Knoppix?
Post by: bhoggett on April 19, 2004, 02:59:36 PM
My copy hasn't arrived yet, but from all the available info it's just UAE on Linux, even if it is a "live" Linux distro.

This has good points and bad ones. The good points are compatibility with anything supported through Linux, the bad ones are incompatibility of AmigaOS side drivers which cannot be used, unlike Amithlon. Native x86 code for Amiga apps will also not work.

So, in the absence of Amithlon/Umilator or any follow-up, AF 6.0 is as good as it gets, but it ain't a replacement. It's not the "new generation" Amithlon or anything like that.

There's the ANN thread here (http://www.ann.lu/comments2.cgi?view=1081540627&category=news), with a few comments from Bernie on the differences between the two.
Title: Re: Whats the scoop with Cloanto's AF 6.0 on Knoppix?
Post by: bhoggett on April 19, 2004, 03:06:41 PM
Actually, what Cloanto should have done, because there is a need for it, is to integrate a development environment (gcc, AmigaOS SDK, SDL etc) as a pre-configured option.
Title: Re: Whats the scoop with Cloanto's AF 6.0 on Knoppix?
Post by: TwIsTeD on April 19, 2004, 08:08:45 PM
KNOPPIX is a "live" Linux distro this means everything is done in RAM. KNOPPIX it's self is AMAZING it manages to fit about 5 gig of stuff on a single CD (done with some impresive compression) so a version of UAE (or what ever) built on this would not touch your hard disks... I myself use KNOPPIX as a Fix disk when my version of mandrake goes arse over...


TwIsTeD
Title: Re: Whats the scoop with Cloanto's AF 6.0 on Knoppix?
Post by: sarkis on May 02, 2004, 02:32:10 AM
how much ram does it need?  32 meg or more?
tia
sarkis :-D
Title: Re: Whats the scoop with Cloanto's AF 6.0 on Knoppix?
Post by: sarkis on May 03, 2004, 07:30:47 PM
Wouldnt work with 32 meg addes 128 and worked like a charm

Gateway 2500 barebones..200mgz 160 meg memory no hard drive
AF6.0 in the dc tray :)

Sarkis :-D  :-D  :-D
Title: Re: Whats the scoop with Cloanto's AF 6.0 on Knoppix?
Post by: DFergATL on May 03, 2004, 07:41:57 PM
I got my copy.  I have had some mixed results.  The window install crashes.  The live CD boots just fine.  They say that the Live version is installable onto HD but no directions can be found.  Also, the default look is not so good.  Yes it looks like the standard 3.9 install.  Grey, blockly, ugly.  I know it is just "eye candy" but I really wish they had inculded some of the stuff that makes Amgia OS look nice and a nice default look would be great.  The MUI version that comes with it is the sharware version so it will cost you another $25 to improve the look.  I will say that the responsiveness of the Live CD is pretty good.  Should be even better when install to HD.  In one part of their home page jokes about leaving the CD in your friends computer for when they boot it up.  I wouldn't do that, the default look is just too ugly, I don't want my friends to think that Amiga OS looks that bad and that old.
Title: Re: Whats the scoop with Cloanto's AF 6.0 on Knoppix?
Post by: SlimJim on May 03, 2004, 08:10:50 PM
Installed it two days after its release (bought if on AmiGbg). And it's very nice. Installed on the laptop without any glitches. And it boots directly off the CD should you want to, without touching the host OS at all.
 
I'm not the one to ask about technical specs though -- I still have a real Amiga so this more of a curiosity for me. There are a few games included which plays well. You can also update UAE automatically from the net now, which is good. For the real fans there are (digitally enhanced) videos included, among them the original launch party of the Amiga by Commodore. Man, it was big! that actually gave me the shivers! Deathbed Vigil of course, as well as some taped speeches by Jay Miner.

A strange but cool feature is the "realistic" AmigaOS1.3 feel, where you hear the click and whirr of the diskdrive as games load. I must be pathetc, but that sound sure brought back memories.
 
So for me AmigaForever6 is perhaps not a replacement for my A4000/060, but it's a good buy nevertheless. Lot of work, enthusiasm and love has gone into making the product ready for a new version release despite others in the company thinking the creators are just plain nuts.
And thats worth supporting, if nothing else.
.
SlimJim
Title: Re: Whats the scoop with Cloanto's AF 6.0 on Knoppix?
Post by: sarkis on May 04, 2004, 11:47:36 AM
Hi All,
 Went ahead on EBAY and got a bare bones gateway solo 2500
for $70.00.. :-D  NO HARD DRIVE  :-(  NO OS :-D
needed a a battery  :-x .Borrowed 128 meg sodimm and
plunked it in. Changed the boot sequence for a cd boot and with AF6 in the drive I  was welcomed to an amiga on the go  :-D
Hardware support?
Want a wireless mouse doable
Want to use USB for one of those portable drives say 128meg
 :-?  
Ok RTFM..
but maybe someone already has had some success.
TIA :-P
Sarkis
Title: Re: Whats the scoop with Cloanto's AF 6.0 on Knoppix?
Post by: sarkis on May 04, 2004, 12:00:23 PM
I have a Zaurus Will AF6 port into it
by some magic?
Sarkis :-P  :-P  :-P