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Coffee House => Coffee House Boards => CH / General => Topic started by: T_Bone on April 06, 2004, 09:35:45 AM
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just thought I'd bring this to the attention of all you Xoops addicts who don't often venture to forums without avatar support :-P but ann.lu has been threatened with legal action and Christian has said he may shut the site down :-(
I could care less about companies suing other companies. Let them play their corporation games, who cares. But leave the Websites alone. I get a bit defensive about people threatening sites I frequent.
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WTF? Who is Kemp's former employer, and why would anyone do that? :-x
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whabang wrote:
WTF? Who is Kemp's former employer, and why would anyone do that? :-x
You know what I don't understand? We've seen sites threatened before, and the same thing happens EVERY time. people get pissed.
WHY anyone would do it again after seeing the bad PR it's generated for those that have done it in the past is way beyond me. it's dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb.
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The real details of the situation don't seem to have been divulged yet though.
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Hello
I hope this is just an April Mob or misunderstanding.
Who is the employer? Is it Genesi / Bill Buck?
If this correct, perhaps Amiga.Org will be the next target, because IIRC Mr Wayne was a former employee of Genesi.
Any confirmation about legal threat to Amiga.Org?
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> perhaps Amiga.Org will be the next target
That would be a really bad move.
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asian1, don't let your imagination run away with you. Wait and see what does happen.
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mikeymike wrote:
asian1, don't let your imagination run away with you. Wait and see what does happen.
First we need to get the facts!
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bloodline wrote:
mikeymike wrote:
asian1, don't let your imagination run away with you. Wait and see what does happen.
First we need to get the facts!
There arn't any facts. BBRV was asked which posts he objected to not being moderated properly, and he never replied.
All we have is a vague threat.
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Where did you get the info from that it was bbrv/genesi that the issue is from?
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mikeymike wrote:
Where did you get the info from that it was bbrv/genesi that the issue is from?
From ann.lu and Morphzone.org
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First off, Genesi are not sueing ANN.lu or Christian Kemp. From what I hear, it's the other way around - Kemp is suing Genesi for the money he was not paid by them and believes he's entitled to. Genesi seem to have responded by making legal threats.
So put down your pipebombs, put a hold on your order cancellations, stop swinging those baseball bats, and watch it play out. Like most real world confrontations, it probably has no good guy. Genesi are making threats to save their own skin and Kemp is using his site as a political weapon against Genesi. Don't be too quick to take sides - yet.
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oh, great!
so BBRV is pissed that the people he F'ed over by not paying them actually have the "nerve* to mention this in public!
and now he's going to threaten them with legal action?
that shows class, doesn't it!
:furious:
karma's a bit_ch
ann (http://ann.lu/comments2.cgi?view=1081236244&category=motd&start=1&43)
moobunny (http://www.flyingmice.com/cgi-bin/squidcgi/mbthread.pl/amiga/expand/100609)
morphZone (http://www.morphzone.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=1865&forum=3)
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Guys, please quote URLs to add credence to what you're saying, otherwise all statements are equally meaningless.
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more karma:
Legal threats? : Comment 232 of 284
Posted by Graham_nli (81.96.74.103) on 06-Apr-2004 15:05:36
In Reply to Comment 226 (Bernie Meyer):
"But the supposed breach, if I understand correctly, is the failure to remove defamatory/libellous comments."
I'm guessing the comment in question is the fake Fleecy e-mail that Buck used in court, and might get him in trouble because it is fake and he said it is real.
Was that thread moderated as News? If so, then Christian could be in trouble. bbrv can clearly say that he assumed that the e-mail was true because it was on a website with moderation, and it was moderated as News, i.e., published by the site owner. This would get bbrv off of the accusation that he deliberately lied legally I guess.
this post (http://ann.lu/comments2.cgi?view=1081236244&category=motd&start=201)
Legal threats? : Comment 259 of 290 Posted by MegaHurts (62.231.155.142) on 06-Apr-2004 16:42:10 In Reply to Comment 240 (Bernie Meyer): Maybe, I interpret Christian's message a bit differently. To me it looks like BB has lost a business partner and is trying to blame Christian, by saying the comments he made about non payment of advertising space has caused this relationship to fail. At least that's what the line in the employment contract quoted is about. BB can't see past the end of his nose and realise that he is to blame for any failed relationship.
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WHY anyone would do it again after seeing the bad PR it's generated for those that have done it in the past is way beyond me. it's dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb.
I agree. Political suicide.
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To see a history of CK's work, check his web site:
http://www.ckemp.com/?get=work
:pint:
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First off, Genesi are not sueing ANN.lu or Christian Kemp. From what I hear, it's the other way around - Kemp is suing Genesi for the money he was not paid by them and believes he's entitled to. Genesi seem to have responded by making legal threats.
So put down your pipebombs, put a hold on your order cancellations, stop swinging those baseball bats, and watch it play out. Like most real world confrontations, it probably has no good guy. Genesi are making threats to save their own skin and Kemp is using his site as a political weapon against Genesi. Don't be too quick to take sides - yet.
Well said, KennyR. I suppose it is a bit premature to develop
a "well rounded" opinion of the situation at this point.
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Kemp is suing Genesi for the money he was not paid by them and believes he's entitled to. Genesi seem to have responded by making legal threats.
No, Christian is not sueing anyone. At this very moment, at least :-D
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KennyR wrote:
First off, Genesi are not sueing ANN.lu or Christian Kemp. From what I hear, it's the other way around - Kemp is suing Genesi for the money he was not paid by them and believes he's entitled to. Genesi seem to have responded by making legal threats.
So put down your pipebombs, put a hold on your order cancellations, stop swinging those baseball bats, and watch it play out. Like most real world confrontations, it probably has no good guy. Genesi are making threats to save their own skin and Kemp is using his site as a political weapon against Genesi. Don't be too quick to take sides - yet.
What the hell do you know that I don't??? :-)
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You should stick around in #AmigaZeux more often. A lot of things come to our ears there, one way or another.
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but... but... I've spent the past 2 days violently ripping Genesi a new one! :lol: