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Title: can i go on the internet on my a2000
Post by: lordnicon on April 04, 2004, 01:46:32 PM
can i put my amiga A2000 on a network and the internet if do what do i need

thanks for your help
Title: Re: can i go on the internet on my a2000
Post by: 4pLaY on April 04, 2004, 01:47:36 PM
Yes you can =) before i go all mental and tell what you will need perhaps you could give me the specs of you A2000 all from HW to Soft wise?.
Title: Re: can i go on the internet on my a2000
Post by: lordnicon on April 04, 2004, 02:02:21 PM
huh software 0 i have't got any yet hardwear i don't really know but i'll try my best

its a a 2000
A2620
A2091
A2058
AGA-2000E

don't know about roms (don't know how to find out
Title: Re: can i go on the internet on my a2000
Post by: DeQuevedo on April 04, 2004, 02:11:02 PM
@lodricon

AGA-2000E??????

What the {bleep}ing hell is that?
Title: Re: can i go on the internet on my a2000
Post by: lordnicon on April 04, 2004, 02:12:35 PM
microway AGA-2000E flickerfixer = video card

EDIT linky for ya http://www.amiga-hardware.com/microway.html
Title: Re: can i go on the internet on my a2000
Post by: lordnicon on April 04, 2004, 03:12:42 PM
can i use a ISA network card?
Title: Re: can i go on the internet on my a2000
Post by: AmiMan on April 05, 2004, 08:09:07 AM
Get yourself a Zorro II net card from eBay.  Be prepared to pay at least $100.00 when you do find one, they are very hard to get.
Title: Re: can i go on the internet on my a2000
Post by: Piru on April 05, 2004, 08:19:14 AM
@lordnicon
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can i use a ISA network card?

Not unless if you have a bridgeboard (http://www.amiga-hardware.com/bboard.html) with active ISA slots.
Title: Re: can i go on the internet on my a2000
Post by: lordnicon on April 05, 2004, 08:21:55 AM
damn why do i have isp am the a2000 mobo
and is this what you ment http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4121888401&category=4598
Title: Re: can i go on the internet on my a2000
Post by: utri007 on April 05, 2004, 09:04:23 AM
No thats arc net card

Contact to Individual computers and you get new x-surf under 100$

http://www.jschoenfeld.com/indexe.htm


Title: Re: can i go on the internet on my a2000
Post by: lordnicon on April 05, 2004, 09:15:08 AM
hummm where to get one ebay is't very good when you want something now lol
Title: Re: can i go on the internet on my a2000
Post by: Noster on April 05, 2004, 09:29:28 AM
Hi

BTW, which Kickstart you are using ?
You should have at least OS 3.1 or it will be very hard to find/set-up the required tools to get into the net.

Noster
Title: Re: can i go on the internet on my a2000
Post by: lordnicon on April 05, 2004, 09:38:59 AM
well i'm just guessing coz i don't know how to find out i think its V2.04 coz i have rev 6 mobo but i don't know i can find out if you tell me a way to see
Title: Re: can i go on the internet on my a2000
Post by: lordnicon on April 05, 2004, 10:01:32 PM
can i get a Zorro II to PCMCIA card so i can use a PCMCIA NIC
Title: Re: can i go on the internet on my a2000
Post by: Noster on April 06, 2004, 09:05:44 AM
Hi

It's quite simple to check the version of your Kickstart and Workbench:
Open a shell and enter the command "Version".
It should tell you the version of your Kickstart and the Workbench. It tells you a number between 33.xx upto 45.xx, here is a simple list of the version numbers and the according OS versions:

Version == AmigaOS
33.xx == 1.2
34.xx == 1.3
35.xx == don't know, ought to be the never released 1.4
36.xx == 2.0
37.xx == 2.04
38.xx == 2.1 (not shure)
39.xx == 3.0 (only A1200 and A4000, maybe CD32)
40.xx  == 3.1
41.xx - 44.xx == ???, 3.5 must be in this range
45.xxx == 3.9

Hope this helps.

> can i get a Zorro II to PCMCIA card so i can use a PCMCIA NIC

Never heard about such a card..

Noster
Title: Re: can i go on the internet on my a2000
Post by: lordnicon on April 06, 2004, 09:21:39 AM
right i just did that and it came up with kickstart version 34.5 = 1.3
and workbench version 34.20

so i need new both  :-D
Title: Re: can i go on the internet on my a2000
Post by: Noster on April 06, 2004, 09:28:32 AM
Hi

Have a look at ebay for these parts or maybe vesalia (www.vesalia.de), there I found:

Disk-set OS 3.1 (Workbench, Locale, Extras etc.) -> 9,90 EUR
Kickstart ROM 3.1 for Amiga 500/600/2000 -> 19,90 EUR

Noster
Title: Re: can i go on the internet on my a2000
Post by: lordnicon on April 06, 2004, 09:30:58 AM
cool thanks
Title: Re: can i go on the internet on my a2000
Post by: Brutus on April 06, 2004, 09:46:26 AM
I have now been looking at the specifikations for bothe A2000 and A600, and as far as I can see, if I made the same changes to my A600, it would also be able to enter the World Wide Web?
Title: Re: can i go on the internet on my a2000
Post by: lordnicon on April 06, 2004, 09:49:52 AM
yup as far as i can tell will some add ons they are the same board http://www.amiga-hardware.com/shuttleboards.html
Title: Re: can i go on the internet on my a2000
Post by: Noster on April 06, 2004, 10:25:54 AM
Hi

@Brutus

Yes of cause you can. But you should really have a turboboard and much memory, at least 8MB will do it, but some additional ram might be usefull if you don't want to close all programms when you start the browser.

@lordnicon

You should have a look at the german eBay pages (www.ebay.de), here are the network cards a little bit cheaper and easier to find (I think), I have looked for nearly a half year for a cheap one, and with some luck I gained a ZEUS ConneXion 10Mbit ethernet-card for less than 30 EUR incl. shipping (Ok, I've never seen such a cheap card again :-) ). But if you are willed (correct vocable?) to pay upto 60 EUR you should have a network card in two or three weeks (incl. shipping), but remember to ask the seller if he is willed to send it to UK BEFORE you bet.

Noster
Title: Re: can i go on the internet on my a2000
Post by: lordnicon on April 06, 2004, 02:20:31 PM
ok i been looking for a network card and i fond this "Ethernet board X-Surf 2 Ethernet 10 Mbit" the only thing in it costs £60.09 which is a lot (ok its new but still)

is this a good idea getting this or should i look for a cheaper one
Title: Re: can i go on the internet on my a2000
Post by: Robbie on April 06, 2004, 02:32:19 PM
you might find that your accelerator (a2620) won't be compatible with the 3.1 ROMS unless you upgrade the roms on the card too. and I'm not sure where u can get roms for that. you might have to just take the card out and use the 68000!  :-o  hehe that's what I had to do
Title: Re: can i go on the internet on my a2000
Post by: lordnicon on April 06, 2004, 02:33:52 PM
what do you have Ethernet board X-Surf 2 Ethernet 10 Mbit then
Title: Re: can i go on the internet on my a2000
Post by: Noster on April 06, 2004, 02:56:31 PM
Hi

> Ethernet board X-Surf 2 Ethernet 10 Mbit" the only thing in it costs £60.09
> which is a lot (ok its new but still) is this a good idea getting this or
> should i look for a cheaper one

The X-Surf 2 is a new card which is still supported (the manufacturer is still in business) so it will also be supported by the coming OS 4.0 and could be reselled at a higher price than other cards, but I couldn't give you an advice to buy or not to buy.
The advantage of this card is also that it uses tp-cables and not BNC as the older ones.

If you don't want to wait long, buy it.

> you might find that your accelerator (a2620) won't be compatible with the 3.1 ROMS
> unless you upgrade the roms on the card too

Never heard of such problems, but who knows ? You might anyway look for a faster turboboard depending on what you wish to do with your Amiga. If you really want to use it for eMail and surfing and running "actual" software, you should try to gain a fast 68030 or a 68040. If you just want to play around, your A2620 might do it and I would test that, before I buy a new accelerator.

> what do you have Ethernet board X-Surf 2 Ethernet 10 Mbit then

???? What ????

Noster
Title: Re: can i go on the internet on my a2000
Post by: lordnicon on April 06, 2004, 03:03:28 PM
yeah i want to get one like this http://www.amigasuperbit.com/indexcataloge/33.htm
but that shop cost a lot and i can't add anything to cart!


i have a small problem finding a CONNECTR for the psu   :bigcry:
Title: Re: can i go on the internet on my a2000
Post by: sir_inferno on April 06, 2004, 03:27:02 PM
essentialy there are two questions being asked here:

Quote

can i go on the internet on my a2000


of course, make yourself comfortable on top of the a2000 and get a laptop with internet.

Quote

can i put my amiga A2000 on a network and the internet


on the network easy, simply place it on a hub/switch, the internet is a bit more tricky, since it isn't exactly any"thing", i'm sure these experts will help you  :-)
Title: Re: can i go on the internet on my a2000
Post by: Noster on April 06, 2004, 03:32:03 PM
Hi

Yeah, that's a quite good accelerator -- don't know anything better for an A2000 and the price is ok, I think.
A quick search presented me this seller http://www.mrhardwarecomputers.com/data/ac.htm that has this card but this one is more expensive.

Also couldm't add anything to cart, you should try to send an email.

> i have a small problem finding a CONNECTR for the psu

What do you mean (I'm just a stupid kraut, my english is not the best) ? A cable for your power-supply-unit ? How do you tested the "version" command without voltage ?

Noster
Title: Re: can i go on the internet on my a2000
Post by: lordnicon on April 06, 2004, 03:35:18 PM
no i mean ...  you know that bit on the end of the wires that pugs in to the a2000 board
Title: Re: can i go on the internet on my a2000
Post by: Noster on April 06, 2004, 03:45:51 PM
I've said, I'm stupid...where is your old one, respectively which kind of PSU you want to connect ?

Noster
Title: Re: can i go on the internet on my a2000
Post by: lordnicon on April 06, 2004, 03:48:35 PM
my old one is on my floor but i will be putting my amiga A2000 in a tower and i will be using a ATX PSU
Title: Re: can i go on the internet on my a2000
Post by: Noster on April 06, 2004, 03:58:46 PM
Hi

Ok, I understand...I don't see a chance to get this kind of connector anywhere, you will have to cut of the one of the A2000-desktop's PSU :-(
I would use an AT PSU -- if available -- you don't need the 3.3 V line of the ATX PSU and power-on/off might be a problem...

Noster
Title: Re: can i go on the internet on my a2000
Post by: redrumloa on April 06, 2004, 04:07:10 PM
Quote

lordnicon wrote:
hummm where to get one ebay is't very good when you want something now lol


http://www.anachronismindustries.com/os/catalog/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=11&products_id=45

Basic airmail shipping to the UK is $12.
Title: Re: can i go on the internet on my a2000
Post by: lordnicon on April 06, 2004, 04:08:04 PM
well i can just pull the pins out if i need to i have 2 old AT PSU but i don't like the switchs so if i get http://www.quietpc.com/uk/images/atatxsm.jpg and just change the connector to the A2000 one it will be good and i can use any ATX psu with out modding it
Title: Re: can i go on the internet on my a2000
Post by: Noster on April 06, 2004, 04:15:45 PM
@redrumloa

Too expensive...Vesalia sells them for 89,90 EUR.
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.
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Oh, the price seems ok, sorry don't have in mind that the $ stands so bad ;-)


Noster
Title: Re: can i go on the internet on my a2000
Post by: Cyberus on April 06, 2004, 04:29:21 PM
Quote

Noster wrote:

What do you mean (I'm just a stupid kraut, my english is not the best)?


Your English is better than our German!
(I think I can speak for the Brits on AOrg when I say this)

lol @ 'stupid kraut' - does anyone actually say that?
What do Germans call British or English people?
Title: Re: can i go on the internet on my a2000
Post by: redrumloa on April 06, 2004, 04:35:21 PM
Quote

Noster wrote:
Oh, the price seems ok, sorry don't have in mind that the $ stands so bad ;-)
Noster


Yeah the Dollar is extremely weak atm. Trust me it sucks.
Title: Re: can i go on the internet on my a2000
Post by: lordnicon on April 06, 2004, 04:36:40 PM
lol yeah but it still costs more  :-P
Title: Re: can i go on the internet on my a2000
Post by: redrumloa on April 06, 2004, 04:42:03 PM
Quote

lordnicon wrote:
lol yeah but it still costs more  :-P


Go for it, buy whatever is the cheapest for you. I won't hold it against you :-P
Title: Re: can i go on the internet on my a2000
Post by: lordnicon on April 06, 2004, 04:43:20 PM
lol thanks :lol:
Title: Re: can i go on the internet on my a2000
Post by: JC on April 06, 2004, 05:09:58 PM
I had an unexpanded A2000 with 2.0 Roms that I managed to get online. I did have to use old programs but it worked rather well considering. Also a friend of mine was online with his A600 using Aweb to browse. He upgraded the roms and bought an 020 accelerator but for such a small investment it worked remarkably well.
Title: Re: can i go on the internet on my a2000
Post by: Noster on April 06, 2004, 07:55:48 PM
@JC

> I had an unexpanded A2000 with 2.0 Roms that I managed to get online

Respect, but it doesn't sounds funny, speed must be something simular to my first contacts to mailboxes in the late 80th using my A1000 with a 1200 baud modem :-D


@cyberus

> lol @ 'stupid kraut' - does anyone actually say that?

I don't think so, but "stupid german" does really sound stupid, doesn't it ;-) ?

Noster