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Amiga.org specific forums => New User Introductions => Topic started by: Orgue on April 04, 2004, 11:04:51 AM
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Hi there!
I'm quite the newbie, despite I've owned an Amiga for nearly a decade. Back in the days when State of the Art was Redefined I never owned an Amiga but I was fascinated by the ones my friends had. In 1996 I bought my first Amiga, a 2000, to do animations and some music. After music became my main interest I bought a Amiga 600 which I took on the road for live gigs and ater the 600 died (it's burried in the studio, I still think it can raise from the death) I bought a 1200, which I'm using for 3 years now.
Like I said, I only use my Amiga for music, so I'm afraid I won't be the most valuable and contributing user on this forum but I do hope I'll be able to awnser some questions on occassion. I do have plenty of questions myself, I wil post them in the appropriate forums soon :)
For those who care, here's a picture of my studio, with the Amiga as it's pounding heart:
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Nice to see so much proffessional gear centered around one little
A1200. Welcome to Amiga.org.
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have a nice stay here :-)
seems you are a professional musician ... lets hear some tunes :-D
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Hi there Orgue,
I was just wondering what software you use and have you had anything mastered?
btw, Welcome! :-)
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Orgue wrote:
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Coooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool... :-)
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:pint: Welcome to Amiga.org, Orgue. The first one's on me.
;-) That's a nice setup you've got there. I'll bet that it took a bit of time and effort to knock together.
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nice how do you do music on a little 1200 :-o what ports do you use
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@>Orgue
Welcome and hi, thats a cool setup you have there, what music software do you use? :-)
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Thank you all for your welcomes :)
The program is use is the infamous Octamed Pro 4.0. I tried different programs (amongst wich Octamed 6 and Octamed for PC) but I keep turning back to this one, altho lately it gets very tempting to switch to a laptop for live gigs (which is actually the reason I signed up here...) I like Octamed because it's the program I started with and well... why learn something new if what you know is good already? Despite Octamed is a tracker I hardly do audio with the Amiga anymore, except for some percussion sounds or some sampled effect sounds. Because of the low sample rate Amiga's are really good for beats. Most of what I do with the Amiga is midi sequencing, I have a Vector Midi Plus midi interface and a sampler of unkown origine.
I have had stuff mastered, altho I'm quite lazy with keeping track of releasing. In 8 years I did 3 solo EP's, the last one is due to be released next month. I contributed to some compilations in the meantime and I hooked up with a friend on 4 or 5 albums (he's also an Octamed / Amiga user).
If you want you can listen to some mp3 files on my website, but most of them are only short previews:
http://www.bunker-records.com/orgue-electronique
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Hi Orgue!
Nice to meet a fellow musician! :-)
Nice looking studio you got, is that a dx7 i see on the right?
My previous studio consisted on these gadgets:
24 channel digital behringer mixer
Korg Z1
Roland Tb303
Yamaha CS6X
Roland SH-1
Korg ElecTribe ER-1 and EA-1
AKAI SH-2000 sampler
Novation DrumStation & Bass Station
PC using Cubase SX and Amiga 2000 using octamed
Now my studio is all digital:
Pc using xp and cubase sx & buzz 1.5
Various VST`s & VSTi`s
Genelec 1030A studio monitors
I aswell has released 4 singles, and an EP
checkout www.galaxee.no
The music styles im into is Electronica, Trance, House, and some Dance when i get asked to do that.
Welcome to Amiga.org! And hope we may have some interesting conversations!
:-)
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that_punk_guy wrote:
Coooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool... :-)
Chris, wipe the drool off your chin. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Thanks Restore :) Yes, that is a DX7 you see there. I recently got it because my DX100 died on me... You had quite a nice kit yourselve! I can't blame you for getting rid of it tho, it all takes a lot of room and with todays technology there's hardly any reason to keep all those big synths in a small house... Except for sentimental reasons :) I have to say, I love old sounds, I love old chicago house and italo disco and so on... I checked your music, it sounds very professional. Did you do that all with software? Rather impressive... Sounds like hit song material to me :) I don't think I'll ever reach that level of production, but I guess the kind of music I like to make can get away with little and gritty production skills. Atleast that's what I tell myself ;)
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@Orgue:
Yes, that was made only by software synths, i still have my Korg Z1, but i dont know what i should use it for :-)
The one thing wrong about your studio, is infact the Amiga using octamed. I really hate to say that but its true, i`ve been there, done that, found out that Cubase SX was a million times better, more professional, you suddenly dont have any limitations anymore :-) (i also tried bars `n` pipes but didnt like it that much)
You have all this amazing gear, and you cant use the power of it with octamed!
My tip for you:
www.buzzmachines.com
Its a VSTi modular tracker for winblows, if you want a software only solution.
Or Cubase SX if you want a combined software hardware solution, but much more difficult song editing.
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Well, to be honest... I know what you mean... When I hear music like yours, made with VSTi's I'm always impressed by the power of it all. The guy I bought the DX7 from was also using SX and software and it was very, very impressive. It is really very good, even the analog emulating software like VAZ and Pro53 and Auturion Moog are really convincing... So indeed, I really have no good reason at all to stick to the way I'm working now, except that it actually works and I like it this way... I trust my Amiga and I trust my synths. When I hook up my Amiga it works. No latency, no processor that's too slow... I'm too attached to my Amiga and Octamed. I bought Cubase SX and I don't like it that much... Despite all it's features I can't seem to learn the program. I have no patience for it, I keep switching to Octamed. I also bought Renoise for my laptop, which is a fastracker like tracker that supports VSTi (it's really very good and very cheap), but when I found out I could emulate an Amiga on my laptop I figured I'd go that way. If it fails, I'll get along with Renoise for sure.
To be honest, the thing is... I'm a romantic. I like older electronic dance music, I like older synthesizers and I like the older production methods. Octamed 4 fits into that romantic picture... It's silly, but that's the way it is right now. Maybe when I get further and learn more, like you have, I'll see the limitations of Octamed. But right now I think it's a bless. I like limitations actually, they make me more creative. I have to work around the limitations to get done what I want, it's kinda feeding me, if you know what I mean. (sounds hippy, I know ;))
So how did you get started? You must have been at it for quite a while now, no?
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I started in the amiga demo scene back in late 1989, making music for intros etc...i wasnt older than 11 years.
I was amazed the first time i saw soundtracker(a version from late 1988, think it was D.O.C`s version), and loaded up a rock song that was included on the disk(i wish i could find it, i want to listen to it again after all these years)
I stayed on the scene until late 1992, when the scene was beginning to decrease. My group "Deadline" split up, some joined Crusaders, others Cryptoburners(I dont remember 100% where they went)
After that i bought a midibox and a cheap synth for my a2000, started to experiment with octamed, bought another synth after that, and more later.
Got a pc in 1999 and installed cubase, almost got a record deal with some songs i made, but talk about bad luck, the record label went bankrupt :lol:
The following year, i started to replace the hardware with software synths, got hold of an early version of "buzz modular tracker"
Since then things really have started to roll :-)
Got a record deal in 2001, released 4 singles, and an album, 3 of those singles were also released on compilation cd`s in both Norway & Sweden.
And a funny story, in 2002, some friends of mine went on a vacation to Bali in asia, they called me from one of the nightclubs there and said: "Dude! theyre playing your single here! wtf! you havent released it here?!?"
Well thats the good side of mp3`s, ur music gets spread all over the world, so im both positive and negative about mp3`s
;-)
Now my nr.1 goal is to get my music released in germany/holland
You should give "Buzz" a try:
http://avdl1064.oli.tudelft.nl/buzzmachines/Buzzmachines_Massive_Pack_Feb2004.exe
Its an excellent vsti tracker, it`s modular, which is quite retro enough for me :-)
You will like it, trust me, it brings back the fun of making music :-)
And its got good midi support, so you can use your gear. :lol:
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@Orgue
I like limitations actually, they make me more creative. I have to work around the limitations to get done what I want, it's kinda feeding me, if you know what I mean. (sounds hippy, I know ;))
I know exactly what you mean. I'm even worse, I'm still using Protracker;)
@Restore2003
You should give "Buzz" a try
I've tried it a bit. I bet it's very powerful, but i found it quite lacking in the ui department, not very intuitive at all. I also find it quite difficult to take the step-up from samples to softsynths. It's so much harder to control the results I think. Is there any really good tutorial on Buzz online?
@Orgue
I also looked at Renoise. If I were to leave the Amiga I also find this program to be the most probable route i would take. I'm also a bit curious about Buzz, but as i said to Restore, I did'nt find the interface easy enough to get into.
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@mepmepmep:
If you download from the link above, thats the latest version, with html interactive manual, that means if you in a specific editing mode, and press "f1" you will get help for exactly what your actually doing.
and u`ll always have:
www.buzzmanual.com
:-)
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Ah, this topic is turning to audio topic then? :-D
I'll prefer Renoise too, Buzz is great but can be quite unstable with certain plugins. Renoise was and is "that" program for me. I don't use midi gear at all. All is done with Vsti's and sampled toy synths (Tyco Hot Keyz, modified casio and Rhythmic 8). I'll try to do electro tracks. I haven't released anything yet, as I think I still have lot to learn about music making, mixing and mastering. You can find my electro project Voimalaitos at:
http://www.mikseri.net/artistit/?id=28472
And remixes from my old ahx/c64 tunes at:
http://www.mikseri.net/artistit/?id=29433
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@rebb_pds
Interesting electro stuff you've got there!
You can find some of my older stuff here (http://os.amiga.com/community/index.php?cat=11). It's the modules, the mp3's are not mine. It's 8bit/4channels stuff done with Protracker...
I'm really thinking about moving to Renoise or Buzz, but have'nt gotten around to it yet so its really interesting to here what other musicians are using here:)
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Welcome to A.org. Please enjoy your stay. :pint:
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Welcome to the brother hood, (sorry, and sister hood)you`ll never feal alone any more. welcome in. :-D
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Since then things really have started to roll!
Got a record deal in 2001, released 4 singles, and an album, 3 of those singles were also released on compilation cd`s in both Norway & Sweden.
What? Under what artist name and on which cd's? tellme tellme tellme tellme! I'm curious!
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You can find my electro project Voimalaitos at:
http://www.mikseri.net/artistit/?id=28472
And remixes from my old ahx/c64 tunes at:
http://www.mikseri.net/artistit/?id=29433
Sounds good to me :) I wouldn't mind hearing more of your stuff. You have nice influences, I love Op:l {bleep}s! Finland has a good scene for this stuff... Lot's of good music coming from the north: Polytron, 8bit rockers / bangkok impact, Imatran Voima... Do you know Phinnweb?
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Orgue: Yes, I know Phinnweb. We have quite a good electro scene here. Your material is absolutely stunning and you have done gigs with Legowelt :-o Legowelt is absolutely great! I really got to improve my stuff then :lol:
mepmepmep: Nice protracking! Renoise or Buzz is a good choise, as you have protracker background. Just download both and test.
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yeah I work often with him, we did some releases together and we tour a lot together. We've even been to Finland two or three times. One time we played with Opel {bleep}s :) they where great, too bad they had to split up.
Your music is good, don't worry. I'd like to hear more when you have some, it's always nice to listen to what other people make.
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Orgue:
This is getting bit OT then :) Sended you email.
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Well hi there.
This is a great group to be in, they have given me a load fo help in a few matters to do with the 1200.
You wont be let down..... :-) :-)