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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: T_Bone on March 16, 2004, 11:43:46 AM
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I mean, it's been a year since this has happened, so why now? Why did they decide that now was the time to go public with this secret?
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T_Bone wrote:
I mean, it's been a year since this has happened, so why now? Why did they decide that now was the time to go public with this secret?
Yup, the more you look at it the more dodgy it seems... Let's not forget that there is a still doubt as to wether or not Escom actually purchaced the rights to the AmigaOS IP, and if subsequent owners of the brand name actually have the right to use it...
Ahhh, well. It's not like it really matters anymore any way :-/
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Maybe they forgot. What with all the other stuff they've been getting up to, like making sure T-shirts go out to customers!...
(this post was constructed using elements of sarcasm)
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Let's not forget that there is a still doubt as to wether or not Escom actually purchaced the rights to the AmigaOS IP, and if subsequent owners of the brand name actually have the right to use it...
But who's going to take them (or anyone else for that matter) up on it if they didn't manage to purchase the rights?
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mikeymike wrote:
Let's not forget that there is a still doubt as to wether or not Escom actually purchaced the rights to the AmigaOS IP, and if subsequent owners of the brand name actually have the right to use it...
But who's going to take them (or anyone else for that matter) up on it if they didn't manage to purchase the rights?
Exactly, the answer is "Who cares?", the AmigaOS IP is worth just a tiny bit more than the GEM IP...
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This all sounds like monkey-business to me... I did a quick google search for Gar(r)y Hare and KMos, or even Itec. Not a single thing of interest besides the ann.lu, moobunny and a.org postings. I doubt Kmos has paid any more than a days salary for the AmigaOS rights..
When I see the case in a strictly objective point of view, it still looks like prefabrication of evidence. Amiga Inc are baaaad..
My personal opinion, let the flaming begin :lol:
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Makes you wonder about that "ask Fleecy" bollox, either Fleecy has used/abused that site to blatently mislead people for months or the admins knew about it and played along.
What makes it worse Fleecy and chums are still being made out to be Hereos.
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This could be a good thing, I don't know (will wait and see what happens), but is it legal?
http://www.ann.lu/comments2.cgi?show=1079399466&category=unmoderated&number=79#comment (http://www.ann.lu/comments2.cgi?show=1079399466&category=unmoderated&number=79#comment)
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I seriously doubt AOS was sold nearly a year ago. Probably something they just made up so they have some evidence to bring to court, and to transfer the only true asset out of an, in my opinion, bankruptcy soon-to-come. Is it just a coincidence that the same day they announce that they are returning to the courtroom with new evidence? Why did'nt they present it in the previous case?
Man! I know b***hi*t when I smelll it. To bad they are bringing bad reputation onto the Amiga-community.
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@ Morley
This is how I understand things:
1. The Genesi vs. Amiga Inc case is closed. Genesi won.
2. After the cased closed, Genesi filed a "motion to modify order", to "refine" some of the wordings in the ruling. Note, this is NOT a new case, the case is still closed.
3. Now some Amiga Inc related people filed a lot of *responses* to that motion. This is not an appeal, the case is still closed and settled in the same way as before.
No one is "returning to court with evidence". The case is closed. Or?
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Let me ask:
Why Hyperion was spreading AmigaOS beta with false copyright information?
Hyperion knew AmigaOS was sold for KMOS but copyright information in AmigaOS beta has been incorrect over a year.
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@TMHG
Okey, I don't have any form of law school, so your probably right... And furthermore I the technical english terms used by lawyers is like greek to me, :lol:
But anyway, you don't have to be more than street-wise to smell what's going on. Looks like their last attempt to stop OS4 for running on Pegasos? I dunno. Cause I can't see what Genesis want's the AmigeDE player, AmigaAnywhere,-call-it-what-you-like, for.
The A.Inc ship is sinking, and their just trying to get the valuables with them...
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@itix
look at my conspiration theory....
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well it's made it's way to the register now :
TheRegister (http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/36285.html)
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Well, if it's one thing that'll make me never by an AOne or OS4.0, it's this soap-opera. Linux vs. SCO is not complex at all compared to this.. :pissed:
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@ Morley
This fundamental change in structures might change things. Perhaps Garry Hare will be seeking to tear down any "Berlin Walls" and find constructive cooperations that might benefit all involved companies in the community? A guy with the signature "Garry Hare" keeps making posts on ann (they are all deleted on sight though) that says something like "Great news! After OS4 is running on the AmigaOne it will be ported to PegasosII". Probably an impersonation, but one never knows? KMOS is pretty unknown, and "Garry Hare" has probably not had the time to get a "trusted user" account yet (if that is what he wants, and if the real Garry even know that ann.lu exists). Perhpas further legal efforts from Genesi's side won't be necessary? Well, it depends on many things I guess, like Garry Hare and other KMOS peoples "business sense", BBRV's intentions with the legal actions, and such. I guess we will see ...
A lot of speculation from my side here. But this is fun IMO, I think this whole mess has been very amusing to follow! Something is happening on an otherwise slow day! :-)
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itix wrote:
Let me ask:
Why Hyperion was spreading AmigaOS beta with false copyright information?
Hyperion knew AmigaOS was sold for KMOS but copyright information in AmigaOS beta has been incorrect over a year.
Yes, but slightly more interesting is the rubbish that Fleecy has been spewing for the past year...
His "team are working on OS4"... why would they work on a product that have nothing to do with?
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This KMOS contract could be very well faked.
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@TMHG
Well, development is always funny, as someone else stated on this forum, we just need a murder to make a good movie :lol:
But I just can't see why A.Inc. has refused to make OS4 run on Pegasos...more sales=more money in the real world. IMHO it's not much difference between the Pegasos and the AOne, they share the same northbridge, or? AFAIK it's just a matter of having the right firmware on the Pegasos boad. But I'm on thin ice when it comes to Pegasos specs. I thought it was build after "zico"-specifications?
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Morley wrote:
@TMHG
Well, development is always funny, as someone else stated on this forum, we just need a murder to make a good movie :lol:
But I just can't see why A.Inc. has refused to make OS4 run on Pegasos...more sales=more money in the real world. IMHO it's not much difference between the Pegasos and the AOne, they share the same northbridge, or? AFAIK it's just a matter of having the right firmware on the Pegasos boad. But I'm on thin ice when it comes to Pegasos specs. I thought it was build after "zico"-specifications?
The problem is that Eyetech went for U-Boot firmware, and Hyperion followed.
Persoanally I would have gone for Opern Firmware, but then I'm not trying to give people a reason to buy a very expensive motherboard.
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T_Bone wrote:
I mean, it's been a year since this has happened, so why now? Why did they decide that now was the time to go public with this secret?
Maybe because Amiga Inc/VC realise that there is a good possibility that BBRV will be able to get what he wants and have AOS4 available for the Pegasos? :-?
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itix wrote:
Let me ask:
Why Hyperion was spreading AmigaOS beta with false copyright information?
Under US law, at least, there's no requirement to display a copyright notice at all (work is automatically copyrighted at the moment of creation; licenses 'patch around' the default protections of copyright), and so the notice itself is nothing special, just a way to give yourself some credit and warn would-be pirates away from your work. No idea how Germany, Benelux(?), or the EU works.
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Morley wrote:
@TMHG
Well, development is always funny, as someone else stated on this forum, we just need a murder to make a good movie :lol:
But I just can't see why A.Inc. has refused to make OS4 run on Pegasos...more sales=more money in the real world. IMHO it's not much difference between the Pegasos and the AOne, they share the same northbridge, or? AFAIK it's just a matter of having the right firmware on the Pegasos boad. But I'm on thin ice when it comes to Pegasos specs. I thought it was build after "zico"-specifications?
A port from Teron/A1 to Pegasos1 could probably be done in a sunday afternoon. Porting it to Pegasos II would take a little longer, but it's sure won't be a big effort. IMO the real problem was more on a personal level at Amiga Inc, but now when Fleecy and McEwen is out of the picture, perhaps things can get back to "normal" (pre-Amiga Inc) and the community can once again join forces against the "outside world", and grow there, instead of the destructive domestic fighting? We'll see what happens, but one can hope at least! :-)
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Morley wrote:
But I just can't see why A.Inc. has refused to make OS4 run on Pegasos...more sales=more money in the real world. IMHO it's not much difference between the Pegasos and the AOne, they share the same northbridge, or? AFAIK it's just a matter of having the right firmware on the Pegasos boad. But I'm on thin ice when it comes to Pegasos specs. I thought it was build after "zico"-specifications?
That's because it would interfere with Eyetech. AmigaOnes are more expensive than faster Pegasus mobos. Guess which one would Amigans chose? :-(
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Now shall I ask why Hyperion is not credit where credit is due?
Anyway, it doesnt matter.
It is remarkable that Hyperion and KMOS are helping Amiga Inc in their court case. Why? Because Amiga Inc and KMOS are same entity.
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Floid wrote:
itix wrote:
Let me ask:
Why Hyperion was spreading AmigaOS beta with false copyright information?
Under US law, at least, there's no requirement to display a copyright notice at all (work is automatically copyrighted at the moment of creation; licenses 'patch around' the default protections of copyright), and so the notice itself is nothing special, just a way to give yourself some credit and warn would-be pirates away from your work. No idea how Germany, Benelux(?), or the EU works.
I'd say that copyright laws are pretty much similar everywhere in the world (at least in the western world). It's part of bigger global trade agreements. In practice, the contents of the copyright laws are set in the USA and then the rest of the world follows. And you are right, the copyright notice has no legal bearing, it's only a notice about who claims the right. You can release something without the copyright notice, and you will still have the copyright. It goes the other way around too, a copyright notice on something that is not covered by the copyright laws is worthless and meaningless.
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@everyone:
What is wrong with you people :-?
Conspiracy theories? Fake annoucements? Stop watching all those series on tv! :-P
And btw. its always nice to have some facts backed up behind your stories :lol:
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@restore2003
Well, Amiga inc. are not exactly known to keep their words, are they? I see them as some pre-dot.com crack desperados who are trying to pull their lies as far as possible. Who has ever seen AmigaDE run anything on anything useful? The IP value is in OS4, not much, but some income will be generated when OS4 fianlly starts shipping, so it's pretty obvious what's going on.
Just because a company holds the rights to the Amiga name doesn't make them the holy, good guys. And they obviously aren't either.
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itix wrote:
Now shall I ask why Hyperion is not credit where credit is due?
Anyway, it doesnt matter.
It is remarkable that Hyperion and KMOS are helping Amiga Inc in their court case. Why? Because Amiga Inc and KMOS are same entity.
The court case is AFAIK closed. This is not a new case, but Genesi filed a motion to "refine" the ruling to in some way include the OS4 too. They have "joined forces" (as you put it) because they wanted to send in an answer to this motion since the case (and any modifications of the ruling) concerns things they all have interest in.
I am mostly curious about seeing Ray A Akey's name on the documents, as he would be one of the managers or "owners" involved. Is he? :-?
Well, it will be interesting to see how things will develop the coming days/weeks. Perhaps it will be possible to reach agreements without "legal force" now? Or perhaps the "battle" will continue, but in another way?
/me hopes for peace though, and fruitful cooperation between all involved. It might all be up to "KMOS" ...
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morley: i got an PDA here with AMIGADE on it , and 20+ games on it , all amiga.inc's ..
whats your point?
remeber guys , the story bbrv told all was "NEW AMIGA CEO GARY HARE" , now is he that now? , who told u that if so?
time to give me the stuff i didnt read in the announcements.
amiga ROXX and so does os4!
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@lempkee
My point is, AmigaDE was supposed to be the "Java" of cellular phones and pda's. It was released, on PocketPC I believe, but it was never a success or money-machine.
The technique of selling out assets/products of a company are often due to two main reasons:
1. Lack of interest or product doesn't fit in current portfolio.
2. The ship is going down, and they want to keep the assets out of the liquidators hands. This could be illegal under certain circumstances.
Make your own opinion.
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But don't get me wrong, I also love the Amiga, but I hate the way faith has gone with the trademark. OS4 is in no doubt an excellent product, but hat shouldn't make A.Inc. the Messias of all amigans.
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amiga ROXX and so does os4!
That may be so, but what about Amiga Inc.?
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morley: well heh big plans fail all over the planet its not like amiga.inc was the first to do so , they had too little money to make something out of it and now i am sure things will start to happen again but then again i am an amigaos fan and thats my main target.
also who said the ship is sinking?? last i checked kmos have put funds into amiga.inc to get past the lawsuits.
also we all assumed that bbrvs only plan was to sue amiga.inc to stall them and try to make em forget about amigaos and so on so that mos could be more pop.
also that said i never was a big fan of amiga.inc itself, but then again i really dont care as long as os4 and its stuff are beeing developed , but sure i personally think os4 should be with amiga and from my point of view it is still as hyperion have showed more than amiga.inc has shown in over 3 years.
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@Bloodline:
Forget about Amiga Inc!!! They sold the only thing thats worth having, now we should be talking about KMOS :-)
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also that said i never was a big fan of amiga.inc itself
That's a u-turn and a half!! :-D
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bloodline wrote:
also that said i never was a big fan of amiga.inc itself
That's a u-turn and a half!! :-D
LOL! :lol: :lol:
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restore2003 wrote:
@Bloodline:
Forget about Amiga Inc!!! They sold the only thing thats worth having, now we should be talking about KMOS :-)
Hey, you are looking at Amiga Inc.'s biggest critic! I'm just finding it really funny how all the Amiga Inc. appologists are jumping ship now that OS4 seems to be nothing to do with them (The best thing that could happen to the OS4 project).
Can't we finally kill Amiga Inc. now?
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bloodline:i doubt i have ever said i like a.inc.
anyway my poiint is..
if the product produced is great do you use it ? or is all of the decsision up to who is leading the company?
i hate windows because its crap , i dont like ms either.
i hate macos but i dont know much about the guys in charge there.
i hate bbrv but mos is quite ok for an clone os.
i hated commodore's top people in the last years of cbm...
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@lempkee
No-one said the ship is sinking, it's just my personal "glance-in-the-crytal-orb". To back up this I did a quick search for KMOS, Gar(r)y Hare and ITec on Google, guess what showed up? Nothing but the postings on several forums and the amiga.com site. This leads me to the followibg conclusion:
1. Gar(r)y Hare and Bill Mc. Even have some sort of connection. I'm sure what btw.
2. Amiga Inc. is insolvent, they don't have offices in Snoqualmie anymore, do they? This is even stated by A. inc. themselves in the court documents.
3. Unknown associate with Bill Mc Even, Gar(r)y, starts a company, or already has a company named KMOS and they transfer the AmigaOS IP to that company. If KMOS is a company with funding, how come they don't have ANY references on the net dated previous to march 2004?
4. Wow, wonder what is going on? Bankruptcy next?
Well, I don't think KMOS will make "peace" and give os4 licensing to all interrested. At least that's my opinion after reading the court documents.
I just hope this will end soon, so the community can focus on OS4 and not legal battles. And IMHO Genesis should also be granted the right to run OS4 on their HW, but I'm sure that'll be the nail in the coffin for Eyetech. So it's not easy to choose side in this complex war. Hope you don't mistake me for some MorphOS enthusiast, I am more of a "OS4 on all PPC platforms" enthusiast.
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takemehomegrandma wrote:
@ Morley
This is how I understand things:
1. The Genesi vs. Amiga Inc case is closed. Genesi won.
2. After the cased closed, Genesi filed a "motion to modify order", to "refine" some of the wordings in the ruling. Note, this is NOT a new case, the case is still closed.
3. Now some Amiga Inc related people filed a lot of *responses* to that motion. This is not an appeal, the case is still closed and settled in the same way as before.
No one is "returning to court with evidence". The case is closed. Or?
Yes the Court did make a motion, but just a motion the case wasnt closed not till the appeal date lapsed. Amiga had 30days to appeal, which they are doing now.
As you can see the court documents have been execpted by the courts!
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If KMOS was normal company they would not bother with Amiga Inc after AmigaOS buyout. Hyperion neither because they dont have valid contract with Amiga Inc anymore. Amiga Inc would not promote AmigaOS either if they were not working on it anymore. Why would Amiga Inc renew Club Amiga membership offer if they werent doing AmigaOS any longer? This announcement is old news already (11 months old).
The peace will come again when this issue settles down. In two weeks we know lot more about this.
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lempkee wrote:
bloodline:i doubt i have ever said i like a.inc.
anyway my poiint is..
if the product produced is great do you use it ? or is all of the decsision up to who is leading the company?
i hate windows because its crap , i dont like ms either.
i hate macos but i dont know much about the guys in charge there.
i hate bbrv but mos is quite ok for an clone os.
i hated commodore's top people in the last years of cbm...
Why don't you share with me the pleasure of saying "Amiga inc. is a worthless 2 bit company run by a truck driver and a technopath, who wasted all the Time and Money that could have been spent on AmigaOS"?
I admire your dedication to the Amgia platform, or rather the "Dead Amiga Clasic" platform to use the useless Amiga Inc. term. But I really have to say that WinXP is not as bad as you seem to think :-o I don't like it but my hatered is an illogical prejudice born of my Amiga Past :-)
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choochy wrote:
takemehomegrandma wrote:
@ Morley
This is how I understand things:
1. The Genesi vs. Amiga Inc case is closed. Genesi won.
2. After the cased closed, Genesi filed a "motion to modify order", to "refine" some of the wordings in the ruling. Note, this is NOT a new case, the case is still closed.
3. Now some Amiga Inc related people filed a lot of *responses* to that motion. This is not an appeal, the case is still closed and settled in the same way as before.
No one is "returning to court with evidence". The case is closed. Or?
Yes the Court did make a motion, but just a motion the case wasnt closed not till the appeal date lapsed. Amiga had 30days to appeal, which they are doing now.
As you can see the court documents have been execpted by the courts!
Where do you see an appeal? I only see this:
RESPONSE filed by Defendant Amiga Inc re 49 MOTION to Modify Order Granting Specific Performance (Shukis, Diana) (Entered: 03/15/2004)
... the documents #52 and forward in the Thendic/Genesi vs. Amiga Inc case, a "Response to motion to modify order" (found in document #49), not an appeal to the final ruling (#48)?
Care to tell me what I am missing, because I only see these people filing some responses to BBRV's letter?
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TMHG is right. That is not an appeal, the court has ruled in Genesis' favor, and Amiga Inc. is _not_ appealing against that.
But Genesis has asked for a specification/addition, in human language, of the courts ruling. This is what A.Inc is responding to. Amiga Inc. seems to have acknowlegded the defeat, but just want's to keep Genesis from grabbing to much.
I have looked through the court documents, and I must say, this is going to be any judge's nightmare 90% of the evidence are withdrawn from public forums...also the contract signed between A.Inc and Genesis really only covers vapor-ware. What a mess.
Is the original written contract between Thendic/Amiga made publically available?
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Suddenly everyone's a lawyer. Yet again. Yawn.
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@Morley
Yes, there's a bigger picture here than what we are allowed to see.
Amiga enters talks with Itec (sounds like "Eyetech", doesn't it?), a company nobody can find any information about. This is then taken over by KMOS, a company nobody can find any references about and has very little information divulged on the press release. Nearly a year later, Amiga Inc announce that they have sold AmigaOS to KMOS. I'm guessing the delay here is due to the talks taking that long, if it really is faked then some digging around should prove or disprove this. Amiga Inc now appear to have funding for the court case, so I believe KMOS does exist and is a separate entity, even if they are somehow linked to Amiga Inc. If KMOS and AI were one and the same, this sudden influx of funding wouldn't have happened.
Hyperion and KMOS would be helping out on the court case as AmigaOS is their product and they need to prove that it is not the same as AmigaDE. This could be made easier by different companies owning DE and OS, which may be another reason for the transfer.
It could be that they are trying to get Genesi out of the equation, and then Amiga Inc and KMOS can merge and/or the rights to AmigaOS can transfer back to Amiga Inc.
Whatever is happening here, the fact that they can afford to fight the court case shows that something good has happened, even if the sudden appearance of KMOS from out of nowhere looks a bit suspicious.
Chris
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well if AmigaOS was purchased by KMOS in April of 2003...who owns it now? I mean this announcement is almost a year late.
also, when is Amiga OS 4 going to be released, maybe its still not too late to release it back in 2001?
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chris wrote:
Once Genesi are out of the equation it is likely that Amiga Inc and KMOS will merge and/or the rights to AmigaOS will transfer back to Amiga Inc.
:-o :-o :-o
IMO, those are wild assumptions! What do you base them on?
I think it's more likely that this action has been taken to either let Amiga Inc focus on their real product (Amiga DE) or arrange a way for them to die without letting OS4 die with them (most likely IMO).
Whatever is happening here, the fact that they can afford to fight the court case shows that something good has happened, even if the sudden appearance of KMOS from out of nowhere looks a bit suspicious.
Chris
There is no case, and the only "fighting" we have seen is sending in some letters in response to another letter from Genesi. FYI, the case has been closed since almost a month now.
Although KMOS came from nowhere, it's no news that Garry Hare entered Amiga Inc a long time ago, and this might be the result of his work.
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Sorry, I was speculating out loud. I think I'll edit that actually, it sounds a bit like I have insider knowledge (which I don't)
Chris
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Morley wrote:
I have looked through the court documents, and I must say, this is going to be any judge's nightmare 90% of the evidence are withdrawn from public forums...also the contract signed between A.Inc and Genesis really only covers vapor-ware. What a mess.
Is the original written contract between Thendic/Amiga made publically available?
Yes, its part of the court documents. I'd also like to point out that Bill McEwens 2nd deposition (Aug 7th) is also part of the court documents where he says that Amiga Inc owns AmigaOS 1.0-3.9. He had early made that claim on April 30th during a deposition as part of the Bolten Case. That according to the new documents they have filed was a lie. Apparently AI was lying as well about their ability to carry out the contract with Thendic as well if I understand Chang's comments correctly. The judge is liable to throw the book at McEwen over these "misrepresentations" that have been carried out.
-Tig
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@tigger
Yep, I found the contract. And IMHO OS4 should be ported to Pegasos ASAP, but that's another story. I also read most of the documents, including McEwens deposition. He claims to have a counterclaim against TAI for dropping support for a lot of platforms for Intent. Perhaps they have settled out of court and AInc has gotten some cash from there? Dunno, just speculations and crap from me.
Anyway, I paid for OS3.9 the other day, maybe thats their new funding :lol:
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Hoya!
BLOODY HELL!!!!!!!!!!!
What the f*ck are they doing???!!!!!
They wanna be screwed up by the whole pegasos armada or what???!!
Time keeps on going by and they just keep on accumulating weird and nonsense-laden operations.
Bugger! Jay Miner and his team, although starting a new concept from scratch, did better and faster than all that bunch of buggers!!!! Fortunately, Hyperion is involved, otherwise I do wonder what would happen...
COME ON GUYS!!!! PEOPLE ARE TURNING TO THE PEGASOS MORE AND MORE! KICK YOUR OWN ARSES AND DO SOMETHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Stop being funky and move yer arse!!!!!!!
M A D (mad)
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lorddef wrote:
well it's made it's way to the register now :
TheRegister (http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/36285.html)
It's on Slashdot too.
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Yah, but The Register got this part wrong.
Meanwhile, it has been polishing off old Amiga games and re-issuing them for the PocketPC platform. Branded as Amiga Anywhere, the games essentially use Amiga DE. According to the company's web site, it's offering a mere 22 titles.
These games are _not_ old amiga games, they are new games, written since they brought out the SDK. I don't think the old Commodore published more than 2 or 3 games for the Amiga. The only one I can think of (and I may be wrong about that) is "A Mind Forever Voyaging", one of the first A1000 games. Anybody know of any others or if even this one was by someone else? The part about Amiga DE and 22 titles is correct though. :-?
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aardvark wrote:
The only one I can think of (and I may be wrong about that) is "A Mind Forever Voyaging", one of the first A1000 games.
Nope. You're thinking of Mindwalker. A Mind Forever Voyaging was an Infocom text adventure released towards the end of that company's life.
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You're right I always get those two confused. :insane:
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lempkee wrote:
last i checked kmos have put funds into amiga.inc to get past the lawsuits.
Where did you check this?
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choochy wrote:
Yes the Court did make a motion, but just a motion the case wasnt closed not till the appeal date lapsed. Amiga had 30days to appeal, which they are doing now.
Where do you see that they're filing an appeal?
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lempkee wrote:
last i checked kmos have put funds into amiga.inc to get past the lawsuits.
What I can`t understand , is why now?
In the latest court docs, Amiga Inc said they sold to Itec last year, so why didn`t they have the money from the sale to go towards legal counsel when they most needed it?
I can`t imagine Bill McEwan selling the OS to them and saying "Ah, just pay me for it when you can afford it"
Maybe Amiga Inc owed money to Itec, and traded the OS as part of a settlement instead of getting taken to court (again!)??
The thing that really gets my goat, is the way they`ve done it. Fleecy`s Q&A now looks like he was taking the p*ss, all that looking forward to the future crap, trying to get everyone to stay on board for a little bit longer..
Then all we get is a short press statement on their website,and no explanation from A.Inc, just shows they couldn`t(and didn`t) really give a crap about their users/customers/followers. :pissed: :ranting: :pissed:
Anyone find it weird that KMOS haven`t said anything yet?, not even a "Hi kommunity,we`re KMOS"
I dunno, it`s best not to think about it. There`s more to life than a white box full of chips and wires. :roll:
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Nothing new here. IIRC, when Gateway first aqcuired the Amiga, they denied it for a while.