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Title: Small notes from the big bash
Post by: uncharted on March 14, 2004, 01:38:31 PM
Here (in no specific order) are my experiences of the Big Bash in short form:-

*Most people got lost on the ring road getting there (Peterborough is not the best laid out or sign posted city) and we were no exception

* We finally arrived a bit late, managing to locate the place by spotting Jurassic Camper’s, erm Jurassic camper :-)

* The_Editor managed to blow up EditChick’s PC with his card yanking exploits.

* EditChick put on a huge and delicious spread, which was perfect because we were starving by the time all the glitches were sorted

* Didn’t see a single crash on any of the A1 systems despite everything that was going on, stability has definitely improved

* Ryu brought along a CD32 for a bit of retro-gaming action

* MikeyMike was the undisputed Speedball 2 champion (although he had to retire early to catch the last train back home)

* Finally got to meet the great Rudei :-) , no fat horses though :-(

* Bar was cheap, very cheap.  It was clear that Bobson had discovered this not long after he arrived :-)

* Mrs Uncharted kindly offered to buy everyone drinks, then asked me for the money :-/

* Linchpin’s car broke down halfway to the show, after much faffing about with the AA, Linch limped home and the rest of the welsh contingent  started out again in MikeAmiga’s (ED-209) car.

* Didn’t get to see Linchy :-(

* Some guy with a really cute Husky puppy won the MicroA1.

* Mrs Uncharted was unimpressed with both Macmiga’s Mac collection (“why would you want 16 of them?”) and also the MicroA1 board (“why are you getting excited over it? it’s tiny”)

* Many many embarrassing pictures of Slackbladder were taken :-D

* MikeAmiga (ED-209) is still the maddest person ever :-)

* Total Amiga 17 was there to buy and is great :-)

* The food was good and the drinks cheap (did I mention that already?)

* Got to play on a couple of AmigaOnes, OS 4 just gets better and better. (I WANT ONE!)

* The due to the glitches, the music was erm...er...yeah. :-p
 
* Good to see everyone again :-)
Title: Re: Small notes from the big bash
Post by: takemehomegrandma on March 14, 2004, 01:45:59 PM
How many people attended?
Title: Re: Small notes from the big bash
Post by: uncharted on March 14, 2004, 02:57:30 PM
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takemehomegrandma wrote:
How many people attended?


This might sound really strange, but I really have no clue. I was occupied the whole time and didn't bother to count, I couldn't even give you an estimate.  Perhaps one of the people who organised it could give numbers.
Title: Re: Small notes from the big bash
Post by: mikeymike on March 14, 2004, 04:00:13 PM
I left quite "early" (well, the presentation hadn't started by 19:30, and I had to get the last train home), and assuming not many others turned up after I left, I'd guess 30 - 50.  Easily 30 people were there, though some people were at the bar, not everyone was in the same room at the same time, so it's hard to guess.

I was the undisputed timekeeping champion as well.  I turned up a day early.  Oops :-D

Ryu would probably have beaten me at Speedball 2 if we had played best of 3 or more :-)

OS4 met my hopes and expectations - nicely responsive, quick to boot (15 seconds at most).  The only real thing to hold it back IMO (other than hardware price) is applications support.  Particularly wrt web browsers.  I didn't play with OS4 for very long, but I didn't find any holes to pick in it.

I walked about 12 sodding miles that day.  I was knackered by the time I got home :-(  Though the stop in a pub for a few hours, drinking Guinness and reading Bram Stoker's Dracula did help :-)

The choice of music appeared to get worse as the evening went on.  I was totally expecting to hear "Daphne and Celeste - Oooh Stick You" by the way things were going.  The guy who was showing quake and doom demos on his A1 should have continued to host the music!  Beastie Boys rocks :-)

What was the presentation like in the end?
Title: Re: Small notes from the big bash
Post by: Skyraker on March 14, 2004, 05:44:27 PM
Dunno, I spent the night in the bar. (Stella at 2 quid a pint)

I reckon there was about 50 -ish there though.
Title: Re: Small notes from the big bash
Post by: cecilia on March 14, 2004, 08:45:40 PM
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* Many many embarrassing pictures of Slackbladder were taken
and these can be found....where????
 :laughing:

seriously, I'd love to put my hands on OS4! Has no one who has it tried ImageFX???? (who didn't see that comin'???)

Kermit is looking for people with OS4 who have installed ImageFX. really.

So, is OS4 stable? can you open a bunch of windows and it doesn't bog down? are there ANY programs on it?? and why not?
were the systems at the show multiboot (with linux)??
is there a nice GUI for switching from one OS to the other when rebooting???
can someone transport me ("Beam me up, Scotty") to an AmigaONE right now so I can see and touch it???? :lol:
Title: Re: Small notes from the big bash
Post by: chris on March 14, 2004, 09:01:55 PM
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cecilia wrote:
seriously, I'd love to put my hands on OS4! Has no one who has it tried ImageFX???? (who didn't see that comin'???)


ImageFX was running and works properly (one of the photos on SEAL's website proves this)

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So, is OS4 stable?


Fairly.  There are a few things that don't work as expected, a few operations which crash.  It's in beta.  This is to be expected.  Overall though it works very well and I didn't see any major problems on any of the show machines.

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can you open a bunch of windows and it doesn't bog down?


The GUIs were drawing faster than my A1200 so I'm guessing yes on this one... but I didn't try it myself.

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are there ANY programs on it??


Only the usual OS stuff.  There are OS4 native apps but these don't come with OS4 of course.

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were the systems at the show multiboot (with linux)??


No.

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is there a nice GUI for switching from one OS to the other when rebooting???


No, although this could happen with a FLB (I think) for Linux.  At the moment you have to break into U-Boot and start Linux manually.

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can someone transport me ("Beam me up, Scotty") to an AmigaONE right now so I can see and touch it???? :lol:


You can come and look at mine any time you want. :-)  Bring the OS4 install CD with you. :love:

Chris
Title: Re: Small notes from the big bash
Post by: cecilia on March 14, 2004, 09:33:57 PM
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chris wrote:

ImageFX was running and works properly (one of the photos on SEAL's website proves this)

great! if you know who this person is can you get them to contact Kermit? PM me if you like.

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can someone transport me ("Beam me up, Scotty") to an AmigaONE right now so I can see and touch it???? :lol:


You can come and look at mine any time you want. :-)  Bring the OS4 install CD with you. :love:

Chris
ok, if a miracle happens and I can travel AND find OS4, then it's deal!  :lol:
Title: Re: Small notes from the big bash
Post by: Linchpin on March 14, 2004, 10:37:21 PM
Hey - yeah i made it home... JUST!

Damm thing - got about 100 miles and the clutch cable snapped - grr made the sensible decision and headed home, drove all the way with no clutch - not easy :-)

Sorry again to the lads for not making it there, i had a good go tho ...

And the AA ? Useless.

Oh well im off to bed.

Linchy :-)
Title: Re: Small notes from the big bash
Post by: bloodline on March 14, 2004, 10:52:38 PM
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LinchpiN wrote:

Damm thing - got about 100 miles and the clutch cable snapped - grr made the sensible decision and headed home, drove all the way with no clutch - not easy :-)



um... how does one drive a car without a cluch?
Title: Re: Small notes from the big bash
Post by: Cyberus on March 14, 2004, 11:00:05 PM
I beleive its possible to change gear if the revs are right - difficult to do, more so if you have a quiet engine
Title: Re: Small notes from the big bash
Post by: Ryu on March 14, 2004, 11:05:37 PM
yup it is, get the revs high and bang it through the gears.
Title: Re: Small notes from the big bash
Post by: Bobsonsirjonny on March 14, 2004, 11:30:20 PM
It was a big {bleep} 2 litre job... He could rev it hi and slam it into 5th gear from 1st... Modern Gear box's are more fogiving#.. though I hope his is alright.

It was a damn nice car, and Linchpin, we missed your company.


http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=3733&forum=4&6

That is our tail of trouble... But it was a mission :-)


# - according to the mechanic.. I know bog all about cars.
Title: Re: Small notes from the big bash
Post by: amigamad on March 15, 2004, 12:08:46 AM
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um... how does one drive a car without a cluch?


you have to force it into gear or try to keep a reasonable speed ive had a cable snap on me i had to park the car in a car park which was fun and get a cable from halfords only took 10 minutes to change so easy on a mk2 cavalier. i bet it isnt on my mk3 though not much space with the v6.
Title: Re: Small notes from the big bash
Post by: Linchpin on March 15, 2004, 09:33:07 AM
Problem is - wasnt the actual cable that snapped.. as we found out :-)

Was actually a little teeny plastic clip hinge thing that hook's onto the back of the clutch cable.

Basicaly had to stop the car, put it into 1st gear and started it up, hopping down the road. Pull it out of gear, then rev it up to about 5000 rpm, let the rev's drop slowly and gently ease it into gear. Basically you need to get the engine speed equal to the speed of the clutch and it kinda, goes into gear. Not good for the car tho, hence why i gave up and went home.

Git.
Title: Re: Small notes from the big bash
Post by: Linchpin on March 15, 2004, 09:34:22 AM
BTW...

<- that is the culprit! :-)
Title: Re: Small notes from the big bash
Post by: Ferry on March 15, 2004, 09:54:18 AM

Cyberus & Odin,

Quite off-topic but anyway, THANK YOU VERY MUCH for your avatar and your support to Spanish people. It has been horrendous.... :'¬(

Saluditos from Spain.

Ferrán
Title: Re: Small notes from the big bash
Post by: Linchpin on March 15, 2004, 02:10:16 PM
Anyway.. back OT.

bobson, mike, you guys have a good bash?!?!?

ps ryu sorry i didnt reply to your text - phone is buggered lol
Title: Re: Small notes from the big bash
Post by: amigamad on March 15, 2004, 02:45:05 PM
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Was actually a little teeny plastic clip hinge


To much use of plastic these days . :-?
Title: Re: Small notes from the big bash
Post by: Linchpin on March 15, 2004, 02:57:31 PM
Yeah - apparently a common problem with it. Hopefully the replacement cable will have a Metal clip on it not a plastic one.

You would think the people that design this sorta thing take it into concideration that the car is designed to be driven for more that 2 years...
Title: Re: Small notes from the big bash
Post by: jd997uk on March 15, 2004, 03:09:01 PM
@Cecilia

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ImageFX was running and works properly (one of the photos on SEAL's website proves this)


This is news that I wanted to here. It would be great if someone can burn test IFX on OS4. ie push it really hard. I'd imagine it would work the 68k emulation to the limit, a good acid test.

Does anyone know who the owner of that particular AmigaOne is? Details are required: what version of IFX is it? Does (s)he have the PPC modules installed. etc

-john
Title: Re: Small notes from the big bash
Post by: Vincent on March 16, 2004, 01:58:24 PM
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uncharted wrote:
* Finally got to meet the great Rudei :-) , no fat horses though :-(

Dang, did he start any turkey sarnie fights? :-D
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* Mrs Uncharted kindly offered to buy everyone drinks, then asked me for the money :-/

:lol:  Good lass (and good looking too ;-) )
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* Mrs Uncharted was unimpressed with both Macmiga?s Mac collection (?why would you want 16 of them??) and also the MicroA1 board (?why are you getting excited over it? it?s tiny?)

:lol: size does matter!
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* Many many embarrassing pictures of Slackbladder were taken :-D

To quote ED-209: "linky linky link link" :-D
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* Got to play on a couple of AmigaOnes, OS 4 just gets better and better. (I WANT ONE!)

Don't we all :-)
Title: Re: Small notes from the big bash
Post by: Linchpin on March 16, 2004, 02:55:05 PM
When its ready.
Title: Re: Small notes from the big bash
Post by: rhino on March 16, 2004, 03:39:45 PM
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Does anyone know who the owner of that particular AmigaOne is? Details are required: what version of IFX is it? Does (s)he have the PPC modules installed. etc


It was my AmigaOne (XE-G4@800MHz). ImageFX version 4.5 was running without PPC modules (these need PowerUP IIRC so they won't run on OS 4 ATM).

I've only had my A1 a couple of weeks so I don't have much experience but IFX seems to run reliably. If you look closely at the image of the screenshot on our site you'll notice that the file loaded (a Total Amiga cover) is a big layered image (about 25Mb all told) and that worked without problems.

@cecilia

I've already contacted Kermit and hope to be able to help him out.

HTH

Robert
Title: Re: Small notes from the big bash
Post by: Vincent on March 16, 2004, 04:25:21 PM
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LinchpiN wrote:
ps ryu sorry i didnt reply to your text - phone is buggered lol


Everything happens in three's:

1) your A1200 probs
2) your car probs
3) your phone probs

Plain sailing from here on then :-D
Title: Re: Small notes from the big bash
Post by: cecilia on March 16, 2004, 05:06:22 PM
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rhino wrote:
I've only had my A1 a couple of weeks so I don't have much experience but IFX seems to run reliably.

@cecilia

I've already contacted Kermit and hope to be able to help him out.
cool!  8-)

don't forget my "famous" articles and HowTo's:

PNG in IFX (http://www.morphzone.org/modules/mydownloads/singlefile.php?lid=104)

Gif saving in IFX (http://www.morphzone.org/modules/mydownloads/singlefile.php?lid=117)

KeyFrame Manager in IFX (http://www.morphzone.org/modules/mydownloads/singlefile.php?lid=120)

the last 2 will link to my site and that's where you can access my old (but still useful) articles that were published by New NewTekniques mag.  :-P