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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Tutorials => Topic started by: Aniway on January 01, 2003, 07:08:55 PM
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Ok, all I was stuck with was a SupraFAX 28.8 baud
modem, but I just got this HSI (High Speed Internet)
hookup through my cable company for myself and my
roommate.
I have an Amiga, he has a PC. I got him hooked up
first, and that was the easier of the two ;)
So there he was with the fastest residential data
throughput known on the planet, twice as fast as
phone line DSL. It was amazing. Pages came up
so fast, I just had to get this set up on my Amiga!
But I found that I couldn't just string a phone line
in to the other room from my modem to his ethernet
and expect a connection that way, and I didn't want
to get yet another modem for my Amiga and run that
from my own cable wire to my Amiga.
So I settled on an option where I only needed one cable modem.
I got a reasonably-priced Internet Router (that makes
a Local Area Network (LAN)) off eBay, the TRENDnet
Cable Broadband Router,
equipped with far more than I needed, for under 50 USD.
With this device, I could connect 253 computers
to the same cable modem and have them as a Network,
using up to 4 ports, but I only needed a total of two computers
in this Network. As a bonus, this device functions as
a firewall that "protect [my] computer from hackers."
This lay around the house for about a month while I
discovered that regular phone line was insufficient
to connect computer to Router.
Then I contacted Software Hut to get some information
on what I needed, which was an Ethernet card for my
A4000. I got an X-Surf that came with a CD-ROM. It
was easy to install, although the connectors in the
rear required explaining. From reading the manual,
I learned that there were only two types of wiring
that were practical for me to use, called Twisted Pair
wiring. I got some of that at a local PC store.
I don't know if it was "crossover" or "patch" (1:1),
it looks just like regular ethernet line to me, except yellow,
but I think it may work as patch, because it has the same
dimension as the wire that came with the Router that
connects to the cable modem.
This ethernet cord plugs into an outlet that looks
like a standard phone outlet, and my Internet Router/Switch
has 4 + 1 outlets for that sort of wire.
One outlet connects from cable modem to Router.
The other four can connect four computer systems
via ethernet, using TP "patch" ethernet wire, or a total
of two computers using TP "crossover" cable.
Here was where I got stuck, until I can complete
my installation (please email me at
if you can help and I can finish this chronicle once
I get this setup working):
After setting up the software and getting the green light on my router
for computer #2 (Amiga), I found that even though GENESIS said I was
connected, that none of my applications would do anything other than
play dead and pretend that there was no connection or TCP stack.
Incidentally, I had to change the name of Genesis_RA to "Genesis" so
the supplied CDROM software would recognize the name.
Miami seems to do everything better, so I dropped Genesis
and went straight for Miami. Without bothering to use
MiamiInit, I disabled my dialer numbers, erased my
username & password, and went to the Interface
window. There, I chose SANA II - ETHERNET because
I was using X-Surf Ethernet Card. I had to input
the driver info by hand, and that was the "x-surf.device".
I chose "DHCP" for the IP configurations so Miami
could find those out on its own. As for the
SANA-II parameters, I clicked on that and chose the
Query Device -> OK sequence.
Next, I had to go into the TCP/IP settings and
coordinate with the X-Surf Ethernet Software.
So this entails running the X-Surf software
configuration from the CD-ROM, or from the software
on the support site. I chose my computer to be
"computer3". So in order for Miami to find the
Gateway, I had to plug "computer3" as the "host name"
value in this TCP/IP window of Miami. I was using
Miami 3.x, unregistered, because I lost my key when I
lost my hard drive, and Miami's author apparently doesn't
want to do any more support(?) Also, I had to check the
box for "Use DHCP" and of course customize the look of
the username and the usual frills.
My biggest problem was that nothing mentioned using the
"computer3" for the "host name". There was also
a little confusion about the NetFS Configuration:
Was computer3 computer "2" (0,1,2) or "3"? So I set
both 2 and 3, since I only need to use one of them,
and that has worked out.
The X-Surf software installs easy, and I don't think that
should give anyone any problems.
So, there you have it. All you need to get up
and running with HSI:
* Amiga 4000 system or 1200 w/ CD-ROM
* HSI Cable Internet
* Amiga Ethernet Card (such as X-Surf)
- installation software
* Patch TP wiring (long enough to reach the Router)
* Internet Router/Switch Hub for LAN
-Only one cable modem for up to 4 Computers
* Miami 3.x (or Genesis)
* A hard drive with lots of space for the new
downloads
* Web browser, such as Voyager or IBrowse (I tested
these) or Aweb. I got Voyager from the Netconnect3
package from Software Hut (USA).
Please let me know if this helps anyone =)
ANIWAY
[Final Edit]
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Aniway,
I work for an outsource company and have support three different broadband networks. Here at home, I have a network behind a router. I have 3 PCs and 2 Amigas on the network.
Most broadband routers do not use cross over cables. Crossover cables are designed to hook up one computer directly to another without a hub. You should hook up normal CAT5 cables from the modem to the router and router to the computers. Of course, this depends on what the router docs say.
I would advise you to set your Amiga static to the router's IPs. Also be sure and set the DNS servers.
Once hooked up and your network stack is running, test it by pinging the router's IP from the Amiga, then pinging a name site and if needed IP. Yahoo.com works great since it responds to pings. If you can ping it's IP but not it's name, it means there is a DNS setting problem.
I'm on most of the IMs, feel free to msg me if you need help.
Aim: AndreaTek
Yahoo: Tekoneiric
MSN: Tekoneiric
ICQ: 103744551
Andrea
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I agere with what Tekoneiric is saying on the setup, AmiTCP has problems doing DHCP connects. I would add though that you need to do the same for your roommates PC(s), set it with a static IP to the router so you know there are no conflicting IP issues.
Knowing the router model might help us help you. I've used a LinkSYS BSRF41 to connect 3 PCs, 2 Amigas and a Power MAC. Now using a Linux server, I built for less than the cost of the router, to act as my gateway. With the added bonus of having a full server and not having to deal with the ISP for my web pages.
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I have a Nokia M1122 ADSL modem/router here to which I have my A4000
connected along with my flatmate's windows boxes.
You might need to look at the way the router is set up to know how to
connect to it. Most routers have web interfaces, so you set them up
via web browser.
Our router is set up to use DHCP, but I'm using MiamiDX which does it
no problem.
You're probably better to use static IP addresses on your LAN, which I
prefer for many reasons. But my whiney windows driven flatmate
insists on using DHCP. It's nicer for windows, and that's about it.
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Instant messaging & my amiga just don't seem
to work out .
But I am interested in how to get the Gateway
address to plug into Miami. I have both Miami and
Genesis available. The Amitcp: was my mistake, earlier =)
Aniway
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Why not use the DHCP? It seems to work okay for me :)
Aniway