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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Marketplace => Topic started by: madgrizzle on January 06, 2018, 12:06:57 AM
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So, are Indivision ECS/OCS not being made any more? I see out-of-stock, t.b.a, etc. from various online stores. Individual Computers still make other versions, just not sure what is up with the ECS/OCS version.
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I don't think anyone here is going to know that. Jens makes new production runs periodically, they come in and out of stock, just keep your eye open, I suppose. Or you could try emailing him. ;)
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Thanks.. didn't know if there was a story about them or not.
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According to their Christmas Message (https://icomp.de/shop-icomp/en/33/items/merry-christmas-from-team-icomp.html), there will be new Indivision ECS units.
Regards,
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I really hope they will come at a time when I have the money to spare. I have been searching high and low for one of those, for the last 3 months.
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I emailed them and they told me it won't be under 100 euros because some parts are no longer being made. I assume that means a redesign.
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I emailed them and they told me it won't be under 100 euros because some parts are no longer being made. I assume that means a redesign.
It was always around that price. Lowest I ever saw it was $92 USD, but that was a couple years ago. Obviously various exchange rates apply, etc.
Amiga is not a cheap hobby. :laughing:
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Amiga is not a cheap hobby. :laughing:
You can say that again! But hey, if you own a money tree, here's an IndiECS out of Germany, including shipping, that will only set you back about $400.00 USD! I'm considering keeping my Miggy gear in safety deposit boxes! :laugh1:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Indivision-fur-Commodore-Amiga-500-600-2000/391965849461?hash=item5b42fc3775:g:79EAAOSwcN1aZIyw (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Indivision-fur-Commodore-Amiga-500-600-2000/391965849461?hash=item5b42fc3775:g:79EAAOSwcN1aZIyw)
Notice how everything sells in EUR, or better yet, BP for maximum exchange rate profit!? :hammer: Oh well, that's what happens when we have a strong dollar here at home.
(https://www.ebay.com/itm/Indivision-fur-Commodore-Amiga-500-600-2000/391965849461?hash=item5b42fc3775:g:79EAAOSwcN1aZIyw)
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Notice how everything sells in EUR, or better yet, BP for maximum exchange rate profit!? :hammer: Oh well, that's what happens when we have a strong dollar here at home.
Actually the dollar is weaker which is why it takes more dollars to buy something priced in other currencies. If it took $100 USD to buy something priced at €100 before and it takes $125 USD to buy the same priced thing today, the dollar is worth less than it was before ie weaker.
Postage is actually what is cutting into my overseas purchases now more than currency exchange rates. Shipping from some European countries seems to have skyrocketed lately, especially for heavy packages of Amiga hardware :(
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Correct, the dollar is weaker on the foreign market. Our dollar is stronger buying domestic products though say like lumber and such. As our stock market increases, which it has dramatically and very quickly, the dollar skids on the foreign banks. Just ask anyone in the military right now, it’s killing them as they can only afford to buy on base. I lived in Japan and Korea for 5 years and we would pray for the US stock market to take a dive so that we could buy more Japans and Korean domestic goods - like food & of course, electronics! The US military overseas would let everyone know first thing in the morning if the USD was going to slide, even for a day or two, go buy more YEN! Of course, with global computer networks, the exchange rate changes from minute to minute! Oh and yeah, shipping is a real killer! Even US eBay sellers gouge the crap out of you! Charge an exorbitant shipping rate and then send it USPS. :hammer:
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Notice how everything sells in EUR, or better yet, BP for maximum exchange rate profit!? :hammer: Oh well, that's what happens when we have a strong dollar here at home.
Within the EU people will usually sell in their own currency. With a strong dollar it's better for you, because you can usually buy from the EU cheaper than you can buy from home.
Except Trump puts high import duty on you, while giving tax breaks to his friends..... Keep on filling that swamp.
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Within the EU people will usually sell in their own currency. With a strong dollar it's better for you, because you can usually buy from the EU cheaper than you can buy from home.
Except Trump puts high import duty on you, while giving tax breaks to his friends..... Keep on filling that swamp.
We dont need this Trump bashing crap here please. I come here to get away from that crap, not more of it.
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We dont need this Trump bashing crap here please. I come here to get away from that crap, not more of it.
Hear, hear! Same on the Facebook group...tired of everything turning into the same old political %&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@! show, instead of being focused on Amiga.
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We dont need this Trump bashing crap here please. I come here to get away from that crap, not more of it.
Well the import tax was relevant, but I apologise for taking it further.
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With a strong dollar it's better for you, because you can usually buy from the EU cheaper than you can buy from home.
Just the opposite my friend!
Even though the US stock market climbs higher everyday, our USD buys less and less of the BP and EUR everyday!
9 months ago the exchange rate between the BP and the EUR was damn near at parity with the USD. Good time to buy euro goods on ebay.
Today the exchange rate with the EUR is .80 EUR to 1 USD. The exchange rate with the BP is .70 BP for 1 USD. Personally, I'm not going to buy anything euro on ebay at this time.
That's what brings European investment back to the US! :)
I'm gonna invest and spend my USD right here in the good 'ole USA! :laugh1:
(The only thing that stinks is that we don't manufacture damn near anything here in the US anymore - but hopefully that will change). Look at Samsung and LG... they get a 50% US tariff slapped on them so what did they do? They are both building 1/2 billion dollar manufacturing plants here in the US!
You can watch the exchange rates right here everyday. I do!
http://www.x-rates.com/calculator/
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(The only thing that stinks is that we don't manufacture damn near anything here in the US anymore - but hopefully that will change)
Yeahhh, those jobs ain't coming back, buddy. :( :( :( Although for my part, I'd love to see more high tech items manufactured over here and would certainly buy them if given the choice.
I could use some computer parts from the EU right now; the parts are $20 bucks but shipping is close to $30. Guess no computer parts for me, y'all need to stop hoarding all the good stuff over there!
Also, this thread is really going off topic now. :lol:
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Even though the US stock market climbs higher everyday, our USD buys less and less of the BP and EUR everyday!
You were saying the dollar was strong, from what you're saying now it's weak. Foreign investors need to buy US dollars to buy stock, if the US dollars are cheap then that makes the stock cheaper for them than investing in their own country but creates demand and so the price will go up (although it may or not make up for the value lost in currency).
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Oh, and don't forget to check the exchange rate between the German Merkeljammer and the USD daily! :)
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Today the exchange rate with the EUR is .80 EUR to 1 USD. The exchange rate with the BP is .70 BP for 1 USD. Personally, I'm not going to buy anything euro on ebay at this time.
That's what brings European investment back to the US! :)
I'm gonna invest and spend my USD right here in the good 'ole USA! :laugh1:
Maybe that's what the speach in Davo was for. Overseas investment.
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Maybe that's what the speach in Davo was for. Overseas investment.
That's exactly what it was!
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You can say that again! But hey, if you own a money tree, here's an IndiECS out of Germany, including shipping, that will only set you back about $400.00 USD! I'm considering keeping my Miggy gear in safety deposit boxes! :laugh1:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Indivision-fur-Commodore-Amiga-500-600-2000/391965849461?hash=item5b42fc3775:g:79EAAOSwcN1aZIyw (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Indivision-fur-Commodore-Amiga-500-600-2000/391965849461?hash=item5b42fc3775:g:79EAAOSwcN1aZIyw)
Notice how everything sells in EUR, or better yet, BP for maximum exchange rate profit!? :hammer: Oh well, that's what happens when we have a strong dollar here at home.
Talk about insane inflation there.... NO I am not talking about national currencies or anything. Am am talking about inflation on Amiga hardware alone. That price!!!! :furious:
More than doubled in less than 3 month's. Individual computers sold the last one at a price of 99 euro, in like late november of 2017 or something.
No wonder that Jens will make new ones, and have stated that it is stupid to go second hand at those prices. Yea, yeah.... Shure it is not avaliable new anymore. Just to have the guts to ask that price. Wow... Talk about the corpse not being cold, before starting to pick the bones. :furious:
I would say that aprox 120 euro would be a decent price for the next model, or perhaps even 140 euro. Paying 295 euro for a used one is just plain old insane.
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Some desperate dope will pay it. Fool and his money...
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We dont need this Trump bashing crap here please. I come here to get away from that crap, not more of it.
Yeah I second that. Save the bs political talk for elsewhere. Make America Great Again!
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Yeah I second that. Save the bs political talk for elsewhere. Make America Great Again!
Busy making my Amiga great. Again :P
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hahahah thats all of us!