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Title: GBS 8200 scandoubler USD$5 Free post
Post by: guest20923 on November 01, 2017, 01:25:46 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-HD-Game-Converter-Board-CGA-RGB-YUV-EGA-to-VGA-GBS-8220-Promotion/253235239093?hash=item3af5ff18b5:g:XUcAAOSw28FZyzgJ

:)
Title: Re: GBS 8200 scandoubler USD$5 Free post
Post by: LoadWB on November 02, 2017, 01:08:22 AM
Thanks!

While I did get one of the 8200s with a lot of problems, in general I have had good results from Gonbes.  The 8220s for ~$5 are worth stocking up.
Title: Re: GBS 8200 scandoubler USD$5 Free post
Post by: Acill on November 02, 2017, 01:31:54 PM
I got one just to try it out. For $5 with free shipping you cant go wrong.

new link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-HD-Game-Converter-Board-CGA-RGB-YUV-EGA-to-VGA-GBS-8220-Promotion-/253238748439?
Title: Re: GBS 8200 scandoubler USD$5 Free post
Post by: klx300r on November 02, 2017, 02:58:28 PM
Quote from: Acill;832521
I got one just to try it out. For $5 with free shipping you cant go wrong.

new link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-HD-Game-Converter-Board-CGA-RGB-YUV-EGA-to-VGA-GBS-8220-Promotion-/253238748439?

+1, & honestly how the heck can north american companies compete with this :insane: In Canada now they want to raise the minimum wage yet again so this $5 with free shipping product from China will cost 10 times that + shipping ! I know health & safety, taxes, insurance, crazy unions etc. but it's a global market and competition will dictate who will survive all that aside.
Title: Re: GBS 8200 scandoubler USD$5 Free post
Post by: ddniUK on November 02, 2017, 04:27:17 PM
Grabbed two. No immediate need for them, but at that price...!
Title: Re: GBS 8200 scandoubler USD$5 Free post
Post by: David Wright on November 02, 2017, 04:48:30 PM
Quote from: klx300r;832523
+1, & honestly how the heck can north american companies compete with this :insane: In Canada now they want to raise the minimum wage yet again so this $5 with free shipping product from China will cost 10 times that + shipping ! I know health & safety, taxes, insurance, crazy unions etc. but it's a global market and competition will dictate who will survive all that aside.

That's why we need trade agreements. Most companies in the west aren't playing on a even field. They are forced to comply and actually pay good wages but not for others.
Title: Re: GBS 8200 scandoubler USD$5 Free post
Post by: klx300r on November 02, 2017, 07:29:20 PM
Quote from: David Wright;832525
That's why we need trade agreements. Most companies in the west aren't playing on a even field. They are forced to comply and actually pay good wages but not for others.

yes they are forced to comply, pay good wages then they in turn must increase their prices and in doing so are no longer competitive..thats the Catch 22 !
Title: Re: GBS 8200 scandoubler USD$5 Free post
Post by: UberFreak on November 02, 2017, 07:34:18 PM
The sale title says 'GBS-8220' but if you look at the pictures, you'll see on the PCB 'GBS-8200 V4.0'.

Isn't the 8200 an older model?
Title: Re: GBS 8200 scandoubler USD$5 Free post
Post by: LoadWB on November 02, 2017, 08:16:07 PM
The 8220 is a dual-output board, the 8200 is single.  For my purposes, and for $5.98, it doesn't really matter to me.
Title: Re: GBS 8200 scandoubler USD$5 Free post
Post by: midway on November 02, 2017, 10:43:56 PM
Thats a pretty good offer. I dont like the lag it has and the artefact generated around moving objects. Has anyone connected his Amiga to a projector which can display native 15 khz screens?
Title: Re: GBS 8200 scandoubler USD$5 Free post
Post by: LoadWB on November 03, 2017, 02:29:39 AM
Quote from: midway;832533
Thats a pretty good offer. I dont like the lag it has and the artefact generated around moving objects. Has anyone connected his Amiga to a projector which can display native 15 khz screens?


Interesting.  I had not noticed that problem.  I will have to check that out.

My projector has S-Video and composite inputs, so it is possible it will sync down to 15kHz but I have never tried.  Probably because I also do not have a DB23 to DB15 adapter to try. Bummer.
Title: Re: GBS 8200 scandoubler USD$5 Free post
Post by: skolman on November 03, 2017, 03:19:33 PM
it looks like a scam.
Title: Re: GBS 8200 scandoubler USD$5 Free post
Post by: ddniUK on November 05, 2017, 09:40:50 AM
Possibly. My two have been updated as shipped, they are expected to be delivered 12th Dec. Lets see.
Any issues then it is all through eBay and PayPal so I am not too concerned.
Title: Re: GBS 8200 scandoubler USD$5 Free post
Post by: Acill on November 05, 2017, 03:16:58 PM
Quote from: ddniUK;832610
Possibly. My two have been updated as shipped, they are expected to be delivered 12th Dec. Lets see.
Any issues then it is all through eBay and PayPal so I am not too concerned.


Same, mine shipped according to ebay. If they dont come I just file a claim and get the $5 back.
Title: Re: GBS 8200 scandoubler USD$5 Free post
Post by: amiga999 on December 15, 2017, 07:38:32 PM
So I've been pretty patient, just wondering if anyone's gotten theirs yet.

Ebay says:

Estimated delivery Mon, Nov 20 - Fri, Dec 22
     This item has been shipped.


In the internet age, a month seems like forever.  8-)
Title: Re: GBS 8200 scandoubler USD$5 Free post
Post by: LoadWB on December 16, 2017, 12:42:16 AM
Nope.  I'll wait until the 23rd and get eBay to refund me.
Title: Re: GBS 8200 scandoubler USD$5 Free post
Post by: Acill on December 16, 2017, 01:59:45 AM
Not a sign of mine yet.
Title: Re: GBS 8200 scandoubler USD$5 Free post
Post by: amiga999 on December 16, 2017, 03:08:42 AM
Some of the feedback for geraldet55 doesn't look so good...


FeedbackFromWhen(https://securepics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/icon/iconNeg_16x16.gif)Fraudulent Seller. Avoid. Scammer. Nothing but useless promises. ScamBuyer: -***e  ( 620(https://securepics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/icon/iconPurpleStar_25x25.gif))  
During past month ----Private(https://securepics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/icon/iconNeu_16x16.gif)I didn't receive the item. Please refund my cash.Buyer: .***t  ( 2 )  
During past month ----Private(https://securepics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/icon/iconPos_16x16.gif)Thanks Buyer: _***r  ( 741(https://securepics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/icon/iconPurpleStar_25x25.gif))  
During past month ----Private(https://securepics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/icon/iconPos_16x16.gif)awesome Buyer: c***a  ( 44(https://securepics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/icon/iconYellowStar_25x25.gif))  
During past month ----Private(https://securepics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/icon/iconNeg_16x16.gif)not arrived zero communication refund from ebay  Buyer: x***x  ( 523(https://securepics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/icon/iconPurpleStar_25x25.gif))  
During past month ----Private(https://securepics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/icon/iconNeg_16x16.gif)Item did not arrive. :(Buyer: g***g  ( 70(https://securepics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/icon/iconBlueStar_25x25.gif))  
During past month ----Private(https://securepics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/icon/iconNeg_16x16.gif)Item did not arrive. :(Buyer: g***g  ( 70(https://securepics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/icon/iconBlueStar_25x25.gif))  
During past month ----Private(https://securepics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/icon/iconPos_16x16.gif)Recommend itBuyer: d***k  ( 157(https://securepics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/icon/iconTealStar_25x25.gif))  
During past month ----Private(https://securepics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/icon/iconNeg_16x16.gif)item not receive Scammer  UNHaPPY Buyer: q***l  ( 32(https://securepics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/icon/iconYellowStar_25x25.gif))  
During past month ----Private(https://securepics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/icon/iconNeg_16x16.gif)It's Been  month and the seller hasn't communicated or sent a tracking #Buyer: c***c  ( 304(https://securepics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/icon/iconTealStar_25x25.gif))  
During past month ----Private(https://securepics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/icon/iconPos_16x16.gif)Good seller, I recommend itBuyer: r***-  ( 269(https://securepics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/icon/iconTealStar_25x25.gif))  
During past month
Title: Re: GBS 8200 scandoubler USD$5 Free post
Post by: klx300r on December 16, 2017, 03:28:02 AM
Quote from: amiga999;834138
So I've been pretty patient, just wondering if anyone's gotten theirs yet.

Ebay says:

Estimated delivery Mon, Nov 20 - Fri, Dec 22
     This item has been shipped.
In the internet age, a month seems like forever.  8-)

nothing here either but I don't mind waiting unless there's a time limit to get money back ??
Title: Re: GBS 8200 scandoubler USD$5 Free post
Post by: LoadWB on December 16, 2017, 03:38:25 AM
Quote from: klx300r;834144
nothing here either but I don't mind waiting unless there's a time limit to get money back ??


If you don't receive it from the seller you can file a claim against him and eBay will investigate.

If I click on the "I didn't receive it" not and I get this:

"It looks like your item is on its way and should arrive by Dec 22, 2017. If you don’t receive it by then, please contact the seller or come back to us so we can help you."
Title: Re: GBS 8200 scandoubler USD$5 Free post
Post by: nyteschayde on December 16, 2017, 08:16:14 PM
I tried to buy one of these twice. The first time my order was refunded due to it being "broken" in the warehouse. Second time, no response.
Title: Re: GBS 8200 scandoubler USD$5 Free post
Post by: LoadWB on December 17, 2017, 12:00:32 AM
Yeah, I noticed it's been relisted something like every other day, as well, up to about a couple of weeks ago.

I'm disappointed that it might be a scam.  Well, if something seems too good to be true...
Title: Re: GBS 8200 scandoubler USD$5 Free post
Post by: LoadWB on December 23, 2017, 10:01:09 PM
Submitted my demand for refund today.

"If you don't hear back by Jan. 2, or if there's a problem, you can ask us to step in and help on that day."

Bummer. Ah, well.  I'll be able to put that $24 to other uses :)
Title: Re: GBS 8200 scandoubler USD$5 Free post
Post by: LoadWB on January 02, 2018, 06:15:15 PM
Today from eBay:

"Unfortunately, we didn't receive valid tracking information from the seller. We're sorry you had a problem with your purchase.

We issued you a full refund of US $23.92 on Jan 2, 2018 to your PayPal account. The refund includes the purchase price plus original shipping."
Title: Re: GBS 8200 scandoubler USD$5 Free post
Post by: ddniUK on January 02, 2018, 06:21:08 PM
No sign of mine yet either. Will wait till end of the week before filing a claim.
Title: Re: GBS 8200 scandoubler USD$5 Free post
Post by: guest21274 on January 03, 2018, 02:33:15 AM
The feedback profile on this seller is pretty bad.

Glad I didn't order.
Title: Re: GBS 8200 scandoubler USD$5 Free post
Post by: johnklos on January 03, 2018, 04:13:56 AM
Considering comparable boards are around $20 to $25 USD, I'd skip the shady $5 one and go for one of the others.

Here's some more information:
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=123399.0 (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=123399.0)

And here:
https://ianstedman.wordpress.com/gbs-82xx-experiments/ (https://ianstedman.wordpress.com/gbs-82xx-experiments/)

The second link is interesting. It says that by replacing a single capacitor (on the V4 8200) and adding a 680 ohm resistor, you'll have a pretty good scandoubler for the Amiga. Not bad!

Now if I could just find a good way to connect a sync-on-green output from a VAXstation to a modern monitor, I'd be happy :)
Title: Re: GBS 8200 scandoubler USD$5 Free post
Post by: LoadWB on January 03, 2018, 04:31:24 AM
Nice on that second link, thank you!

Good bit from that article:

"The GBS-8200 board drew a maximum of 0.4A"

Means it can be USB powered from a good USB power source. :)
Title: Re: GBS 8200 scandoubler USD$5 Free post
Post by: johnklos on January 03, 2018, 05:08:04 AM
Quote from: LoadWB;834642
"The GBS-8200 board drew a maximum of 0.4A"

Means it can be USB powered from a good USB power source. :)


I think people sometimes have power supplies that don't put out enough power, but I think more often people have cables which are too long, too thin, or both, so even when something's connected to a 1 or 2 amp power source, the device still doesn't get the voltage it expects.

Some complaints about power may be related to the capacitor that's recommended to be swapped.
Title: Re: GBS 8200 scandoubler USD$5 Free post
Post by: midway on January 03, 2018, 06:40:46 AM
How many volts does this need again? Tried.to.start mine and.didnt.work
Title: Re: GBS 8200 scandoubler USD$5 Free post
Post by: johnklos on January 03, 2018, 07:01:27 AM
Quote from: midway;834644
How many volts does this need again? Tried.to.start mine and.didnt.work


Five.
Title: Re: GBS 8200 scandoubler USD$5 Free post
Post by: LoadWB on January 03, 2018, 12:20:10 PM
Big problem with USB power sources is even at 400mA some will drop voltage.  I have seen ones rated for 5V 1A which go down to 3.75V at 700mA.

I have a few well-built ones which will provide 5.01V or better at 1500mA draw.  I use these for power sources, with appropriate barrel connectors, for various things around: Sega Genesis HD, CF7+ and nanoPEB (TI,) Atari 130XE, etc.
Title: Re: GBS 8200 scandoubler USD$5 Free post
Post by: amiga999 on January 15, 2018, 01:45:18 AM
I looked at ebay today and saw that geraldet55 is no longer a registered user.

           User ID geraldet55 (https://www.ebay.com/usr/geraldet55) (Feedback score -6 (http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=geraldet55&ftab=AllFeedback&myworld=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2050430.m2531.l4585))
No longer a registered user

so that did it, I sent ebay a customer service "didn't receive an item" and got a reply within about 2 minutes.

eBay Customer Support made a final decision on your case(http://p.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/globalAssets/rtCurve.gif)
(http://q.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/s.gif)Good news! We issued you a full refund.



I sent him a message near the end of december and got this:

New message from:             geraldet55 (https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/e11051.m44.l1181/7?euid=4cb1be01638343a8b938aec29689714c&bu=43214854914&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fusr%2Fgeraldet55&sojTags=bu=bu)             (19(https://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/icon/iconYellowStar_25x25.gif)) (https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/e11051.m44.l1183/7?euid=4cb1be01638343a8b938aec29689714c&bu=43214854914&loc=http%3A%2F%2Ffeedback.ebay.com%2Fws%2FeBayISAPI.dll%3FViewFeedback%26userid%3Dgeraldet55%26ssPageName%3DSTRK%3AME%3AUFS&sojTags=bu=bu)

                                                                                              Hello, I will urge the post office to deliver the project as soon as possible
Economy Shipping, no tracking number,
Normal shipping time is 25-35 day, but does not rule out some special factors affecting the shipping time,
Sometimes up to 45-60 days,please understand


==================================



Oh well, I guess if it's too good to be true...




Title: Re: GBS 8200 scandoubler USD$5 Free post
Post by: bomrat on January 15, 2018, 05:14:54 PM
hi, i ordered 2 when they first posted. never got them. ended up getting a refund.
Title: Re: GBS 8200 scandoubler USD$5 Free post
Post by: Acill on January 15, 2018, 08:48:04 PM
Clearly a scam attempt. I also never got the pair I ordered. I was refunded the other day as well.
Title: Re: GBS 8200 scandoubler USD$5 Free post
Post by: LoadWB on January 15, 2018, 09:48:56 PM
Damn shame but a risk worth taking, IMHO :)
Title: Re: GBS 8200 scandoubler USD$5 Free post
Post by: stefcep2 on January 16, 2018, 11:14:50 AM
Also got a refund
Title: Re: GBS 8200 scandoubler USD$5 Free post
Post by: ddniUK on January 16, 2018, 12:22:23 PM
refund here too
Title: Re: GBS 8200 scandoubler USD$5 Free post
Post by: klx300r on January 20, 2018, 05:04:41 PM
almost forgot I ordered a few of these when first came out...put in my support ticket yesterday after seeing this thread and got refund today...must admit though that this is a rare occurrence for me on EBay so far