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Title: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: stevee617 on September 15, 2017, 10:42:23 PM
Missed out on the x1000 systems, but I'm making up for it now.

I can't wait to get my hands on an AmigaOne system!
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: eliyahu on September 15, 2017, 11:03:26 PM
@stevee617

awesome! welcome to the club! i hope you enjoy yours as much as i'm enjoying mine. :)

-- eliyahu
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: BozzerBigD on September 15, 2017, 11:12:24 PM
Quote from: stevee617;830681
Missed out on the x1000 systems, but I'm making up for it now.

I can't wait to get my hands on an AmigaOne system!
I hope you find the RAM speed fast enough. This chap 'tlosm' (see link) on Amigaworld is having kittens having tested it against a Apple G5 Quad Tower! Hopefully, the P5020 is fine for AmigaOS use and the P5040 will remove any remaining grievances the benchmark obsessives have ;-)

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=42094&forum=33&start=180&viewmode=flat&order=0
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: outrun1978 on September 15, 2017, 11:14:25 PM
Congratulations on your new purchase also and like Eliyahu I hope it brings you many hours of joy and happiness as it is bringing the rest of us x5000 owners
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: kreciu on September 16, 2017, 02:44:20 AM
Quote from: stevee617;830681
Missed out on the x1000 systems, but I'm making up for it now.

I can't wait to get my hands on an AmigaOne system!


Congratulations!

There is nothing better then to run OS on hardware it was made for. Enjoy and keep us updated.

I hope you will like it. I'm still staying in "classic" world, building my own "Red ONE" ;).
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: Acill on September 16, 2017, 02:49:54 AM
You will like it a lot, but the Sound card you get MAY have the buggy chip on it. The SIIGs he included are good for ony one rev, and you have no way to know if its a bad one or not.

I put in a Soundblaster Live PCI (Model SB0200) I got for $7 and its perfect. MUCH better audio too. Its been playing all day now as of today and not a single issue or lockup as I was getting before.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Creative-Labs-Sound-Blaster-PCI-SB0200-0R533-Sound-Card-Sound-Blaster-Live-/272521125338?hash=item3f73865dda:g:ZicAAOSwa~BYeUgF
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: cpaek72 on September 16, 2017, 03:01:04 AM
I have been getting some lock ups from time to time playing videos. Do you think my sound card is also the issue? I thought it was Odyssey for the longest time. I might have to get that Sound Blaster too. '

Congrats on the x5000 by the way. I use mine everyday...

Quote from: Acill;830689
You will like it a lot, but the Sound card you get MAY have the buggy chip on it. The SIIGs he included are good for ony one rev, and you have no way to know if its a bad one or not.

I put in a Soundblaster Live PCI (Model SB0200) I got for $7 and its perfect. MUCH better audio too. Its been playing all day now as of today and not a single issue or lockup as I was getting before.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Creative-Labs-Sound-Blaster-PCI-SB0200-0R533-Sound-Card-Sound-Blaster-Live-/272521125338?hash=item3f73865dda:g:ZicAAOSwa~BYeUgF
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: Debaser on September 16, 2017, 03:08:27 AM
Welcome to the club! Enjoy your new system.
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: stevee617 on September 16, 2017, 03:41:20 AM
Done!!

Quote from: Acill;830689
You will like it a lot, but the Sound card you get MAY have the buggy chip on it. The SIIGs he included are good for ony one rev, and you have no way to know if its a bad one or not.

I put in a Soundblaster Live PCI (Model SB0200) I got for $7 and its perfect. MUCH better audio too. Its been playing all day now as of today and not a single issue or lockup as I was getting before.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Creative-Labs-Sound-Blaster-PCI-SB0200-0R533-Sound-Card-Sound-Blaster-Live-/272521125338?hash=item3f73865dda:g:ZicAAOSwa~BYeUgF
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: Iggy on September 16, 2017, 02:05:03 PM
Quote from: cpaek72;830690
I have been getting some lock ups from time to time playing videos. Do you think my sound card is also the issue? I thought it was Odyssey for the longest time. I might have to get that Sound Blaster too. '

Congrats on the x5000 by the way. I use mine everyday...

If you can find one, a sound card based on the VIA Envy24HT chip is a better alternative.
I picked up a Chaintech card that's sitting in my PC waiting for my eventual purchase of an X5000/40.

BTW - Does anyone have experience using a Radeon HD 6750 in an X5000?
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: ddniUK on September 16, 2017, 02:19:48 PM
Congratulations! I'd be joining you if I didn't already have an X1000.
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: Acill on September 16, 2017, 03:32:05 PM
Quote from: cpaek72;830690
I have been getting some lock ups from time to time playing videos. Do you think my sound card is also the issue? I thought it was Odyssey for the longest time. I might have to get that Sound Blaster too. '

Congrats on the x5000 by the way. I use mine everyday...


If you have that same SIIG mini sound card I would bet it is. Get the Soundblaster I linked before they are gone. Aaron just ordered 10 of them too.

They are all like new. I couldnt even tell if the one I got was used and dont think it ever was.
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: DStastny on September 16, 2017, 04:24:10 PM
Thanks for the link for the SB.

 I have had my X5000 since Nov last year and the sound lock up and the poor USB support is probably only real issue I have had had.   I have read all the blah blah its the chips or the cards.  I am pretty sure its the driver, as software engineers have been working around hardware bugs since the first computer.  

If a $7 dollar investment fixes Ill take it(Not like a lot of advances in sound).  

I don't want anyone to take my comments as criticisms or complaint as I get it when there is only a few hundred machines in world we make do as it is a hobby and we all move the boing ball foreword.


Doug
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: Debaser on September 16, 2017, 05:51:06 PM
http://blog.hyperion-entertainment.biz/?p=899

This thread helped me out with the soundcard issue. The lack of sound and the lock ups were driving me insane. Replacement of the card has got me using the machine again. :)

Amiga on the Lake was receptive to the issue and offered a replacement sound card to me however I had already took care of it for a few bucks through ebay.
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: cpaek72 on September 22, 2017, 10:13:19 PM
Does the SBlive Model SB0200 need drivers? Do you just plug and play?
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: amigasociety on September 22, 2017, 10:42:28 PM
Congrats from a past X1K owner and current X5K owner.  Mine is on as we speak playing IRC and tinkering.  TJ
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: klx300r on September 22, 2017, 11:39:25 PM
@ stevee617

congrats & welcome :pint:
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: Acill on September 23, 2017, 05:08:53 AM
Quote from: cpaek72;830920
Does the SBlive Model SB0200 need drivers? Do you just plug and play?


Its just plug and play.
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: BozzerBigD on September 23, 2017, 02:25:16 PM
Quote from: amigasociety;830923
Congrats from a past X1K owner and current X5K owner.  Mine is on as we speak playing IRC and tinkering.  TJ
Any you had a A4000T at some point too! Do you miss it?
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: Iggy on September 23, 2017, 06:28:02 PM
Quote from: BozzerBigD;830950
Any you had a A4000T at some point too! Do you miss it?


Who wouldn't?
You'd have to be pretty stupid to sell an A4000 to finance the purchase of an NG machine (even though we have one negative poster on our forums that did just that - totally f'ing dumb).
Lets face it, I'm a big NG supporter, but I've got my A2000 sitting here waiting for a Vampire4.

You CAN support both platforms guys, legacy AND NG. They're not interchangeable or really competition for each other. Legacy runs legacy software damned good when its upgraded a bit, and the MIPS figure of a NG system make ANY legacy system look like a stone age computer.

I have fun revisiting legacy.
But, I get more done with NG (although we really need better productivity software, Odyssey has been a work horse for me but it now needs some upgrading, and we need a decent native word processor, to heck with OO, just give me a modern Amiga word processor).
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: Spectre660 on September 23, 2017, 07:30:48 PM
@Iggy

I Cant tell what is real or what is fantasy anymore .

http://forum.hyperion-entertainment.biz/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=2092#p23623
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: Iggy on September 23, 2017, 09:26:55 PM
Quote from: Spectre660;830961
@Iggy

I Cant tell what is real or what is fantasy anymore .

http://forum.hyperion-entertainment.biz/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=2092#p23623


Reading that made my head hurt.
I'm a relative noob, as I adopted MorphOS first, and then went back and became more familiar with the Amiga.

These ARE 2013 posts, BUT legacy Amiga OS, OS4, and MorphOS all set up their partitions in a similar manner (with a small boot partition, and a larger working partition).

So, wtf was the need for discussion about?
I've never even used OS4, but I'd be willing to bet that setting it up is virtually identical to OS3.1 OR MorphOS.

There's actually some neat flexibility there.
Before I got a bootable SATA controller, I used to boot MorphOS on a small PATA drive, and then switch to a much larger SATA drive once to booting process initialized the drivers I needed for the SATA controller to be recognized.

And again, I'm a relative noob.
I guess there's something to be said for coming of age during the days of more primitive OS' like DOS, or the early process control operating systems I used to have to learn (or CP/M for that matter).
You just f'ing figure it out. Sheesh!
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: amigasociety on September 23, 2017, 10:37:16 PM
Unless you really don't care for older Amiga systems like me.  :hammer:

I started playing with Amiga OS late 2009 early 2010 and come from an Atari arena.

As neat as older Amiga are, my heart was into Atari for legacy stuff or retro stuff.

I have purchased, owned, played with, then sold all sorts of older miggies, including an A4000T.  Bucket of bolts it was.  Just kidding.  hehe

I only rock NG here now and sold all old miggies to pay for my X1K... used that for 3.5 years, sold it, then let 1.5 years go, and was sucked back in for the X5K.

I see the X5K as the final stage of most power miggie NG for many years to come.  I sense that is it for A-Eon making bigger faster and they will work on getting Tabor out the door to the masses.

Maybe in years from now when Amiga OS 4.2 comes out, they will go past X5K but I think that will be long from now.

But yes, I sold all my testing amiga waters out legacy stuff to get the NGs I can actually use everyday for work, to some degree.

TJ

Quote from: Iggy;830958
Who wouldn't?
You'd have to be pretty stupid to sell an A4000 to finance the purchase of an NG machine (even though we have one negative poster on our forums that did just that - totally f'ing dumb).
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: stevee617 on September 23, 2017, 11:43:18 PM
I'd still have my A4000 machine, but sometimes, life gets in the way and you have to make hard decisions. My A4000 was pretty nice. The only thing left to get was a good accelerator card, that never happened. The prices on A4000s are getting up there, so I was on the fence. Do I buy a now 20+ year old machine (and deal with potential capacitor replacement, possible battery leakage) and upgrade it or do I go with something new? I decided to go with the new machine. It hasn't come in yet, so I really don;t know what I'm in for. The folks I've talked to tell me it's an awesome computer.

Computers have come an appliance. I want a fun computer again. I spent countless hours on my A2000 tinkering, upgrading, tweaking the Workbench, etc... I don;t think I'll be able to do that with the x5000, but I think it will be "fun" again.

I also didn't expect the backlash I've gotten from Classic users regarding my purchase on other social media sites. I've been called everything except a gentleman and a scholar. I've owned my fair share of classic systems. I enjoyed everyone and I'm still a die hard fan.

Quote from: Iggy;830958
Who wouldn't?
You'd have to be pretty stupid to sell an A4000 to finance the purchase of an NG machine (even though we have one negative poster on our forums that did just that - totally f'ing dumb).
Lets face it, I'm a big NG supporter, but I've got my A2000 sitting here waiting for a Vampire4.

You CAN support both platforms guys, legacy AND NG. They're not interchangeable or really competition for each other. Legacy runs legacy software damned good when its upgraded a bit, and the MIPS figure of a NG system make ANY legacy system look like a stone age computer.

I have fun revisiting legacy.
But, I get more done with NG (although we really need better productivity software, Odyssey has been a work horse for me but it now needs some upgrading, and we need a decent native word processor, to heck with OO, just give me a modern Amiga word processor).
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: kreciu on September 24, 2017, 01:47:32 AM
Quote from: amigasociety;830969

I see the X5K as the final stage of most power miggie NG for many years to come.  I sense that is it for A-Eon making bigger faster and they will work on getting Tabor out the door to the masses.

Maybe in years from now when Amiga OS 4.2 comes out, they will go past X5K but I think that will be long from now.


It also think the same. In same way X5K is way more then we can handle at the time. We need software to make this computer useful. It is like having access to super computer but no way to use it.

I personally will stick with my A1200 Classic and someday will get A1222. That way I will keep my "old way" and pick up some new to keep ball rolling...
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: Iggy on September 24, 2017, 02:14:55 AM
Quote from: kreciu;830973
It also think the same. In same way X5K is way more then we can handle at the time. We need software to make this computer useful. It is like having access to super computer but no way to use it.

I personally will stick with my A1200 Classic and someday will get A1222. That way I will keep my "old way" and pick up some new to keep ball rolling...

Interesting point of view, but I'm beginning to have doubts about our current direction.
The X5000 has worse video card performance than the X1000, and it has less PCI-E lanes than the X1000.
And the X1000 itself only has about half the PCI-E lanes of a PCI-E PowerMac G5 from late 2005 (18 vs 32).
Tabor has Gen1.1 PCI-E lanes like the SAM460, and like the SAM only four are connected to the video card.
And Tabor's e500v2 cored P1022 cpu is 32 bit, unlike the X1000, the X5000, and the G5 which are all 64 bit CPUs.
Then there are the fpu issues, the G5 and the PA6T in the X1000 both had very competent standard fpus with AltiVec instructions, the P50XX CPUs in the X5000 have an adequate fpu but they are missing  the AltiVec instructions, and the P1022 in Tabor has a stripped down fpu with non-standard instructions and again no AltiVec.

So since 2005, we've moved from a quad core 2.5 GHz 64 bit system with AltiVec in a standard FPU  on a board that supported 32 PCI-E lanes to a 1.2 GHz dual core 32 bit system with a non-standard fpu on a board with what about 5 PCI-E lanes (might be a few more, I haven't checked).
And this is the 'progress' that's going to carry us into the future.
Somewhere Jay Miner is laughing his ass off.:hammer:
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: kreciu on September 24, 2017, 02:36:39 AM
Quote from: Iggy;830974
So since 2005, we've moved from a quad core 2.5 GHz 64 bit system with AltiVec in a standard FPU  on a board that supported 32 PCI-E lanes to a 1.2 GHz dual core 32 bit system with a non-standard fpu on a board with what about 5 PCI-E lanes (might be a few more, I haven't checked).
And this is the 'progress' that's going to carry us into the future.
Somewhere Jay Miner is laughing his ass off.:hammer:

When I want amazing hardware I'm going to use PC (sorry people!).

Unfortunately I have ZERO influence on this what kind of hardware will be produced for AmigaOS (or any hardware produced for any Amiga!), so if A1222 will be available for good price, I will get it to have something to run AmigaOS4.1 with reasonable speed.

Blizzard PPC was released 20 years ago, AmigaOS4.1 "few years" ago, this system should be delivered with Blizzard PPC. So, when you search for "reasonable"... .

Additionally, I have not idea what X1000 vs X5000 is different "that way". I'm not behind this decision, and most likely this is what is POSSIBLE today. So, I'm happy with this what is POSSIBLE and most likely reasonable at this moment :). I actually can buy NEW hardware for AmigaOS! AMAZING.
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: fishy_fiz on September 24, 2017, 03:04:05 AM
Quote from: stevee617;830971
Computers have come an appliance. I want a fun computer again. I spent countless hours on my A2000 tinkering, upgrading, tweaking the Workbench, etc... I don;t think I'll be able to do that with the x5000, but I think it will be "fun" again.


I see this sentiment from time to time and the blindsightedness of it baffles me.
Its all down to usage. You dont need to buy an obscure, expensive, underpowered computer to have fun with them. Other than running one particular offshoot of amigaos and emptying your bank account there's *nothing* that cant be done on any other system.
What the x5000 does is forces people to explore a few different fun facets of computing that they might otherwise ignore, much like a raspberry pi.
Also, in regards to how "quick" it is, well, yes, any system running an amiga-oid system will appear quick. Real software however will show its no quicker than 10-15 year old ppc macs. People claim theres no software to take advantage of the power anyway,..... nonsense, theres plenty of software already that doesnt perform well enough for my tastes. Emulation, compiling, video encoding, software gl via wazp3d, even webbrowsing at times. Video encoding/decoding and so on and so forth. All genuinely underwhelming for this day and age.

Now that said and done, the simple fact is its the best vehicle for OS4, so the above is all moot to a point.
The inspiration for the post was reading the same old head in the sand justifications/excuses/inaccuracies people spew when it comes to OS4/x5000.
If its of interest buy it, even enjoy it, but dont make up justifications and/or subscribe to delusions just because it doesnt compare to mainstream hardware.
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: Iggy on September 24, 2017, 06:35:49 AM
Quote from: fishy_fiz;830978
I see this sentiment from time to time and the blindsightedness of it baffles me.
Its all down to usage. You dont need to buy an obscure, expensive, underpowered computer to have fun with them. Other than running one particular offshoot of amigaos and emptying your bank account there's *nothing* that cant be done on any other system.
What the x5000 does is forces people to explore a few different fun facets of computing that they might otherwise ignore, much like a raspberry pi.
Also, in regards to how "quick" it is, well, yes, any system running an amiga-oid system will appear quick. Real software however will show its no quicker than 10-15 year old ppc macs. People claim theres no software to take advantage of the power anyway,..... nonsense, theres plenty of software already that doesnt perform well enough for my tastes. Emulation, compiling, video encoding, software gl via wazp3d, even webbrowsing at times. Video encoding/decoding and so on and so forth. All genuinely underwhelming for this day and age.

Now that said and done, the simple fact is its the best vehicle for OS4, so the above is all moot to a point.
The inspiration for the post was reading the same old head in the sand justifications/excuses/inaccuracies people spew when it comes to OS4/x5000.
If its of interest buy it, even enjoy it, but dont make up justifications and/or subscribe to delusions just because it doesnt compare to mainstream hardware.

NO, its NOT the best platform for running OS4, in fact the X1000 outperforms the X5000 in several areas.
Its the best you're allowed to buy.
And 10-12 year old Macs, like the late 2005 G5? If OS4 was ported to that it would run rings around either the X1000 or the X5000. Faster processors, with the AltiVec instructions the X5000 lacks, better memory band width, and a boat load more PCI-E lanes.
The X5000 can run one video card in an X4 PCI-E Gen 2 slot, the X1000 can run one video card in an X16 Gen 1 PCI-E slot or two video cards in dual X8 PCI-e slots.
The G5 has one PCI-E X16 slot , one PCI-E X8 slot, and two PCI-E X4 slots.
It would run dual video cards BETTER than the X1000, and if you were weird enough to do it, you could run FOUR video cards in that.
Or use the two X4 slots for things like SATA3 controllers or USB3.0 cards.

So it not that its "its no quicker than 10-15 year old ppc macs" its slower (2.0 to 2.2 GHz without AltiVec vs. 2.5 GHz with Altivec), and the Mac has better expansion capability.

Progress....right? And it only to 12 years, but were getting better, after all Tabor will move us from 64 bit cpus with a standard fpu (albeit without AltiVec) to a 32 bit cpu with a non-standard fpu that operates at less than half the speed of the G5, and only slightly more than half the speed of the X5000.

And people think this will be adequate. Personally, a new release with performance that might not even match an Eyetech AmigaOnes is not progress to me.

And the asking price will be about the same as the Pegasos 2 commanded.
That price is low, but it reminds me of a joke I once heard about Kmart "Hey, you know, if they really wanted to screw you, they would have sold you TWO pairs of those lime green polyester pants for the same price".
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: Hans_ on September 25, 2017, 11:29:47 PM
Quote from: Iggy;830983
NO, its NOT the best platform for running OS4, in fact the X1000 outperforms the X5000 in several areas.
Its the best you're allowed to buy.

True. It's a real shame that supply of the PA6T CPU at an acceptable price was killed when Apple bought up PA-Semi. At least Freescale (now NXP) committed to longer-term supply of the P50x0 and P10xx. They're not desktop class CPUs (which are hard to find in the PowerPC world), but they're available at an okay price.

Quote
Progress....right? And it only to 12 years, but were getting better, after all Tabor will move us from 64 bit cpus with a standard fpu (albeit without AltiVec) to a 32 bit cpu with a non-standard fpu that operates at less than half the speed of the G5, and only slightly more than half the speed of the X5000.

People have been asking for a low-cost low-end board; this is it.

Quote
And people think this will be adequate. Personally, a new release with performance that might not even match an Eyetech AmigaOnes is not progress to me.

You don't honestly think that it'll be slower in general use than an A1-XE do you? Sure, the A1-XE G4 had altivec, but it's data buses (memory, AGP, PCI) were all very slow compared to Tabor.

Hans
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: kamelito on September 26, 2017, 04:52:35 PM
@Hans
Knowing the Tabor bus bandwidth what is the best gfx board suited to it. By best I mean fastest even if for now the DMA transfer is not utilized.
Kamelito
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: slygon on September 27, 2017, 04:07:29 AM
I love my X5000.  Is it my fastest computer?  No... But it is custom hardware and it works well.  Sadly, I have not had time to use mine much lately, but I plan to fire it back up tomorrow!
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: Rob on September 27, 2017, 06:39:12 PM
Quote from: kamelito;831050
@Hans
Knowing the Tabor bus bandwidth what is the best gfx board suited to it. By best I mean fastest even if for now the DMA transfer is not utilized.
Kamelito


The higher the clock speed the faster you software will run.  This may change over time as Warp3D Nova grows and newer software starts to take advantage of the greater number of texture and shader units available on these cards.  Older software will still be dependent on higher core clocks.

At the moment the R9 270X cards are the fastest since they have higher core clocks than the otherwise more powerful R9 280/X cards.

For the Tabor I'd recommend getting the fastest compatible R7 250 card you can get since some of them have higher clock speeds than the R9 280 cards.  They also use a lot less power, are smaller and generate less heat and noise making them better suited to smaller ITX style cases that most Tabor boards will find themselves housed in.
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: Bennymee on September 27, 2017, 09:25:30 PM
Quote from: Iggy;830974
Interesting point of view, but I'm beginning to have doubts about our current direction.
The X5000 has worse video card performance than the X1000, and it has less PCI-E lanes than the X1000.
And the X1000 itself only has about half the PCI-E lanes of a PCI-E PowerMac G5 from late 2005 (18 vs 32).
Tabor has Gen1.1 PCI-E lanes like the SAM460, and like the SAM only four are connected to the video card.
And Tabor's e500v2 cored P1022 cpu is 32 bit, unlike the X1000, the X5000, and the G5 which are all 64 bit CPUs.
Then there are the fpu issues, the G5 and the PA6T in the X1000 both had very competent standard fpus with AltiVec instructions, the P50XX CPUs in the X5000 have an adequate fpu but they are missing  the AltiVec instructions, and the P1022 in Tabor has a stripped down fpu with non-standard instructions and again no AltiVec.

So since 2005, we've moved from a quad core 2.5 GHz 64 bit system with AltiVec in a standard FPU  on a board that supported 32 PCI-E lanes to a 1.2 GHz dual core 32 bit system with a non-standard fpu on a board with what about 5 PCI-E lanes (might be a few more, I haven't checked).
And this is the 'progress' that's going to carry us into the future.
Somewhere Jay Miner is laughing his ass off.:hammer:

In this benchmark, the X1000 ivs X5000:

https://keasigmadelta.com/blog/warp3d-novas-performance-boost-partially-hidden-by-lazy-cow/

And it is a good read, the Sam460 - with the amount of pci lanes of the Tabor, is not that far behind btw.
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: Iggy on September 27, 2017, 11:58:51 PM
Quote from: Rob;831086
The higher the clock speed the faster you software will run.  This may change over time as Warp3D Nova grows and newer software starts to take advantage of the greater number of texture and shader units available on these cards.  Older software will still be dependent on higher core clocks.

At the moment the R9 270X cards are the fastest since they have higher core clocks than the otherwise more powerful R9 280/X cards.

For the Tabor I'd recommend getting the fastest compatible R7 250 card you can get since some of them have higher clock speeds than the R9 280 cards.  They also use a lot less power, are smaller and generate less heat and noise making them better suited to smaller ITX style cases that most Tabor boards will find themselves housed in.


Yeah, I'd like to see something from the later GCN generations supported.
Something like an R7 260X or even an RX 560.
I don't see the point of the higher power draw gpus like the R9 280 myself.
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: Acill on September 28, 2017, 01:03:34 PM
The more I use my X5000 the more I like it. OS4 and even 3.9 now runs faster than my 75mhz/410mhz CSPPC 4000T does. I haven't had anything fail on it that I regularly use and it a looks great. I can't for the life of me figure out why in the hell there's so much animosity towards it. Sure it's expensive, but it's a small run specialized system, not a high volume ineso it's to be expected.

The one thing I have taken away from owning an NG Amiga is toy can spend more on classic to get it setup to do what one of these can do out of the box, but still have a core of 30 year I'd hardware that will fail. Do yourself a favor and get an NG Machi eand keep a basic classic system for the games and that classic feel.
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: stevee617 on September 29, 2017, 01:39:54 AM
ETA: 4 October!
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: kreciu on September 29, 2017, 04:44:24 PM
Quote from: stevee617;831131
ETA: 4 October!


Next few day will feel like "forever". Remember we are here for you during this time of waiting... keep yourself busy e.g. go to work ;).

BTW. When you get it PLEASE keep us updated, pictures are welcome.
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: stevee617 on September 30, 2017, 02:42:09 PM
I know it will be. As soon as I get it. I will definitely post pics.

Quote from: kreciu;831148
Next few day will feel like "forever". Remember we are here for you during this time of waiting... keep yourself busy e.g. go to work ;).

BTW. When you get it PLEASE keep us updated, pictures are welcome.
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: stevee617 on October 04, 2017, 02:23:43 PM
Out for delivery!
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: kreciu on October 04, 2017, 05:00:03 PM
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Out for delivery!


Did you take day off, or maybe WEEK ;).
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: stevee617 on October 04, 2017, 06:18:47 PM
Maybe a week.
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: Iggy on October 04, 2017, 09:31:49 PM
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Maybe a week.


Very cool.
At least it won't weigh a ton like the G5s do.
I have only received one one those that didn't wind up with shipping damage to those big looped aluminum handles.

AND you lower your carbon footprint (save a squirrel...or a monkey or something).
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: kreciu on October 04, 2017, 09:55:27 PM
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AND you lower your carbon footprint (save a squirrel...or a monkey or something).

CO2 is primary food for plants :), so... let the grow so I can eat them and I forgot to add we are all carbon based. ALL. :).

I'm waiting for A1222. I hope it will be nice and AVAILABLE for purchase for longer time.
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: stevee617 on October 05, 2017, 12:59:25 AM
It’s here!
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: Iggy on October 05, 2017, 02:20:47 AM
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It’s here!


Change your signature!
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: stevee617 on October 05, 2017, 03:10:44 AM
Done!

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Change your signature!
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: kreciu on October 05, 2017, 03:23:36 AM
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It’s here!


What can I say? I super happy for you!
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: smerf on October 05, 2017, 09:24:10 AM
Pfffft!!!
Hope you have a good time with it, me myself I am running an x10000 on my msi990fxa gaming card running at 4.2ghz with fs-uae. Superfast and automatically senses pal or NTSC. Video is super since I am using a palit jetstream 1060. Couldn't ask for more.
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: BozzerBigD on October 05, 2017, 12:00:11 PM
Nice! But it's a shame that you can't easily get the boing ball case door in the USA.
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: stevee617 on October 05, 2017, 03:08:55 PM
Supposedly, there’s going to be a replacement front cover for this case to make more Amiga-esque.

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Nice! But it's a shame that you can't easily get the boing ball case door in the USA.
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: kreciu on October 05, 2017, 03:14:31 PM
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Supposedly, there’s going to be a replacement front cover for this case to make more Amiga-esque.


In the past people were waiting for... back plates. Now, it is time for something NEW. Lets wait for front covers! ;)
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: Debaser on October 05, 2017, 03:21:36 PM
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It’s here!


Congrats! Enjoy it and welcome to the club! :)
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: Jeff on October 05, 2017, 07:21:31 PM
Congratulations that is awesome!
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: Iggy on October 05, 2017, 10:49:05 PM
Quote from: kreciu;831337
In the past people were waiting for... back plates. Now, it is time for something NEW. Lets wait for front covers! ;)


The original cases used aren't available anymore.
This is a related case from the same manufacturer.
I think it looks great.

And boing ball graphics aren't nearly as important to me as getting a complete package with stuff like a backing plate.

Remember guys, these are being built in limited quantities.
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: BozzerBigD on October 05, 2017, 11:09:53 PM
All the more reason for Amiga on the Lake or whoever your U.S. supplier is to have stockpiled the original case!
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: Spectre660 on October 05, 2017, 11:25:59 PM
http://amigaonthelake.com/amigaone-x5000-system-first-encounters-bundle/

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All the more reason for Amiga on the Lake or whoever your U.S. supplier is to have stockpiled the original case!
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: BozzerBigD on October 05, 2017, 11:44:37 PM
Fair enough and good to hear they are working on supplying their customers with a replacement Boing Ball door for the case they are now able to source.
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: kreciu on October 06, 2017, 08:06:11 PM
So, how is it?
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: bladerunner1963 on October 06, 2017, 11:57:10 PM
Congrats! Been enjoying my X5000 for a few weeks now. Have a blast!
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: stevee617 on October 07, 2017, 12:18:24 AM
I'm very happy with it. Still getting my feet wet. There's only one problem I've had...I just couldn't get past the Fractal Designs case. Every time I looked at it, it screamed PEEEEE CEEEEE. I HAD to swap it out.

The Zalman NEO Z9 looks, to me, what this computer should be in. I need to find a large Boing Ball (x1000 style) to put on the door and find a white keyboard and mouse.
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: Acill on October 07, 2017, 12:35:14 AM
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I’m very happy with it. Still getting my feet wet. There’s only one problem I’ve had...I just couldn’t get past the Fractal Designs case. Every time I looked at it it screamed “PEEEEE CEEEEE”. I had to swap it out. The Zalman NEO Z9 looks, to me, what this computer should be in. I need to find a large boing ball to put on the door.


Thats a great looking case!! I may just get that now!!

Sheesh, thanks for the money spent! :P
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: stevee617 on October 07, 2017, 01:09:03 AM
I'm here to help.

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Thats a great looking case!! I may just get that now!!

Sheesh, thanks for the money spent! :P
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: Iggy on October 07, 2017, 02:16:09 AM
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I'm very happy with it. Still getting my feet wet. There's only one problem I've had...I just couldn't get past the Fractal Designs case. Every time I looked at it, it screamed PEEEEE CEEEEE. I had to swap it out. The Zalman NEO Z9 looks, to me, what this computer should be in. I need to find a large Boing Ball (x1000 style) to put on the door and find a white keyboard and mouse.


Funny, I want to mount one in a silver case I already own, and Commodore never made silver Amigas. Maybe MorphOS and the Macintoshes I've used have corrupted me :lol: ( or maybe I just really like the case).
And I'm not that interested in boing balls. The X1000 was the only system with one on it.
Maybe a butterfly decal to distinguish my OS of choice. :laughing:
Title: Re: Just purchased an x5000!
Post by: stevee617 on October 07, 2017, 03:10:55 AM
I'm a big MorphOS fan!

I just want something that sets it apart from everything else, but add a touch of class to the case. I think the x1000 case was well done in that respect.

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Funny, I want to mount one in a silver case I already own, and Commodore never made silver Amigas. Maybe MorphOS and the Macintoshes I've used have corrupted me :lol: ( or maybe I just really like the case).
And I'm not that interested in boing balls. The X1000 was the only system with one on it.
Maybe a butterfly decal to distinguish my OS of choice. :laughing: