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Title: Blue CPU slot?
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on August 10, 2017, 04:34:07 AM
What do you guys make of this?  Auction says it is a "very rare" (haha) blue 6.2B motherboard.  Think it's C= original or did someone just replace it with whatever they had on hand, due to battery damage or somesuch?
Title: Re: Blue CPU slot?
Post by: Matt_H on August 10, 2017, 04:58:51 AM
Well, technically, it is rare. But it doesn't add any value to the machine! :)

I suspect it's the result of a repair. There doesn't seem to be any battery damage, so maybe it was something else earlier in the machine's life.

Then again, C= always wanted to save every penny imaginable in component costs. Maybe blue slots were $0.00002 cheaper for this particular production run :)
Title: Re: Blue CPU slot?
Post by: magnetic on August 10, 2017, 05:30:25 AM
Im sure somebody repaired that and used a blue socket highly doubt thats from CBM
Title: Re: Blue CPU slot?
Post by: Pat the Cat on August 10, 2017, 02:14:18 PM
Quote from: magnetic;829320
Im sure somebody repaired that and used a blue socket highly doubt thats from CBM

 +1.
 
 Can't recall seeing a blue socket back in the 90s. Not on an Amiga. Never. I think it's a later innovation, when dyes were added to basic polyester mixes rather than carbon black.
 
 If it is genuine it's an Escom product? But Escom didn't sell the A2000... nah, can't be. Unless it was recycyled old CBM stock that they put a novel connector on. Very unlikely.
Title: Re: Blue CPU slot?
Post by: motrucker on August 10, 2017, 06:02:32 PM
I've been working with Amigas since they were leased, and never have seen this. My vote's for a repair.
Title: Re: Blue CPU slot?
Post by: Rob on August 11, 2017, 12:01:20 AM
A blue CPU slot means it's military spec.
Title: Re: Blue CPU slot?
Post by: Jeff on August 11, 2017, 12:09:39 AM
I have an old rev A3000 motherboard with blue zip ram sockets. I am sure they are from a repair attempt too?
Title: Re: Blue CPU slot?
Post by: klx300r on August 11, 2017, 07:02:02 AM
Quote from: Rob;829415
A blue CPU slot means it's military spec.


& sadly Doomy approved:laughing:
Title: Re: Blue CPU slot?
Post by: Pat the Cat on August 11, 2017, 02:57:36 PM
Quote from: Rob;829415
A blue CPU slot means it's military spec.

If you are correct, then it's definitely not original, as Milspec 2000 dates from... 16 JAN 1989.

(no, you can't google it, but you can check the release date).

http://everyspec.com/MIL-STD/MIL-STD-2000-2999/MIL-STD-2000_10934/

On the other hand, having a hotter than normal CPU would require a connector capable of withstanding 125C without deforming... nylon or better rather than polyester or ABS.

If you can find some evidence to back up your claim Rob, would love to know how you know... bearing in mind that blue connectors are definitely NOT military spec now, so could be used currently to defectively repair old military equipment if you are correct. Only they would deform at 125C, so quite frankly I think you are not correct at all.

Misinformed rather than deliberately deceiving, there is an old saying about the military "Bull$hit baffles brains", ie the operators get taught a lot of things that just are not accurate.
 
 So long as the equipment is accurate and goes BANG when you pull the trigger, it doesn't matter.
Title: Re: Blue CPU slot?
Post by: Matt_H on August 11, 2017, 03:50:22 PM
@ Pat

"Mil-spec" is a running joke we have here about an infamous user known as "Doomy" (and multiple other aliases) who insisted that the A2000 was the best Amiga because it was mil-spec (i.e., used ceramic chip casings) and that all other Amigas were toys and trash. In short, he was a complete nutter.
Title: Re: Blue CPU slot?
Post by: Pat the Cat on August 11, 2017, 04:01:53 PM
Well... technically, you can run things hotter if they're all built to the right standard.

That's never meant they could go any FASTER though. Just that they will keep working in an emergency.

So, if Doomy lived in a building that often caught fire, it would make sense. To him, anyway. Overclocking types tend to be obsessive.

"Nutter" is a relative term. I mean, most people here are nutty about Amigas.

Question of keeping a perspective and not getting too obsessive, I guess.
Title: Re: Blue CPU slot?
Post by: Rob on August 11, 2017, 04:07:34 PM
Quote from: Pat the Cat;829448
If you are correct, then it's definitely not original, as Milspec 2000 dates from... 16 JAN 1989.
 


It's an in joke.
Title: Re: Blue CPU slot?
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on August 11, 2017, 04:24:47 PM
Quote from: Rob;829455
It's an in joke.


#Facepalm
Title: Re: Blue CPU slot?
Post by: LoadWB on August 11, 2017, 05:46:49 PM
Quote from: Pat the Cat;829454
"Nutter" is a relative term. I mean, most people here are nutty about Amigas.

Question of keeping a perspective and not getting too obsessive, I guess.


Ummmm, sure, but you're applying rational reasoning to an irrational situation.  How about, then, he's off his phuqn rocker??  I suppose this is one of those "had-to-be-there" things.
Title: Re: Blue CPU slot?
Post by: klx300r on August 11, 2017, 06:54:56 PM
Quote from: LoadWB;829463
Ummmm, sure, but you're applying rational reasoning to an irrational situation.  How about, then, he's off his phuqn rocker??  .


too kind, 'certifiably cookoo', would be more appropriate & still to kind ;-)
Title: Re: Blue CPU slot?
Post by: Iggy on August 11, 2017, 07:05:44 PM
Quote from: Pat the Cat;829454
Well... technically, you can run things hotter if they're all built to the right standard.

That's never meant they could go any FASTER though. Just that they will keep working in an emergency.

So, if Doomy lived in a building that often caught fire, it would make sense. To him, anyway. Overclocking types tend to be obsessive.

"Nutter" is a relative term. I mean, most people here are nutty about Amigas.

Question of keeping a perspective and not getting too obsessive, I guess.


'nutty'? You mean obsessive, fixated, living in an alternate universe? :hammer:
Title: Re: Blue CPU slot?
Post by: Matt_H on August 11, 2017, 08:02:50 PM
Quote from: klx300r;829469
too kind, 'certifiably cookoo', would be more appropriate & still to kind ;-)


Here's his latest venture (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Commodore-Amiga-2000-Mechanical-Keyboard-/162622504248). :crazy:
Title: Re: Blue CPU slot?
Post by: Rob on August 11, 2017, 08:04:01 PM
Hans George Campbell AKA Doomy.  He's kind of like a budget version of Ryan Czerwinski.  Both con artists who thought they were more important figures in the Amiga scene than they actually were.
Title: Re: Blue CPU slot?
Post by: klx300r on August 11, 2017, 09:15:18 PM
Quote from: Matt_H;829477
                         Quote:
                                                      Originally Posted by klx300r                (http://www.amiga.org/forums/web/buttons/viewpost.gif) (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?p=829469#post829469)             
             too kind, 'certifiably cookoo', would be more appropriate & still to kind ;-)
                         
Here's his latest venture (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Commodore-Amiga-2000-Mechanical-Keyboard-/162622504248). :crazy:       


yup he's at it again for sure eh http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=72525
Title: Re: Blue CPU slot?
Post by: klx300r on August 11, 2017, 09:17:24 PM
Quote from: Rob;829478
Hans George Campbell AKA Doomy.  He's kind of like a budget version of Ryan Czerwinski.  Both con artists who thought they were more important figures in the Amiga scene than they actually were.

understatement of the year:hammer:
Title: Re: Blue CPU slot?
Post by: guest11527 on August 11, 2017, 09:54:47 PM
Quote from: Matt_H;829477
Here's his latest venture (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Commodore-Amiga-2000-Mechanical-Keyboard-/162622504248). :crazy:
Well, with prices like this I guess I do not need to worry about my retirement plan. I still have an A2000. And the keyboard. (-:
Title: Re: Blue CPU slot?
Post by: mechy on August 12, 2017, 08:59:04 PM
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;829315
What do you guys make of this?  Auction says it is a "very rare" (haha) blue 6.2B motherboard.  Think it's C= original or did someone just replace it with whatever they had on hand, due to battery damage or somesuch?

Likely a repair job, you wouldn't find a oddball color slot on a late production board like this, maybe you would on a older prototype or very early board.

those sockets were available in blue,green red,depending on the mfg.