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Title: TLFSMem.lha Download?
Post by: carvedeye on June 02, 2017, 02:43:20 PM
Hi does anyone have a link for this piece of software? I have done a clean installation of AmigaOS 3.9 on my Amiga and would like to install this again but cant remember where I downloaded it?
Title: Re: TLFSMem.lha Download?
Post by: giZmo350 on June 02, 2017, 03:03:21 PM
I think you can get V1.4 here..... :)

http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=940181&postcount=8
Title: Re: TLFSMem.lha Download?
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on June 02, 2017, 03:20:06 PM
Chris Hodges (I think his name was, sorry I haven't had my coffee yet today) took it down when he deleted his website.

I have 1.9, remind me on Monday and I can send it to you. Helping my gf move this weekend, aah!
Title: Re: TLFSMem.lha Download?
Post by: Thomas on June 02, 2017, 03:31:50 PM
Quote from: carvedeye;826581
Hi does anyone have a link for this piece of software? I have done a clean installation of AmigaOS 3.9 on my Amiga and would like to install this again but cant remember where I downloaded it?


http://dump.platon42.de/files/
Title: Re: TLFSMem.lha Download?
Post by: giZmo350 on June 02, 2017, 03:35:16 PM
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;826584
Chris Hodges (I think his name was, sorry I haven't had my coffee yet today) took it down when he deleted his website.

I have 1.9, remind me on Monday and I can send it to you. Helping my gf move this weekend, aah!

Yea Mike, I remember you had extracted v1.9 from another package. :) I couldn't find the post where you had linked it though.

What!!!!! :eek: Your GF isn't moved YET????

(https://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/aBKzOvO_700b.jpg) (https://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/aBKzOvO_700b.jpg)
Title: Re: TLFSMem.lha Download?
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on June 02, 2017, 03:38:37 PM
Quote from: gizmo350;826588
What!!!!! :eek: Your GF isn't moved YET????

She's finally moving in and her stuff is everrrywhere. At least she can't say anything about me having a few Amiga's around when she has at least 75 totes labeled "shoes", "summer dresses", etc. Lol! :p
Title: Re: TLFSMem.lha Download?
Post by: LoadWB on June 02, 2017, 04:55:05 PM
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;826590
She's finally moving in and her stuff is everrrywhere. At least she can't say anything about me having a few Amiga's around when she has at least 75 totes labeled "shoes", "summer dresses", etc. Lol! :p


Shoes can probably by culled.  Keep the summer dresses.  Yesss.  We likes the summer dresses.
Title: Re: TLFSMem.lha Download?
Post by: giZmo350 on June 02, 2017, 05:26:13 PM
Quote from: LoadWB;826592
Shoes can probably by culled.  Keep the summer dresses.  Yesss.  We likes the summer dresses.

 Dang.... I miss the 70's! Daisy Dukes & Halter Tops!  :lol:

(http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/169558.jpg)

Sorry carvedeye..... :laugh1:
Title: Re: TLFSMem.lha Download?
Post by: carvedeye on June 03, 2017, 10:50:05 AM
Quote from: gizmo350;826582
I think you can get V1.4 here..... :)

http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=940181&postcount=8


Thanks for the link :)
Title: Re: TLFSMem.lha Download?
Post by: carvedeye on June 03, 2017, 10:50:42 AM
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;826584
Chris Hodges (I think his name was, sorry I haven't had my coffee yet today) took it down when he deleted his website.

I have 1.9, remind me on Monday and I can send it to you. Helping my gf move this weekend, aah!


Thanks Mike I will remind you on Monday. much appreciated :)
Title: Re: TLFSMem.lha Download?
Post by: guest11527 on June 03, 2017, 12:10:23 PM
Quote from: carvedeye;826581
Hi does anyone have a link for this piece of software?

I would advice against it because it does not satisfy the full protocol of the exec memory allocator - which is unfortunately a critical piece of exec.
Title: Re: TLFSMem.lha Download?
Post by: JimDrew on June 03, 2017, 04:40:50 PM
I agree with Thomas, once installed it will be the source of odd issues and instability.  You would be better off avoiding it.
Title: Re: TLFSMem.lha Download?
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on June 03, 2017, 05:05:22 PM
Quote from: JimDrew;826639
I agree with Thomas, once installed it will be the source of odd issues and instability.  You would be better off avoiding it.


Been running it on all my Amiga's for years. No "odd issues or instability". Obviously YMMV. :lol:
Title: Re: TLFSMem.lha Download?
Post by: guest11527 on June 03, 2017, 05:43:16 PM
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;826640
Been running it on all my Amiga's for years. No "odd issues or instability".
Just to give you an idea. Some versions of TurboPrint allocate their memory for staying resident themselves by walking the exec memory chunk list, and essentially performing an AllocMem(...,MEMF_PUBLIC|MEMF_REVERSE) by themselves. One could clearly say "don't do this", but given that MEMF_REVERSE was broken on at least some versions of exec, TurboPrint didn't have much of a choice, really.

Now, with the patch installed, exec memory is no longer a singly-linked list of chunks, but a smarter structure (I believe it is a "buddy allocator"). This is in general a good thing, and certainly a smarter structure, but it necessarily breaks at least some versions of TurboPrint.

The exec memory chain is unfortunately documented (it better should not have been, but too late), hence it is part of the interface exec provides, and hence every replacement has to satisfy this interface as well.

There are better and more compatible ways how to extend the admittedly primitive exec memory allocator, but this particular idea is not a good one as far as compatibility is concerned.
Title: Re: TLFSMem.lha Download?
Post by: psxphill on June 04, 2017, 11:31:03 AM
Quote from: Thomas Richter;826641
Now, with the patch installed, exec memory is no longer a singly-linked list of chunks,

It should be possible to maintain read compatibility of the data structures, although this might require the minimum allocation size to be bumped (the minimum allocation size needs to be large enough so that the freed memory is large enough to store the data structure necessary for allocation.

If software wants to allocate memory by modifying the data structures directly then you do have an issue. If that is the case then a patch for turbo print would seem like a good idea anyway.
Title: Re: TLFSMem.lha Download?
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on June 05, 2017, 11:31:17 PM
Here you go, 1.9, zipped, attached.  Try not to lose it this time, guys.  :lol:
Title: Re: TLFSMem.lha Download?
Post by: carvedeye on June 06, 2017, 12:25:58 AM
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;826697
Here you go, 1.9, zipped, attached.  Try not to lose it this time, guys.  :lol:


Thanks Mike :)
Title: Re: TLFSMem.lha Download?
Post by: nicholas on June 06, 2017, 02:06:16 AM
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;826697
Here you go, 1.9, zipped, attached.  Try not to lose it this time, guys.  :lol:


All Chris's work is still available on his server, he just took the his website down not the archives of his work. Thomas linked to it earlier.
Title: Re: TLFSMem.lha Download?
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on June 06, 2017, 06:33:48 AM
Quote from: nicholas;826700
All Chris's work is still available on his server, he just took the his website down not the archives of his work. Thomas linked to it earlier.


I noticed that. First I'd heard of it. Pretty neat, kind of hard to find though, without a website front-end. :(
Title: Re: TLFSMem.lha Download?
Post by: nicholas on June 07, 2017, 02:55:36 AM
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;826702
I noticed that. First I'd heard of it. Pretty neat, kind of hard to find though, without a website front-end. :(


For a while it used to come up in a Google search if you searched for tlsfmem but not sure if it still does.

It's a shame they aren't all up on aminet. Better than nothing at all though I guess.
Title: Re: TLFSMem.lha Download?
Post by: Terminills on June 07, 2017, 11:54:40 AM
Quote from: nicholas;826739
For a while it used to come up in a Google search if you searched for tlsfmem but not sure if it still does.

It's a shame they aren't all up on aminet. Better than nothing at all though I guess.



Yes it does.
Title: Re: TLFSMem.lha Download?
Post by: trixster on June 12, 2017, 11:06:42 AM
Quote from: JimDrew;826639
I agree with Thomas, once installed it will be the source of odd issues and instability.  You would be better off avoiding it.


Agreed, I used it for a while and it caused issues with a number of programs.