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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: fondpondforever on May 22, 2017, 05:16:28 PM
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Do you think the AmigaOne X5000 will be available to buy on the Amigakit website this summer? Thanks.
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@fondpondforever
yes.
-- eliyahu
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Do you think the AmigaOne X5000 will be available to buy on the Amigakit website this summer? Thanks.
You can buy one NOW!
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Where, on the Amigakit website?
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Where, on the Amigakit website?
http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1121
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And the price from the US store with the 4GB of ram has increased by 2.36% from last week because of the exchange rates.
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I meant the whole Computer Bundle, not just the Motherboard.
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I meant the whole Computer Bundle, not just the Motherboard.
Wouldn't it be easier to just contact and ask direct instead of on a forum, where people may or may not know.
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@F0LLETT (http://www.amiga.org/forums/member.php?u=5089)
I disagree that would only lead to him getting a one off deal behing closed doors not the unveiling of the complete machine on the website (which is what we want). This isn't a normal sales situation it's a lesson in carefully controlling stock so no oversupply takes place to keep demand and the computer's value high.
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@BozzerBigD (http://www.amiga.org/forums/member.php?u=7499)
Probable hold up in supplying complete systems may be the issue with some sound cards .
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@BozzerBigD (http://www.amiga.org/forums/member.php?u=7499)
Probable hold up in supplying complete systems may be the issue with some sound cards .
Could be, the CMI 8738 based cards do not impress me.
Their operation under OS4 seems a bit flaky.
While they are likely to be supported under MorphOS, I'd rather have a VIA based card.
It makes me wish I had not sold my Envy24HT card.
In any case, what's the point of this thread?
Whole system ARE available.
Do you feel you HAVE to buy one directly from Amigakit?
No doubt they are busy making sure that their distributors have stock.
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Both pciex1 versions of CMI8738 and Envy24ht can have a version of a bridge chip that can cause problems.
http://forum.hyperion-entertainment.biz/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=3625&start=10#p40142
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It just seems wrong that the X5000 is put together and shipped from the UK but the UK customers are kept in the dark about availability and IMHO suppliers overseas provide a far better idea of when units will be in stock. Yet UK customers are 'supposed' to buy off Amigakit but the stock/availibility isn't even listed on the website. Sad.
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Both pciex1 versions of CMI8738 and Envy24ht can have a version of a bridge chip that can cause problems.
http://forum.hyperion-entertainment.biz/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=3625&start=10#p40142
Well, you could always install the PCI versions of these cards...
I don't know about the CMI8738 driver, but the driver for the Envy24HT ought to work on either type of card.
And, depending on how the card is designed, the Envy24HT definitely has the potential to provide better quality sound (than the alternatives).
However...Envy24HT cards are rapidly becoming unobtainable (and for some reason Acube has posted an image of a Tremor based card instead).
Also, the CMI8738 is the cheaper and much more commonly available solution.
I'll probably try one of those in the PCI variant.
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I meant the whole Computer Bundle, not just the Motherboard.
Can't you buy/find cases, power supplies, some where on the isle?
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Well, you could always install the PCI versions of these cards...
I don't know about the CMI8738 driver, but the driver for the Envy24HT ought to work on either type of card.
And, depending on how the card is designed, the Envy24HT definitely has the potential to provide better quality sound (than the alternatives).
However...Envy24HT cards are rapidly becoming unobtainable (and for some reason Acube has posted an image of a Tremor based card instead).
Also, the CMI8738 is the cheaper and much more commonly available solution.
I'll probably try one of those in the PCI variant.
I got my cmi8738 pci-e card from AmigaKIt! No problems here!
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@SACC-guy
Is it a buggy Teron style evaluation board or a £1000+ luxury product? I think a lot of people wanting a £1000 motherboard aren't necessarily the same people that would want to build there own cheap PC bundle. For one thing what if you actually like the custom boing ball case don't own an AmigaOS mouse and keyboard and quite frankly can't be bothered begging AmigaKit to sell them a machine that they should be proud to actual market to the world!
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I have had a pair on preorder from AmigaKit since mid January this year.
So maybe their supply dried up.
I got my cmi8738 pci-e card from AmigaKIt! No problems here!
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The authorized resellers actually assemble their own machines and source their own cases .
http://amigaonthelake.com/amigaone-x5000-system-first-encounters-bundle/
It just seems wrong that the X5000 is put together and shipped from the UK but the UK customers are kept in the dark about availability and IMHO suppliers overseas provide a far better idea of when units will be in stock. Yet UK customers are 'supposed' to buy off Amigakit but the stock/availibility isn't even listed on the website. Sad.
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Yeah, I know. They seem to be able to inform their customers of limited supply runs despite a lack of Fractal cases and the fact the boards ship from the UK. Why are Amigakit unable to build up a supply of assembled systems? It is probably because its easier to ship out the boards to resellers thereby quicky recouping costs and not having to divert resources to time consuming system building and testing. None of this makes it right for UK customers who miss out due to this strategy.
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Who cares? Are you actually in the market to buy one, or just asking questions to stir the pot? :lol:
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I doubt that it is a strategy .
It probably based on certain realities.
So there may never be a "standard" X5000 system.
What you buy from one dealer could have a different model case or even someone else purchasing at a later date from the same dealer as you see with Amiga on the Lake.
A "Powered by Cyrus" logo sticker may be what is needs to included with every Cyrus motherboard.
Those of us who can source and assemble our own systems can get on with it. Those who cant will have to wait until the prebuilt systems are available. It is best to try not to focus your frustration on Amigakit without knowing the actual reason.
Yeah, I know. They seem to be able to inform their customers of limited supply runs despite a lack of Fractal cases and the fact the boards ship from the UK. Why are Amigakit unable to build up a supply of assembled systems? It is probably because its easier to ship out the boards to resellers thereby quicky recouping costs and not having to divert resources to time consuming system building and testing. None of this makes it right for UK customers who miss out due to this strategy.
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@Thread
I am pleased that Amigakit have resellers to shoulder the burden of 'launching' the X5000 but I still think this low key approach to actually marketing the machine is a bit depressing to be honest.
I would need a push to make an investment in one of these machines and Amigakit make it as difficult as possible for me to buy one off the shelf. I've never 'pre-ordered' hardware and when there were no A1200s in stock for Christmas 1995 I bought the Special Reserve Super CD32 bundle with SX-1. A good choice as it happens especially after an upgrade to the SX-32. You can only buy what you are offered and at the moment Amigakit only offer a mobo and even then you have to ask nicely ;-)
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@Thread
I would need a push to make an investment in one of these machines and Amigakit make it as difficult as possible for me to buy one off the shelf.
Oh come on. How hard is it to pick up the phone and give them a call to and ask how quickly they can get a system out to you or can they call you back when they're in the position to do so. There was no online ordering when you got the CD32 system.
If you want to buy an OS4 system then you have to be pretty sure about. If you have to phone through an order to get a complete system then surely that's not really much of challenge compared to the decision making process.
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Oh come on. How hard is it to pick up the phone and
It's 2017. You shouldn't *actually* have to talk on the phone to be able to conduct business.
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Hey Mike
some of us still use cash! (grin)
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@Thread
I am pleased that Amigakit have resellers to shoulder the burden of 'launching' the X5000 but I still think this low key approach to actually marketing the machine is a bit depressing to be honest.
I would need a push to make an investment in one of these machines and Amigakit make it as difficult as possible for me to buy one off the shelf. I've never 'pre-ordered' hardware and when there were no A1200s in stock for Christmas 1995 I bought the Special Reserve Super CD32 bundle with SX-1. A good choice as it happens especially after an upgrade to the SX-32. You can only buy what you are offered and at the moment Amigakit only offer a mobo and even then you have to ask nicely ;-)
I, too, like being treated well when I'm spending money...
But, we have to "help" our amiga dealers, (which I like to do)
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Hey Mike
some of us still use cash! (grin)
I've had like, $2 cash in my wallet for the past month. I don't even go anywhere that I could spend it! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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@thread
well, look what we have here... apparently amigakit has listened to you guys, because as of this morning, a complete AmigaOne X5000 system is now available to sell on their web site. yay!
http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1303 (http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1303)
-- eliyahu
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Wow!!! I did not expect that! Come on UK users let's try and scrape our coppers together ;-)
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well, look what we have here... apparently amigakit has listened to you guys
Yay ! Fondpondforever for Prime Minister !!!
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@eliyahu (http://www.amiga.org/forums/member.php?u=8603)
It might be wise for Amigakit to made some reference as to whether a sound card is also included in the System description .
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@Spectre660
Why? What's wrong with the on board sound?
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The Cyrus Plus motherboard does not have any onboard sound.
Specifications
Back panel from left to right:
(http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/images/bullet.jpg) serial RS-232
(http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/images/bullet.jpg) ethernet RJ-45 10/100/1000 mbps
(http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/images/bullet.jpg) 2x USB 2.0 type A female
(http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/images/bullet.jpg) 2x USB 2.0 type A female
(http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/images/bullet.jpg) 2x USB 2.0 type A female
On board:
(http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/images/bullet.jpg) 2x USB 2.0 header
(http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/images/bullet.jpg) SATA 0
(http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/images/bullet.jpg) SATA 1
(http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/images/bullet.jpg) DIMM 0 DDR3
(http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/images/bullet.jpg) DIMM 1 DDR3
(http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/images/bullet.jpg) micro SD card ROM
(http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/images/bullet.jpg) CR2032 battery for real time clock
(http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/images/bullet.jpg) PCI-E x16 slot
(http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/images/bullet.jpg) PCI-E x4
(http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/images/bullet.jpg) PCI-E x1 / Xorro
(http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/images/bullet.jpg) PCI-E x1
(http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/images/bullet.jpg) PCI-E x1
(http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/images/bullet.jpg) PCI 5v 32-bit 33Mhz
(http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/images/bullet.jpg) PCI 5v 32-bit 33Mhz
(http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/images/bullet.jpg) Haze Xorro Header
(http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/images/bullet.jpg) serial RS-232
(http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/images/bullet.jpg) ethernet RJ-45 10/100/1000 mbps
(http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/images/bullet.jpg) 2x USB 2.0 type A female
(http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/images/bullet.jpg) 2x USB 2.0 type A female
(http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/images/bullet.jpg) 2x USB 2.0 type A female
@Spectre660
Why? What's wrong with the on board sound?
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@Spectre660
Why? What's wrong with the on board sound?
You will need to add a sound card if purchasing the motherboard on its own. I would recommend an Envy 24-HT for this one as there are some known issues with certain CMI-8738 types of card
However given that Amigakit are selling this as a complete system it will come with a soundcard which has been tested and will be working so you shouldnt need to worry ;-)
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It's 2017. You shouldn't *actually* have to talk on the phone to be able to conduct business.
Sometime I'd LIKE to be able to talk to someone on the phone, but everyone these days is installing automated phone system that insulate themselves from their customers (And no, I don't find those systems convenient).
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It's 2017. You shouldn't *actually* have to talk on the phone to be able to conduct business.
Bullpoop. Some ISPs and online servers require confirmation by phone to even access the internet consistently.
It's all this "people have only one device, one login, and all mobile OS are proprietary" mentality.
I'm not saying I'm happy that this is so, but it is so, and pretending that not having a phone is an option for business over the networks...
... Myth. Complete myth.