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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Marketplace => Topic started by: KevinM on April 19, 2017, 03:03:57 PM
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Amiga-A4000T-4000T-68060-Cyberstorm-PPC-604e-CyberVision-64-3D-ScanDoubler-/332186219098
- Ship to UK, EU, USA and Canada
- Auction ends 27 April 2017
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Wow, awesome computer :-)
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VERY pretty, indeed. Feels good to see such a beast had been put to good use.
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It looks fantastic! It will be interesting to see how much it grabs!
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I was just about to post this on amiga.org myself. It seems that if an A4000T is on your wish list, then this would be the one and only to go for.
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Hmm.. Mine has this and more in it, definitely watching this one and see where it ends! Not that I would ever sell mine in the foreseeable future! Good luck with the sale mate!
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Thanks for the comments guys. Yes it's a monster machine and served me very well over the years... I hope it goes to a good home.
There are some higher resolution pics here if anyone's interested:
http://s1064.photobucket.com/user/james_mccullen/media/Amiga%20A4000T/IMG_2839-square_zps8sqbu84t.jpg.html?sort=9&o=2
http://s1064.photobucket.com/user/james_mccullen/media/Amiga%20A4000T/Boards/IMG_2832_zpsz1xbdrjz.jpg.html
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How fast is the PPC? I don't see it in the description or the whichamiga screenshot. Of course I could be blind and missed it :)
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I see the current bid is £1516 ...... for a 20 year old piece of kit with a power PC accelerator card that is 240mhz max
And people think £1699 inc vat is expensive for a base Amigaone X5000 which is going to be a lot more powerful than this (admittedly great set up )
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I see the current bid is £1516 ...... for a 20 year old piece of kit with a power PC accelerator card that is 240mhz max
And people think £1699 inc vat is expensive for a base Amigaone X5000 which is going to be a lot more powerful than this (admittedly great set up )
The (very) big difference:
In 10 years, the A4000T will be worth the same or probably more.
Every piece of Amiga kit I ever bought is worth more now than when I bought it, usually considerably more.
I enjoy them all now, but also see it as a future investment.
Can you say the same for NG gear ?
Besides, the nostalgia factor is powerful and can't be reasoned with :)
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I see the current bid is £1516 ...... for a 20 year old piece of kit with a power PC accelerator card that is 240mhz max
And people think £1699 inc vat is expensive for a base Amigaone X5000 which is going to be a lot more powerful than this (admittedly great set up )
You also have to consider that only ONE person can buy this A4000T, but anyone/everyone can order a new X5000. Demand for A4000T's still seems to be pretty high....much higher than supply.
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Yes. This is pretty much the 'holy grail' for people who want to obtain a classic Amiga. I would love one as would most Amiga fans. Good luck to the bidders on this. I thought about bidding but that's a hard sell to the wife haha. Besides, I'd just use to to play games and I can do that on my existing machine.
If I had to spend the cash on this or an X5000 I would choose this any day of the week. It will hold its value should I ever want to sell it down the road. It is the flagship of a classic computer range. The X5000 is just a PPC-based hobby board in a clone PC case.
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Thanks again everybody for all the great feedback!
How fast is the PPC? I don't see it in the description or the whichamiga screenshot. Of course I could be blind and missed it :)
I'm afraid I'm not exactly sure. I bought the beast in around '97 from a UK company (White Knight Technology I think they were called) and they handled the build for me. I just asked them for a super setup.
I've never done any overclocking so I'd imagine it runs at either 180 or 200 MHz. Would anyone know the best way for me to find this out using software?
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I think SysSpeed (http://aminet.net/util/moni/sspeed26.lha) will tell it.
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SysSpeed, Scout, WhichAmiga, plenty of other things. Just about anything other than SysInfo, lol. ;)
I'm sure whoever built the system included a few of these tools, already. I'd fire it up and check what's installed already. There's gotta be something. :)
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Great thanks Zipper & Mike. Yes tried SysInfo before, but wasn't much help other than showing how much more powerful it is vs an A600! Also WhichAmiga didn't show the PPC for some reason.
There weren't any PPC tools installed so I installed WarpOS and looks like everything is working great! The showcase demo is nice and smooth, and PPC clock speed is showing 180MHz :)
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Yes. This is pretty much the 'holy grail' for people who want to obtain a classic Amiga. I would love one as would most Amiga fans. Good luck to the bidders on this. I thought about bidding but that's a hard sell to the wife haha. Besides, I'd just use to to play games and I can do that on my existing machine.
If I had to spend the cash on this or an X5000 I would choose this any day of the week. It will hold its value should I ever want to sell it down the road. It is the flagship of a classic computer range. The X5000 is just a PPC-based hobby board in a clone PC case.
I just could rationalize it myself, not with a 180 MHz PPC processor.
And I can play all the games just as well in an emulator.
So I'd buy the X5000, hobby board or not, it can run things I can't run on the 4000 or via an emulator.
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Very nice system! I wish I could convince myself that I should get one. I really would Like to have a PPC Amiga, but am actually more interested in the 68k machines anyhow.
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Very nice system! I wish I could convince myself that I should get it. For those that don't know, and I feel like a dick even mentioning this, but the new Phase 5 PPC boards go for 1500 themselves. I inquired about them a while back and my reaction was "I could almost buy one of the NG systems for that..." I really would Like to have a PPC Amiga, but am actually more interested in the 68k machines anyhow.
$1500? Ouch.
Have they produced anything yet?
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the new Phase 5 PPC boards go for 1500 themselves.
Where are you getting this pricing info from?
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Where are you getting this pricing info from?
Good question, since I haven't seen a photo of a fully populated board yet, let alone something for sale.
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I emailed them through their facebook page back in February.
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I emailed them through their facebook page back in February.
So, it may be worth it to some, 60mhz 060, and 400Mhz PPC, so not nothing to scoff at as far as old hardware goes. I just can't justify the price just so I can run OS4... Not to mention since it's about the same price as a full on machine that won't have the issue with being latched onto decaying hardware... But I guess for those that are really needing/wanting one, there you have it.
The 60MHz '060 is no great shakes, but the improvement in the PPC cpu is noteworthy. More than double the speed of the system being discussed here.
It would go a long way toward making legacy system tolerable for NG OS use.
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My CSPPC runs with a Rev 6 060 clocked at 75Mhz and a replacement PPC at 400Mhz as well, but it runs slightly OC at 410. It still doesnt run very well on OS4 due to the RAM limitations. For the money if I was looking to get a system for OS4 I would get an X5000.
For classic OS3.X I wouldnt pass on it if I needed one though, hands down the best Amiga I own.
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My CSPPC runs with a Rev 6 060 clocked at 75Mhz and a replacement PPC at 400Mhz as well, but it runs slightly OC at 410. It still doesnt run very well on OS4 due to the RAM limitations. For the money if I was looking to get a system for OS4 I would get an X5000.
For classic OS3.X I wouldnt pass on it if I needed one though, hands down the best Amiga I own.
Difficult to find at a "reasonable" price, sadly. I have two dead ones over at AmigaKit right now. They can't fix either of them so I'm working on getting it off to someone else for a try.
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Difficult to find at a "reasonable" price, sadly. I have two dead ones over at AmigaKit right now. They can't fix either of them so I'm working on getting it off to someone else for a try.
Sadly they are nearly impossible to repair if you dont have some very expensive gear. I dont see myself every having the money to get it, or at least justify getting.
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Great thanks Zipper & Mike. Yes tried SysInfo before, but wasn't much help other than showing how much more powerful it is vs an A600!
You can double that figure again as SysInfo will read the 060 at half its true power. Use SysSpeed for 060 benchmarking.
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Difficult to find at a "reasonable" price, sadly. I have two dead ones over at AmigaKit right now. They can't fix either of them so I'm working on getting it off to someone else for a try.
Stan on AmiBay repairs and upgrades them. Might want to drop him a line. I've got 3 boards he worked on and the work is great. His prices are ok but the cost of shipping there and back are high but not his fault.
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Stan on AmiBay repairs and upgrades them. Might want to drop him a line. I've got 3 boards he worked on and the work is great. His prices are ok but the cost of shipping there and back are high but not his fault.
I sent my cyberstorm mk1 off to him, but sadly it was far too gone, so he rigged up the 040-060 adapter for me and now I've got that with the 3.9 kickstarts in my system. I need to figure out where he got that heatsink, so I can get one for my Atari Falcon's CT60e :P
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Stan on AmiBay repairs and upgrades them. Might want to drop him a line. I've got 3 boards he worked on and the work is great. His prices are ok but the cost of shipping there and back are high but not his fault.
I also repair and upgrade Cyberstorm PPCs and Blizzard PPCs.
http://www.amibay.com/showthread.php?87713-Cyberstorm-PPC-repaired-and-supercharged