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Title: Can't format new defined partitions
Post by: Nick_66 on February 05, 2017, 05:10:38 PM
Hi,

I am trying to prepare a 4gb CF with WINuae and having lots of trouble doing this :angry:

First of all I cleaned the CF with the tool Diskpart.

I managed to partition the 4gb into two partitions with the HDtool.

The first I named DH0 (bootable) and the second DH1. Transfer rate = 1fe00

After a restart the first bootable partition pops up as DH0:NDOS and the second as Games? The last partition pops up as Games. I did formatted that partition as Games earlier with a different WINuae setup.

I would have expect that the second partition would be displayed as DH1:NDOS

When I try to format DH0 the format tool does not show up. I can't format it.

What could be wrong here?

Appreciate all the help!
Title: Re: Can't format new defined partitions
Post by: Thomas on February 05, 2017, 08:16:02 PM
Quote from: Nick_66;821577
I would have expect that the second partition would be displayed as DH1:NDOS


If you recreate the entry in the partition table exactly as it was before, then the partition will appear again as it was before. Editing the partition table does not touch the actual partitions.

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When I try to format DH0 the format tool does not show up. I can't format it.


I don't undertstand what you mean by that. The Format program does not run? When you double click Sys:System/Format, it does not open? Nothing happens? What if you run it from a Shell?

format drive dh0: name Workbench noicons quick
Title: Re: Can't format new defined partitions
Post by: Nick_66 on February 06, 2017, 05:35:09 PM
Quote from: Thomas;821591
I don't undertstand what you mean by that. The Format program does not run? When you double click Sys:System/Format, it does not open? Nothing happens? What if you run it from a Shell?


My WINuae config is as follows:

- A500+
- Kickstart 2.04
- Fastmem 4mb
- WB 3.1

Tried a A600 config:

- Fastmem 4mb
- WB 3.1
- Kickstart 2.05

Same problem with the A600 config.

The format program does not start. Not when double clicking Sys:System/Format or from a Shell.

The strange thing is when I chose a A1200 with WB 3.1 it works! :confused:

Very strange and I don't have a glue what could be wrong?????
Title: Re: Can't format new defined partitions
Post by: Thomas on February 06, 2017, 05:56:17 PM
WB 3.1 requires Kickstart 3.0 or higher.
Title: Re: Can't format new defined partitions
Post by: Nick_66 on February 06, 2017, 06:56:20 PM
Quote from: Thomas;821659
WB 3.1 requires Kickstart 3.0 or higher.


Thanks for your answer. Could that be the reason? :(

Where can I download older WB versions?
Title: Re: Can't format new defined partitions
Post by: Nick_66 on February 06, 2017, 07:04:27 PM
WINuae is driving me nuts at the moment!

I have cleaned my CF with diskpart and started  WINuae with the next config:

- A500+
- Kickstart 3.1
- WB 3.1
- Fastmem 4mb

When I start HDToolBox, my CF does not show up in the list.

Strange, because it worked before?
Title: Re: Can't format new defined partitions
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on February 06, 2017, 07:17:38 PM
Quote from: Nick_66;821667
Where can I download older WB versions?

Instead of going back, you should be going forward.  Upgrade to 3.1/3.9 for an easier experience.  Unless of course, you enjoy banging your head against the wall.  ;)
Title: Re: Can't format new defined partitions
Post by: Nick_66 on February 06, 2017, 07:23:02 PM
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;821671
Instead of going back, you should be going forward.  Upgrade to 3.1/3.9 for an easier experience.  Unless of course, you enjoy banging your head against the wall.  ;)

I have a A500+ with the new ACA500plus and would like to prepare a 4gb CF and install games onto it.

I find it very strange why I don't see my CF in HDToolBox. It all worked before so I can't explain why it doesn't work anymore.

UPDATE:

I just installed WinUAE on my Windows 10 laptop and now I am having another problem with WinUAE. When I want to browse to my WB floppy, I get an error: WinUAE has stopped working....

Would really appreciate some help!
Title: Re: Can't format new defined partitions
Post by: paul1981 on February 06, 2017, 07:51:19 PM
Quote from: Nick_66;821672
I have a A500+ with the new ACA500plus and would like to prepare a 4gb CF and install games onto it.

I find it very strange why I don't see my CF in HDToolBox. It all worked before so I can't explain why it doesn't work anymore.

UPDATE:

I just installed WinUAE on my Windows 10 laptop and now I am having another problem with WinUAE. When I want to browse to my WB floppy, I get an error: WinUAE has stopped working....

Would really appreciate some help!


Are you certain the drive is added in WinUAE? Does WinUAE acknowlege it correctly?
Title: Re: Can't format new defined partitions
Post by: Nick_66 on February 06, 2017, 07:56:59 PM
Quote from: paul1981;821675
Are you certain the drive is added in WinUAE? Does WinUAE acknowlege it correctly?

As soon when I want to browse and virtually insert a WB floppy WinUAE crashes and stops working. Have downloaded the latest version.

I am almost at the point banging my head to the wall!

My guess is that the combination of WinUAE and Windows 10 is the problem.

On my desktop PC with Windows 7 I don't have the problem that WinUAE crashes, only that my CF is not regonized in HDToolBox.
Title: Re: Can't format new defined partitions
Post by: SnkBitten on February 06, 2017, 08:04:27 PM
I run Win10 Pro x64 and WinUAE with no issues at all so I think something else is causing the issue.

I actually use a CF Card to boot my WinUAE emulation of an A4000T as my actual A4000T boots off a CF Card as well and I was duplicating it's setup as close as possible.
Title: Re: Can't format new defined partitions
Post by: Nick_66 on February 06, 2017, 08:06:27 PM
Quote from: SnkBitten;821680
I run Win10 Pro x64 and WinUAE with no issues at all.


I have Windows 10 Home on my laptop.
Title: Re: Can't format new defined partitions
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on February 06, 2017, 08:22:42 PM
Quote from: Nick_66;821672
I have a A500+ with the new ACA500plus and would like to prepare a 4gb CF and install games onto it.

Didn't this question already get answered elsewhere?  You shouldn't need any additional hardware to prep a CF card or copy files, with the new ACA500Plus.  I don't own one, but at least according to the product website everything you need to be able to do that is built-in.  ;)

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"The ACA500plus comes with essential software pre-installed in it's large flash. This includes fully licensed Kickstart versions V1.2 and V1.3 for backwards-compatibility, and Kickstart V3.1 for running the final version of the OS that Commodore has published. You've lost your installation disks of the OS? Not a problem with the ACA500plus. A full installer for OS3.1 is included in the product. All you need is an empty CF card, and you can install OS3.1 with a few key presses. After that's done, you can use the second CF card slot to exchange data with a modern PC: The ACA500plus supports PC-formatted cards and long filenames out of the box, no special installation required."
https://icomp.de/shop-icomp/en/produkt-details/product/ACA500plus.html
Title: Re: Can't format new defined partitions
Post by: Nick_66 on February 06, 2017, 08:42:07 PM
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;821683
Didn't this question already get answered elsewhere?  You shouldn't need any additional hardware to prep a CF card or copy files, with the new ACA500Plus.  I don't own one, but at least according to the product website everything you need to be able to do that is built-in.  ;)


I know and it is easy to install a 4gb CF with the new ACA500plus, but how do I install WB Classic Lite and install all the WHDLoad games onto my CF?

I have followed the following tutorial on Youtube to install WB Classic Lite with a A1200 config in WinUAE.

https://youtu.be/1k1328geyI8
Title: Re: Can't format new defined partitions
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on February 06, 2017, 09:29:10 PM
Quote from: Nick_66;821684
I know and it is easy to install a 4gb CF with the new ACA500plus, but how do I install WB Classic Lite and install all the WHDLoad games onto my CF?

I assume you're asking because your A500 doesn't have an Internet connection to download the installer?

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you can use the second CF card slot to exchange data with a modern PC: The ACA500plus supports PC-formatted cards and long filenames out of the box, no special installation required."
So, download on your PC, transfer to your Amiga via the second CF slot, and done. :)

Although IMHO I would avoid "Classic Workbench". Makes the system too un-Amiga-like, in my opinion, and can cause other issues if you're unfamiliar with the exact nature of the changes. Check out "BetterWB (http://lilliput.amiga-projects.net/BetterWB.htm)" if you really want some kind of upgrade pack, instead.  My .02 cents. ;)
Title: Re: Can't format new defined partitions
Post by: som99 on February 06, 2017, 10:09:12 PM
Quote from: Nick_66;821672
I have a A500+ with the new ACA500plus and would like to prepare a 4gb CF and install games onto it.

I find it very strange why I don't see my CF in HDToolBox. It all worked before so I can't explain why it doesn't work anymore.


Have you set the controller as UAE or IDE? If UAE have you changed SCSI_DVICE_NAME from scsi.device to uaehf.device? To get there left click HDToolbox once (to select it) then go to Information in the menu or press Amiga+I key.
Title: Re: Can't format new defined partitions
Post by: Nick_66 on February 07, 2017, 09:20:18 PM
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;821686

Although IMHO I would avoid "Classic Workbench". Makes the system too un-Amiga-like, in my opinion, and can cause other issues if you're unfamiliar with the exact nature of the changes.

What do you exactly mean by makes the system too un-Amiga like?

If I install BetterWB, how do I install WHDLoad afterwards? I am only familiar with Classc WB Lite where WHDLoad is installed in the package.
Title: Re: Can't format new defined partitions
Post by: Nick_66 on February 07, 2017, 09:21:15 PM
Quote from: som99;821690
Have you set the controller as UAE or IDE? If UAE have you changed SCSI_DVICE_NAME from scsi.device to uaehf.device? To get there left click HDToolbox once (to select it) then go to Information in the menu or press Amiga+I key.


When adding a CF as a harddrive in WinUAE do I have to set it as UAE or IDE?

Going to check that setting you mentioned.
Title: Re: Can't format new defined partitions
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on February 07, 2017, 09:44:51 PM
Quote from: Nick_66;821730
What do you exactly mean by makes the system too un-Amiga like?

I mean they change the way basic tasks are performed in an unexpected  manner.  For example if on a regular Amiga you click 'x' to get 'y'  result, some of these enhancer packs change things around so you'll get  'z', instead.

Sometimes it's an improvement.

Other times it just frustrates the heck out of someone who's used to doing something the same way for 30 years and makes troubleshooting an absolute nightmare.  :(

Quote from: Nick_66;821730
If I install BetterWB, how do I install WHDLoad afterwards?

Download WHDLoad_usr_small.lha (http://whdload.de/whdload/WHDLoad_usr_small.lha) from the WHDLoad website (http://whdload.de/).
Title: Re: Can't format new defined partitions
Post by: Nick_66 on February 08, 2017, 12:28:57 PM
I just prepared a 4gb CF on my PC with BetterWB installed on it.

BetterWb has the same look and feel like Amiga Workbench so makes it more easy for me to use.

Installed WHDload and copied some games over to the second partition.

Works really easy!

Only program that I am missing is Dopus. The latest version needs a 68020 or higher, but that won't be a problem soon, because yesterday I ordered the ACA1221ec from Individual Computers.
Title: Re: Can't format new defined partitions
Post by: Nick_66 on February 09, 2017, 10:44:21 PM
Today I received the new ACA1221ec from Individual Computers. Really fast delivery by the way!!

Plugged it onto my ACA500plus and booted up my Amiga. Started Opus version416 and it works great! Like Opus better then DirWorks.

Only question I have about Opus:

I have installed Classic Wb Lite onto my A1200 and I noticed that Opus on my A1200 looks different then on my Amiga 500. It seems that LHA extractor is integrated into Opus on my A1200 and not on my A500. Am I mistaking or is there a way to integrate LHA extractor into Opus?
Title: Re: Can't format new defined partitions
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on February 09, 2017, 10:49:18 PM
Quote from: Nick_66;821864
I noticed that Opus on my A1200 looks different then on my Amiga 500. It seems that LHA extractor is integrated into Opus on my A1200 and not on my A500. Am I mistaking or is there a way to integrate LHA extractor into Opus?

All of these directory utilities are completely customizable.  I'm not familiar with the ins and outs of Dopus, but a quick google search for "amiga dopus manual" turns up a lot of links.  Maybe you can find one for whatever version you're using?
Title: Re: Can't format new defined partitions
Post by: paul1981 on February 10, 2017, 08:49:47 PM
Quote from: Nick_66;821864

Only question I have about Opus:

I have installed Classic Wb Lite onto my A1200 and I noticed that Opus on my A1200 looks different then on my Amiga 500. It seems that LHA extractor is integrated into Opus on my A1200 and not on my A500. Am I mistaking or is there a way to integrate LHA extractor into Opus?


It's just a different configuration file. You can create your own by editing the settings yourself from within Dopus, or you can download custom ones from aminet. Or, you can copy the configuration file from your A1200 to your A500. Just show all files in the Dopus drawer and copy the configuration file to your A500 Dopus drawer. There may be other files too which may need copying, but I THINK they are all contained in the Dopus drawer anyway. If I'm wrong then so be it, I'm open to ridicule. :laughing:
Title: Re: Can't format new defined partitions
Post by: Nick_66 on February 15, 2017, 08:27:12 PM
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;821866
All of these directory utilities are completely customizable.  


After I installed a fresh Classic WB on a cf card I checked the settings of Dopus and you are correct, it´s completely customizable.

Thanks for the help!