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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Marketplace => Topic started by: rednova on February 03, 2017, 02:14:11 AM
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Hi all :
I am very happy with my unaccelerated amiga 2000, is perfect for 2d graphics
and animations.
But i really would love to buy an amiga 4000 with a 040 accelerator later.
How much is a fair price to acquire one ?
Thank you very much !!!
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If you only want a little more speed, you're better off getting an accelerator for your 2000. A 4000 is a good choice if you need *both* AGA and Zorro III slots for further expansion. I think a stock 4000 is going to be $600 these days, minimum. Probably more.
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Depends what else is in there and if that too is something you're looking to acquire.
I shopped around for a long time until I could find the near-vanilla A4000 as I was going to put a Mediator card into it. I finally found one with an 040/40 and not much else. It was around A$500 and I felt that was a fair price.
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If you only want a little more speed, you're better off getting an accelerator for your 2000. A 4000 is a good choice if you need *both* AGA and Zorro III slots for further expansion. I think a stock 4000 is going to be $600 these days, minimum. Probably more.
And a faster Workbench/OS. There's a fair usability and experience difference between my A2000 040 and my A4000D 040 in 3.9.
I think $990 is a fair price. Do you wanna buy one? :)
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Hi all :
I am very happy with my unaccelerated amiga 2000, is perfect for 2d graphics
and animations.
But i really would love to buy an amiga 4000 with a 040 accelerator later.
How much is a fair price to acquire one ?
Thank you very much !!!
My advice - don't go chasing rainbows. Use and learn and enjoy what you have. However, a bit of extra CPU grunt over a 68000 would be nice for you. If you're serious about upgrading then you'd be better off waiting for the Vampire for your A2000 as it will be cheaper than going the A4000/68040 route.
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An A2000 with a Vampire accelerator would outperform most A4000s anyway.
So its really down to AGA graphics, which the Vampire is supposed to eventually implement.
And A2000's have reliable capacitors that don't kamikaze your system.
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Hi all :
I am very happy with my unaccelerated amiga 2000, is perfect for 2d graphics
and animations.
But i really would love to buy an amiga 4000 with a 040 accelerator later.
How much is a fair price to acquire one ?
Thank you very much !!!
At AmiWest 2016, I sold a 4000 in good shape, no battery issues for $100.
so, come to AmiWest 2017!
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I agree that getting a Vampire board is the best option. Both cheaper and faster than an A4000/040 and you get some extra features like RTG, which alone would cost hundreds more to add to any Amiga via Zorro or PCI.
If you can wait for the standalone Vampire board then you'll have a nice small, quiet and that can sit alongside the A2000 and use far less power than the A4000/040.
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And a faster Workbench/OS. There's a fair usability and experience difference between my A2000 040 and my A4000D 040 in 3.9.
I think $990 is a fair price. Do you wanna buy one? :)
C'mon Gertsy, you know Americans can't afford $A990 with their economy trumpily about to crash ;)
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Your first born should be enough payment.
OP is in USA, so I'm wondering if it has anything to do with the 2x 4000's up for sale on Amibay at the moment with preferred buying in USA.
I need to go to Amiwest to pick up SACC-guy specials. if you got any more let me know, I don't mind the expensive shipping.. :P
Edit - a towered a1200 be a little bit cheaper and give you AGA. hey even a traditional a1200 case is nice and compact compared to a big boxed amiga.. I think the main attraction for a 4000 is just to have the last top end Amiga :P
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C'mon Gertsy, you know Americans can't afford $A990 with their economy trumpily about to crash ;)
I disagree with your prediction. Take a good long look after 1 year.
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At AmiWest 2016, I sold a 4000 in good shape, no battery issues for $100.
so, come to AmiWest 2017!
$100! That was a deal for whoever bought it. If you look at eBay sales most basic A4000s sell for around $700 (I sold one just last year and it sold for $760USD)
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At AmiWest 2016, I sold a 4000 in good shape, no battery issues for $100.
so, come to AmiWest 2017!
Shoot, that's worth the plane ticket! :D
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At AmiWest 2016, I sold a 4000 in good shape, no battery issues for $100.
so, come to AmiWest 2017!
Damn, even I could afford that......
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Thank you all for the replies.
I have a great pentium system with original lightwave 3d.
Is super fast and powerful, and don't need amiga for 3d/cgi.
I can even run aladdin 4d in emulation and is 20 times faster than a 040.
My amiga is excelent for what I use, brilliance, deluxe paint 4, and
moviesetter and disney animation studio for 2d cartoons.
My amiga 2000 is 68000, but is perfect for my artistic needs.
I just wanted to get an 040 to render aladdin 4d in amiga native mode,
but is not needed. I look forward to get a vampire board.
Thank you all for replying.
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@rednova,
Since my Tekmagic 060 died the Vampire is really the only option. Saving funds.........
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I thnk it will be some time before Vampire comes out in 200 pin CPU version for A3000/A4000.
Making it Zorro III compatible is no small job. Is a very difficult thing to get right. Vampires up to now have been for 16 bit Amiaga, only now are the people talking about A1200 version and sourcing components for a build.
Will be a stepping stone I think, to an A3000/A4000 Vampire. Best saved till last, maybe. Also technically most difficult. But what an upgrade. :) One day maybe.
OT, I don't think I could ever afford the upkeep of either A3000 or A4000 anymore. Zorro III is an expensive option, it's not just the cost of the base machine, the expansions cards are not cheap either.
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C'mon Gertsy, you know Americans can't afford $A990 with their economy trumpily about to crash ;)
I think you will probably find the opposite is true Kesa. He may be a dick but he knows how to make money make money and make jobs make jobs. My key point was that the UX on a 4000 is faster and more usable/productive than that of a 2000, even when both have a similar 040 in them. That's one of the reasons my 2000 is sleeping in storage while my 4000 is on the desk I sit at.
@rob, You might need to be a vampire to be around long enough to see it come out. ;)
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but he knows how to make money make money and make jobs make jobs
If you read into the lists of small businesses he's screwed over (hint: it's in the thousands), and the number of times he's declared bankruptcy in order to get out of paying his debts, you might feel differently about this statement. But let's not turn this thread all political, eh? ;)