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Title: Hot to get rid of non-dos ghost drives on main window
Post by: pneron on January 02, 2017, 08:05:33 PM
I have installed/partitioned some new drives during my 3.9 upgrade.
I also have a few residual "non-dos drives" that I cannot use due to size of new drive partitions. Is there anyway of getting rid of these drives on main screen...hiding them is fine for now.

Thanks
Title: Re: Hot to get rid of non-dos ghost drives on main window
Post by: zipper on January 02, 2017, 09:43:51 PM
Tick them on Prefs/Workbench/hidden devices
Title: Re: Hot to get rid of non-dos ghost drives on main window
Post by: QuikSanz on January 02, 2017, 09:58:48 PM
Quote from: pneron;818767
I have installed/partitioned some new drives during my 3.9 upgrade.
I also have a few residual "non-dos drives" that I cannot use due to size of new drive partitions. Is there anyway of getting rid of these drives on main screen...hiding them is fine for now.

Thanks


It's a left over .info file that has no home. use a shell to delete.
Title: Re: Hot to get rid of non-dos ghost drives on main window
Post by: pneron on January 02, 2017, 10:47:00 PM
Thank you !
Title: Re: Hot to get rid of non-dos ghost drives on main window
Post by: pneron on January 03, 2017, 01:15:19 AM
I cannot see these drives from a Shell. They only appear on my WB screen at boot-up and the only thing I can do (unsuccessfully) is to try and format them - which prompts me with "Non-DOS" error (the icons on my WB screen state them as "unreadable")  These are unused space areas from my format drive.
Title: Re: Hot to get rid of non-dos ghost drives on main window
Post by: QuikSanz on January 03, 2017, 01:48:37 AM
Quote from: pneron;818802
I cannot see these drives from a Shell. They only appear on my WB screen at boot-up and the only thing I can do (unsuccessfully) is to try and format them - which prompts me with "Non-DOS" error (the icons on my WB screen state them as "unreadable")  These are unused space areas from my format drive.


A dir search should show it as a .info file with no real file associated with it. If not something is really wrong here.
Title: Re: Hot to get rid of non-dos ghost drives on main window
Post by: magnetic on January 03, 2017, 02:34:29 AM
Quote from: zipper;818778
Tick them on Prefs/Workbench/hidden devices


@ OP this is the correct solution
Title: Re: Hot to get rid of non-dos ghost drives on main window
Post by: Rotzloeffel on January 03, 2017, 08:28:59 AM
Quote from: magnetic;818817
@ OP this is the correct solution

or use

assign dismount drive:

in user-startup
Title: Re: Hot to get rid of non-dos ghost drives on main window
Post by: paul1981 on January 03, 2017, 11:03:07 AM
Or go to HDToolbox and edit the partition(s) you want to hide and unselect 'Automount this partition' for each one. They can then be mounted in a shell with the mount command at your will. When you want them to automatically mount again you can go back into HDToolbox to reverse the changes.
Title: Re: Hot to get rid of non-dos ghost drives on main window
Post by: pneron on January 03, 2017, 11:24:36 AM
OK...will review these options everyone - thanks
Title: Re: Hot to get rid of non-dos ghost drives on main window
Post by: pneron on January 04, 2017, 03:18:59 AM
I do not "see" any of these options to del or remove the drives.

I have attached a screen shot HDToolbox. As per previous messages, I formatted a 300Gig drive into 7 active partitions. The "Ghost" drives I suspect have to do with perhaps "non-dos" areas of the drive ?
Title: Re: Hot to get rid of non-dos ghost drives on main window
Post by: QuikSanz on January 04, 2017, 03:32:29 AM
There must be a gap between partitions or some part of the drive not labeled yet, strange.
Title: Re: Hot to get rid of non-dos ghost drives on main window
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on January 04, 2017, 03:38:40 AM
Wow, that looks messy.  Out of curiosity, what happens if you drag them into BenchTrash?  ;)

Here's where the option to hide stuff like that is hidden:

(pic attached)

...There's gotta be a better way to unmount them, however.  Are there any other devices listed on the previous screen in HDToolbox?

Also, it makes baby jesus cry that you used FFS instead of PFS or SFS. :lol:
Title: Re: Hot to get rid of non-dos ghost drives on main window
Post by: pneron on January 04, 2017, 09:02:40 AM
That did the trick...Thanks Mike
Title: Re: Hot to get rid of non-dos ghost drives on main window
Post by: pneron on January 04, 2017, 10:50:43 AM
BTW: What version of WB is that "Ghostbuster"?
Title: Re: Hot to get rid of non-dos ghost drives on main window
Post by: paul1981 on January 04, 2017, 11:39:03 AM
Quote from: pneron;818934
I do not "see" any of these options to del or remove the drives.

I have attached a screen shot HDToolbox. As per previous messages, I formatted a 300Gig drive into 7 active partitions. The "Ghost" drives I suspect have to do with perhaps "non-dos" areas of the drive ?


Unpartitioned areas of the drive will not show up as anything on Workbench. Only mounted partitions will appear on Workbench. Your NDOS? partitions must be ones without filesystems (correctly) installed, or they need formatting.

In the photo, the checkbox for 'Automatically mount this partition' is behind the Change button. So for each partition you'd want to hide you'd select the partition, then press the Change button, then untick the aforementioned checkbox.
Title: Re: Hot to get rid of non-dos ghost drives on main window
Post by: pneron on January 04, 2017, 01:56:18 PM
In the photo, the checkbox for 'Automatically mount this partition' is behind the Change button

Thank Paul but are you referring to my photo or Mike's because I do not see that option on the HDTool?
Title: Re: Hot to get rid of non-dos ghost drives on main window
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on January 04, 2017, 02:23:27 PM
Quote from: pneron;818971
BTW: What version of WB is that "Ghostbuster"?


Running 3.9 + BB1-4 + about 25 years spent acquiring other hacks & patches and customizing. ;)
Title: Re: Hot to get rid of non-dos ghost drives on main window
Post by: kolla on January 04, 2017, 02:50:40 PM
Quote from: pneron;818993
In the photo, the checkbox for 'Automatically mount this partition' is behind the Change button

Thank Paul but are you referring to my photo or Mike's because I do not see that option on the HDTool?

Mark a partition and click on "change", and you will see a tick for "Automount", remove that and the partitions will not be attempted mounted by the OS, and will not appear as NDOS on Workbench.

Out of curiosity - why do you have them in the first place?

EDIT: OK, I read this thread some more - something is clearly very weird with your system. Do you have more hard drives attached?
Title: Re: Hot to get rid of non-dos ghost drives on main window
Post by: paul1981 on January 04, 2017, 03:40:01 PM
Quote from: pneron;818993
In the photo, the checkbox for 'Automatically mount this partition' is behind the Change button

Thank Paul but are you referring to my photo or Mike's because I do not see that option on the HDTool?


Your photo, a bit above the Cancel button. :)
Title: Re: Hot to get rid of non-dos ghost drives on main window
Post by: pneron on January 04, 2017, 04:22:15 PM
Thank you Paul, I will review tonight when I get home from work.

Also, to Kolla's question: As per previous thread (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=71166&highlight=300gig), I partitioned a 300Gig drive into a number drives (I have a lot of Audio files and need the space). It was suggested that I needed to use the advance feature and manually enter cylinder numbers into the input fields. I calculated what that was and entered the value.
Title: Re: Hot to get rid of non-dos ghost drives on main window
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on January 04, 2017, 04:30:37 PM
As a thought, before you get too far along, try coping a number of large files around from partition to partition.  Check for any write errors that might indicate potential future issues (such as Mask or MaxTransfer values being incorrect, etc.).  Just a bit of homework for ya!  :)
Title: Re: Hot to get rid of non-dos ghost drives on main window
Post by: pneron on January 04, 2017, 05:06:54 PM
yep ...did a bunch of these test/activities when I set up the drives. I even ran Studio16/B&P off all the drives to test the "integrity" of the drives
Title: Re: Hot to get rid of non-dos ghost drives on main window
Post by: paul1981 on January 04, 2017, 07:14:16 PM
Quote from: pneron;819020
Thank you Paul, I will review tonight when I get home from work.


Make sure that when you select the partition with the mouse from the graph that you don't move the partition around as that would move the partition start and end points causing data loss of that partition (if settings then saved). Press Cancel and go into it again if this happens. This shouldn't happen though as there should be no gaps if partitioned correctly (no wasted space) thus no possibility of movement on the graph. There may be a shortcut key to select different partitons like TAB or something.
Title: Re: Hot to get rid of non-dos ghost drives on main window
Post by: pneron on January 04, 2017, 08:06:24 PM
WOW...did not know that. Thanks.