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Title: The ACA500plus Just went on Sale!!!!
Post by: Acill on December 20, 2016, 05:03:17 PM
I just purchased the new ACA500plus! It went live for preordering today. Shipping to the USA for me was only $131

More info here:https://icomp.de/shop-icomp/en/shop/product/ACA500plus.html
Title: Re: The ACA500plus Just went on Sale!!!!
Post by: mindprober on December 20, 2016, 05:20:09 PM
Wow! Nice upgrade. Looks like there is more going on with the Plus version besides 8MB RAM.

I had the original ACA500 and loved it. Ultimately, I sold it and my A500 in favor of the A1200. I gained more desktop space too.  :D
Title: Re: The ACA500plus Just went on Sale!!!!
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on December 20, 2016, 05:28:16 PM
a 10MHz 68000 overclocked to 42MHz?  Hope it has a heatsink!  ;)

I like the easy install 3.1 option.  That's good for all those people who cry about busted floppy drives or not wanting to purchase new disks.  Nice list of features, overall.  And since (presumably) it will be available from resellers, that should appease the folks who don't want to deal with the Vampire wait-list.  Good price, too.  Just wish it was internal.

Now where's that guy fondpondforever who's always harping on about when will this thing will be available? :laughing:
Title: Re: The ACA500plus Just went on Sale!!!!
Post by: Acill on December 20, 2016, 05:28:24 PM
I'd much rather have something like this in my CDTV, but I couldnt pass up the price. The CDTV is nearly maxed now, but with the "new" A500+ I will be assembling when it ships out next month it will be a welcomed addition! The current 500 I have is in good shape, but not nearly as nice as the newly manufactured board will be in it!
Title: Re: The ACA500plus Just went on Sale!!!!
Post by: dovegrace on December 20, 2016, 05:34:25 PM
Quote from: Acill;817972
I just purchased the new ACA500plus! It went live for preordering today. Shipping to the USA for me was only $131

More info here:https://icomp.de/shop-icomp/en/shop/product/ACA500plus.html

Oh man, that's tempting... if I wasn't already in the process of fixing/upgrading my A4000D (and CDTV), I'd be all over this!
Title: Re: The ACA500plus Just went on Sale!!!!
Post by: dovegrace on December 20, 2016, 05:37:32 PM
Quote from: Acill;817977
I'd much rather have something like this in my CDTV


+1, I'd love to see a new CDTV accelerator myself (not holding my breath, though).
Title: Re: The ACA500plus Just went on Sale!!!!
Post by: kolla on December 20, 2016, 05:41:47 PM
Quote from: dovegrace;817980
+1, I'd love to see a new CDTV accelerator myself (not holding my breath, though).


Vampire2 for A500 should work in CDTV.
Title: Re: The ACA500plus Just went on Sale!!!!
Post by: klx300r on December 20, 2016, 05:46:02 PM
wow this can boost chip ram up to 1MB !:hammer::eek::D:insane::pint::knuddel:
Title: Re: The ACA500plus Just went on Sale!!!!
Post by: dovegrace on December 20, 2016, 05:46:05 PM
Quote from: kolla;817982
Vampire2 for A500 should work in CDTV.


Fair enough, although I'd rather take the "wait-and-see" approach to know that it would work for sure, and that it'd fit in the CDTV case without a lot of effort.
Title: Re: The ACA500plus Just went on Sale!!!!
Post by: Acill on December 20, 2016, 06:33:58 PM
Quote from: dovegrace;817984
Fair enough, although I'd rather take the "wait-and-see" approach to know that it would work for sure, and that it'd fit in the CDTV case without a lot of effort.


It physically fits mostly, but from what I've seen the case will not go on after its in and you have a CF card installed and HDMI.

Kinda pointless for a CDTV, but this ACA500plus will be amazing in my 500 and give it some life as a nice game system.
Title: Re: The ACA500plus Just went on Sale!!!!
Post by: Rob on December 20, 2016, 06:42:29 PM
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;817976
a 10MHz 68000 overclocked to 42MHz?  Hope it has a heatsink!  ;)


These modern 68000s are very good overclockers.  Yaqube's record with the Minimig is just over 56Mhz although not all will go that high.

Quote
Now where's that guy fondpondforever who's always harping on about when will this thing will be available? :laughing:


Is there a plexiglass case available?
Title: Re: The ACA500plus Just went on Sale!!!!
Post by: Iggy on December 20, 2016, 07:02:43 PM
Quote from: Rob;817991
These modern 68000s are very good overclockers.  Yaqube's record with the Minimig is just over 56Mhz although not all will go that high.



Is there a plexiglass case available?


Actually, the CMOS 68000s are good overclockers, but why Jens is overclocking a 10MHz component to 14MHz is baffling when there are 20MHz parts (and those overclock as high as 32MHz).

Still, a 68000 is not going to perform anywhere near as well as a 68020 or 68030.
Title: Re: The ACA500plus Just went on Sale!!!!
Post by: Acill on December 20, 2016, 08:03:25 PM
Quote from: Iggy;817992
Actually, the CMOS 68000s are good overclockers, but why Jens is overclocking a 10MHz component to 14MHz is baffling when there are 20MHz parts (and those overclock as high as 32MHz).

Still, a 68000 is not going to perform anywhere near as well as a 68020 or 68030.


I'm sure he got a large batch of them for a very good price like a ot of the parts he picks. The original ACA500 contains a lot of very old parts that I had a very difficult time sourcing when attempting to repair a couple of them sent to me.
Title: Re: The ACA500plus Just went on Sale!!!!
Post by: CodePoet on December 21, 2016, 01:46:19 AM
@Acill

Out of complete curiousity, what kind of problems did the cards sent to you have?
Title: Re: The ACA500plus Just went on Sale!!!!
Post by: save2600 on December 21, 2016, 01:50:34 AM
Quote from: CodePoet;818011
@Acill

Out of complete curiousity, what kind of problems did the cards sent to you have?

Ditto. My card has been working great since I purchased it. Also have a 1221 (original unlocked 64mb at 30+mhz and around 5mips) hooked to her and am pretty happy with the performance all told.

No real reason for me to go for the ACA500+, but glad it's finally available.

Am using my ACA500 with an original Phoenix mobo in my A1000 w/ 1mb Chip RAM. If the new model provided 2mb of Chip without me dinking around with a new Agnus and memory chips, would have purchased for sure. (I know it's not possible, just saying)    :lol:  

(already have the correct Agnus and RAM now, just can't be bothered to install yet)
Title: Re: The ACA500plus Just went on Sale!!!!
Post by: Acill on December 21, 2016, 02:14:04 AM
Quote from: CodePoet;818011
@Acill

Out of complete curiousity, what kind of problems did the cards sent to you have?


In both cases the owners put them on up side down. It fried a few of the chips. One was saved the other still no luck in getting it to boot. That one was put on an A1000 the wrong way, maybe its a worse situation on them?
Title: Re: The ACA500plus Just went on Sale!!!!
Post by: CodePoet on December 21, 2016, 07:50:36 AM
Quote
In both cases the owners put them on up side down. It fried a few of the chips. One was saved the other still no luck in getting it to boot. That one was put on an A1000 the wrong way, maybe its a worse situation on them?


Haha damn! That'd do it
Title: Re: The ACA500plus Just went on Sale!!!!
Post by: TheMagicM on December 21, 2016, 12:36:58 PM
Well this is good..  Now I can use my flicker fixer and not worry about it hitting the kipper2k board (which will be removed since I never soldered it in).    Time to dust off that A500.  :-)

Can you run the ACA500+ at 7mhz instead?  Dunno if some games will not like the 14mhz.
Title: Re: The ACA500plus Just went on Sale!!!!
Post by: Rob on December 21, 2016, 06:22:58 PM
Quote from: TheMagicM;818024
Well this is good..  Now I can use my flicker fixer and not worry about it hitting the kipper2k board (which will be removed since I never soldered it in).    Time to dust off that A500.  :-)

Can you run the ACA500+ at 7mhz instead?  Dunno if some games will not like the 14mhz.


With all these expansions, certain software may be incompatible. However, this is not a reason to unplug the ACA500plus, as it features an advanced cloaking mode that lets you downgrade the computer to standard memory configurations with minimal expansions (like Action Replay) or even no expansions at all, your choice of Kickstart ROM, running at the original 7MHz speed. Even if your computer does not have an internal 512k trapdoor memory expansion, the ACA500plus can not only add this, but even emulate the cycle-exact speed of the internal expansion with the same slow-down effects that an internal memory expansion has. In other words: There is no reason to unplug the ACA500plus at any time.
Title: Re: The ACA500plus Just went on Sale!!!!
Post by: kirk_m on December 21, 2016, 08:03:19 PM
Got mine on order as well.  I haven't been using my 500 lately because of the lack of an easy way to transfer files to it from my PC or Mac, but, this will bring the functionality of the 1200's PCMCIA port with a CF reader to the 500.  That, and there's a planned upgrade for a USB and network port on the ACA.
Title: Re: The ACA500plus Just went on Sale!!!!
Post by: TheMagicM on December 21, 2016, 11:52:46 PM
Quote from: Rob;818034
With all these expansions, certain software may be incompatible. However, this is not a reason to unplug the ACA500plus, as it features an advanced cloaking mode that lets you downgrade the computer to standard memory configurations with minimal expansions (like Action Replay) or even no expansions at all, your choice of Kickstart ROM, running at the original 7MHz speed. Even if your computer does not have an internal 512k trapdoor memory expansion, the ACA500plus can not only add this, but even emulate the cycle-exact speed of the internal expansion with the same slow-down effects that an internal memory expansion has. In other words: There is no reason to unplug the ACA500plus at any time.


Well if only I READ it.  Thanks!  Now there's no reason not to buy.
Title: Re: The ACA500plus Just went on Sale!!!!
Post by: fondpondforever on December 22, 2016, 12:13:26 PM
That's amazing that you can pre-order it now. Heard that there will be cases made for this hardware piece as well. When do you think they will be out? Thanks. Happy Christmas everyone! :):p:p
Title: Re: The ACA500plus Just went on Sale!!!!
Post by: save2600 on December 22, 2016, 12:31:37 PM
Quote from: fondpondforever;818071
That's amazing that you can pre-order it now. Heard that there will be cases made for this hardware piece as well. When do you think they will be out? Thanks. Happy Christmas everyone! :):p:p


Where are you going to be able to purchase these? Jens producing them too?
Title: Re: The ACA500plus Just went on Sale!!!!
Post by: fondpondforever on December 22, 2016, 12:59:21 PM
Maybe https://www.amiga-shop.net/ or from Individual Computers website.
Title: Re: The ACA500plus Just went on Sale!!!!
Post by: Acill on December 22, 2016, 01:43:28 PM
I've ordered mine directly from Jens site. Link in the first post.
Title: Re: The ACA500plus Just went on Sale!!!!
Post by: fondpondforever on December 22, 2016, 02:12:48 PM
We are talking about the physical cases for the accelerators that might be released soon. I remember the original ACA500 Plexiglas Case used to be for sale on the amiga-shop website but are now out of stock. Hopefully they will get the new ACA500 Plus Cases soon.
Title: Re: The ACA500plus Just went on Sale!!!!
Post by: kirk_m on December 22, 2016, 02:15:04 PM
Quote from: fondpondforever;818077
Maybe https://www.amiga-shop.net/ or from Individual Computers website.


I've only seen them listed on iComp.  The way I understand things, and I might be wrong, is that he is only producing the number of boards that are pre-ordered.  So, who knows, this might be a direct order only kind of product, with no resellers getting stock.  The pre-order has been updated now with a statement that demand is far greater than expected, and, that shipment of the product will be delayed until January, instead of sometime this week or next, as initially intended.
Title: Re: The ACA500plus Just went on Sale!!!!
Post by: fondpondforever on December 22, 2016, 02:20:51 PM
kirk_m, I am not talking about boards. I am talking about the Cases for the boards. Just read on a german commodore forum that there is a clear plexiglas case planned for release soon but not exactly sure when. CASES you understand not BOARDS, CASES CASES CASES is the subject of discusssion here!!! ;);):insane::)
Title: Re: The ACA500plus Just went on Sale!!!!
Post by: Rob on December 22, 2016, 02:36:47 PM
Quote from: fondpondforever;818087
Just read on a german commodore forum that there is a clear plexiglas case planned for release soon but not exactly sure when.


Then you probably know more than the rest of us here.
Title: Re: The ACA500plus Just went on Sale!!!!
Post by: save2600 on December 22, 2016, 02:40:21 PM
Agree it would be nice to have professional cases made for these and other bare-neked boards. Be even better if they were included at the time of sale.   :)
Title: Re: The ACA500plus Just went on Sale!!!!
Post by: Acill on December 22, 2016, 04:46:46 PM
Quote from: fondpondforever;818087
kirk_m, I am not talking about boards. I am talking about the Cases for the boards. Just read on a german commodore forum that there is a clear plexiglas case planned for release soon but not exactly sure when. CASES you understand not BOARDS, CASES CASES CASES is the subject of discusssion here!!! ;);):insane::)


No its not the subject here. This is my thread and I am sure I started it with the ACA500plus as the subject. If you want to ask about cases, go make a new thread please.
Title: Re: The ACA500plus Just went on Sale!!!!
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on December 22, 2016, 05:05:28 PM
Quote from: Acill;818096
No its not the subject here. This is my thread and I am sure I started it with the ACA500plus as the subject. If you want to ask about cases, go make a new thread please.

Oh lordy, do we really want more threads from this guy?  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: The ACA500plus Just went on Sale!!!!
Post by: klx300r on December 23, 2016, 03:20:27 AM
I wonder if I can get a pass through connector for this so I can use it at the beginning of my car train on my A1000 ?
Title: Re: The ACA500plus Just went on Sale!!!!
Post by: jj on December 23, 2016, 12:30:39 PM
Quote from: oldsmobile_mike;818097
oh lordy, do we really want more threads from this guy?  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

:) :) :) :)
Title: Re: The ACA500plus Just went on Sale!!!!
Post by: Acill on December 23, 2016, 02:37:59 PM
Looks like these have started showing up! A few posts over at A1k.org showing them arriving!
Title: Re: The ACA500plus Just went on Sale!!!!
Post by: kirk_m on December 23, 2016, 10:22:19 PM
Quote from: Acill;818130
Looks like these have started showing up! A few posts over at A1k.org showing them arriving!

And, looks like a few of those who have received it already are having issues.
Title: Re: The ACA500plus Just went on Sale!!!!
Post by: Acill on December 24, 2016, 02:36:51 AM
Quote from: kirk_m;818138
And, looks like a few of those who have received it already are having issues.


Really ? Like what?
Title: Re: The ACA500plus Just went on Sale!!!!
Post by: traal on December 24, 2016, 04:49:52 AM
It seems some accelerators don't like it when the ACA500plus is overclocked (http://www.a1k.org/forum/showpost.php?p=1021473&postcount=298).
Title: Re: The ACA500plus Just went on Sale!!!!
Post by: David Wright on December 24, 2016, 02:56:37 PM
Translation?
Title: Re: The ACA500plus Just went on Sale!!!!
Post by: kirk_m on December 24, 2016, 03:04:51 PM
Quote from: Acill;818149
Really ? Like what?


Three users on A1K said they had to power cycle about 10 times before the ACA500+ worked.   Really weird.  Then, one of them kept getting an error code ,for which there is no documentation yet, on the ACA's display.
Title: Re: The ACA500plus Just went on Sale!!!!
Post by: kirk_m on December 24, 2016, 03:07:59 PM
Quote from: David Wright;818162
Translation?


Jens response to issues is translated as:

The online documentation is not yet started, sorry. E0 is an exception, I know from memory.

Try it without overclocking, set at 14MHz. There are really (accelerator) cards that do not like overclocking.

Jens
Title: Re: The ACA500plus Just went on Sale!!!!
Post by: kneehighspy on December 25, 2016, 06:09:27 AM
will this work on an A1000 same as the ACA500 did?
Title: Re: The ACA500plus Just went on Sale!!!!
Post by: Acill on December 25, 2016, 06:25:26 AM
Quote from: kneehighspy;818180
will this work on an A1000 same as the ACA500 did?


No reason it shouldnt.  Just dont plug it in upside down. The CF slots would face back away from you too I believe. Ive  had to fix two from A1000 deaths,  original ACA500 though. One never worked again,  other did.
Title: Re: The ACA500plus Just went on Sale!!!!
Post by: Pgovotsos on March 09, 2017, 06:00:23 AM
Quote from: Rob;817991
Is there a plexiglass case available?


It's real easy to make one with some plexi and a heat gun. Basically 2 90s - 1 side computer edge to outside edge of ACA, next side down to desktop, last side 1" or so to make a foot to hold it up.
Title: Re: The ACA500plus Just went on Sale!!!!
Post by: David Wright on March 09, 2017, 01:23:08 PM
Jens says there are timing issues with the amiga 1000. Hit or miss with multiple resets to get it to work. Doesn't recommend but that hasn't stopped some people.
Title: Re: The ACA500plus Just went on Sale!!!!
Post by: TheMagicM on March 09, 2017, 01:57:24 PM
Just want to make sure I understand, the problems listed on A1k are because they are installing it in an Amiga 1000, correct?  So A500 users shouldnt have this problem?
Title: Re: The ACA500plus Just went on Sale!!!!
Post by: David Wright on March 09, 2017, 02:30:00 PM
Yes, problems are specific to the 1000.
Even at that, there are some who think it's worth it. I am still debating.
Great for the 500.