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Title: New Xorro Development Board?
Post by: fondpondforever on November 07, 2016, 11:44:39 PM
Hello, I saw the new Xorro Development Board (which is coming soon) on A-eon's website which looks very interesting and was wondering how it is different from the Project Board. Thanks.
Title: Re: New Xorro Development Board?
Post by: eliyahu on November 08, 2016, 02:12:02 AM
@fondpondforever

i think they're the same thing; just named differently on different sites. :)

-- eliyahu
Title: Re: New Xorro Development Board?
Post by: fondpondforever on November 08, 2016, 02:34:04 AM
They are different. If you look at the Appearance of the Development Board you can see new physical features on it that the Project Board doesn't have. Plus under the picture of the Dboard it says 'Coming Soon' whereas the Pboard has been out for a few years.
Title: Re: New Xorro Development Board?
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on November 08, 2016, 04:12:50 AM
Why do you care?  Do you even own a NG Amiga?  Have you ever seen anything developed using this board?

FWIW, I googled up pictures of what it is I assume you're talking about.  There does indeed appear to be two different designs.  Although I'd take anything on this website with a grain of salt.  ;)

Picture:
Title: Re: New Xorro Development Board?
Post by: polyp2000 on November 08, 2016, 07:53:29 AM
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;816204
Why do you care?  Do you even own a NG Amiga?  Have you ever seen anything developed using this board?

FWIW, I googled up pictures of what it is I assume you're talking about.  There does indeed appear to be two different designs.  Although I'd take anything on this website with a grain of salt.  ;)

Picture:


Has anyone done anything interesting with one of these yet , and do the newer boards also have this chip?
Title: Re: New Xorro Development Board?
Post by: Rob on November 08, 2016, 08:25:23 AM
Quote from: polyp2000;816207
Has anyone done anything interesting with one of these yet , and do the newer boards also have this chip?


Lyle Hazelwood seems to be the only one working on Xena/Xorro.  The XMOS chip and dedicated slot is also on the X5000 but not the A1222.
Title: Re: New Xorro Development Board?
Post by: kamelito on November 08, 2016, 12:06:39 PM
This remind me of the GeekPort available on the BeBox, don't know if it has been used for anything thought.
Kamelito
Title: Re: New Xorro Development Board?
Post by: billt on November 08, 2016, 02:19:15 PM
Quote from: fondpondforever;816191
Hello, I saw the new Xorro Development Board (which is coming soon) on A-eon's website which looks very interesting and was wondering how it is different from the Project Board. Thanks.


I'd love to see a tamplate pcb design with the connectirs in ol

place, that one could build upon. eagle or kicad, maybe eagle format as everything imports that...
Title: Re: New Xorro Development Board?
Post by: fondpondforever on November 08, 2016, 09:24:46 PM
I guess A-eon will announce it if it's a new board or not. To me it seems to have been put in the pipeline for the AmigaOne X5000 release. Would make sense but who knows hey.
Title: Re: New Xorro Development Board?
Post by: Rob on November 08, 2016, 10:09:54 PM
Quote from: fondpondforever;816232
I guess A-eon will announce it if it's a new board or not. To me it seems to have been put in the pipeline for the AmigaOne X5000 release. Would make sense but who knows hey.

There's no new board.  The semi populated one is the same board that Varisys used in this video from 2012.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5LLqe62_J8

All boards are full length, the smaller board in the photo was simply shortened with a hacksaw to demonstrate that you can cut it to size if need be.
Title: Re: New Xorro Development Board?
Post by: fishy_fiz on November 09, 2016, 06:29:58 AM
Still can't believe they wasted money reimplementing xorro/Xena on x5000.
Its painfully obvious that its a waste of space and money (pretty much zero use in 5 years on x1000,.... heck pretty much zero *ideas* about what to do with it still).

Dumbest idea in a long, long time in Amiga-land, and there's been some doozies.

"Let's make a hugely expensive machine that is outgunned by 10 year old systems and $99 modern devices and then add even more to the cost by adding a gimmick port that clearly has no practical use and will never actually get used....."

Only Amiga makes it possible,.......
Title: Re: New Xorro Development Board?
Post by: polyp2000 on November 09, 2016, 09:05:22 AM
Quote from: fishy_fiz;816242
Still can't believe they wasted money reimplementing xorro/Xena on x5000.
Its painfully obvious that its a waste of space and money (pretty much zero use in 5 years on x1000,.... heck pretty much zero *ideas* about what to do with it still).

Dumbest idea in a long, long time in Amiga-land, and there's been some doozies.

"Let's make a hugely expensive machine that is outgunned by 10 year old systems and $99 modern devices and then add even more to the cost by adding a gimmick port that clearly has no practical use and will never actually get used....."

Only Amiga makes it possible,.......


Slapping an FPGA in there would have been a way more interesting idea.
Title: Re: New Xorro Development Board?
Post by: fishy_fiz on November 09, 2016, 10:06:41 AM
Absolutely agree.
Not only more useful, but actually quite cool.
Title: Re: New Xorro Development Board?
Post by: fondpondforever on November 09, 2016, 01:22:37 PM
If it's the same Board as the Project Board why does it say 'Coming Soon' on there website. Do you think there will be a new Xorro Development Board released in the future for the AmigaOne X5000? Apart from the video link with lit LED's are there any other videos that Amiga User's have made with the Project Board. If not what other cool things could you do on this Board when installed in a Next Generation Amiga. Is it like a Arduino Board or is it different to this. Thanks.
Title: Re: New Xorro Development Board?
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on November 09, 2016, 05:32:31 PM
Quote from: fondpondforever;816258
If it's the same Board as the Project Board why does it say 'Coming Soon' on there website. Do you think there will be a new Xorro Development Board released in the future for the AmigaOne X5000? Apart from the video link with lit LED's are there any other videos that Amiga User's have made with the Project Board. If not what other cool things could you do on this Board when installed in a Next Generation Amiga. Is it like a Arduino Board or is it different to this. Thanks.

(1)  Because their website is utter %&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!e, and completely outdated.

(2)  Has anyone bought one?  I'm going to guess that number would be in the double-digits, at best.  Doesn't bode well for developing & releasing future boards if no one is interested in the ones available now.

(3)  Haven't you been reading this thread?  No, no one has developed jack-**** with these boards.

(4)  Arduino contains a processor and ports, and is basically like a mini self-contained computer.  It has absolutely 0% in common with the project board.

(5)  Are you just trolling with these questions?  Because really, this is getting pretty ridiculous.  :whack:  :madashell:  :madashell:
Title: Re: New Xorro Development Board?
Post by: fondpondforever on November 10, 2016, 11:44:18 AM
Thanks for your feedback. I wonder why these boards haven't been popular.
Title: Re: New Xorro Development Board?
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on November 10, 2016, 05:27:06 PM
Quote from: fondpondforever;816294
I wonder why these boards haven't been popular.

(https://i.imgflip.com/w6x8g.jpg)
Title: Re: New Xorro Development Board?
Post by: magnetic on November 11, 2016, 02:09:20 AM
oh man this whole "xorro" thing was quite a joke
Title: Re: New Xorro Development Board?
Post by: Rob on November 11, 2016, 10:51:31 PM
Quote from: fondpondforever;816294
Thanks for your feedback. I wonder why these boards haven't been popular.


1.  You need an X1000 which was only produced in limited numbers.

2.  You need an understanding of programming to be able to get the XMOS chip to do something.

3.  You need a good understanding of electronics so you can build something the XMOS chip can make use of, and without causing damage by overloading the circuits.

4.  You need to have an idea for something that could be useful to you and that the XMOS and Xorro slot are ideally suited to.

5.  You need to have time to actually work on a project.
Title: Re: New Xorro Development Board?
Post by: fondpondforever on November 14, 2016, 02:30:37 PM
Thanks for your help.