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Title: New pricing announced for MorphOS
Post by: TheMagicM on October 28, 2016, 11:52:00 PM
Effective as of 10/26/2016 the following are the prices for MorphOS:

The prices are 79 EUR for
- PowerBook G4 system
- iBook G4
- Power Mac G5
- eMac
- Mac mini G4
- Pegasos I
- Pegasos II
- PowerMac G4

The prices are 49 EUR for
- EfikaPPC
- Sam460 system

To clarify for individuals concerned about the loss of a keyfile investment due to defective hardware:
The hardware bound keyfile will be transferred free of charge to a replacement machine if ever required - not bound or time limited to the original registration date. The keyfile will also stay valid for every future MorphOS3 update that is ever going to be released.

The information has not been updated on the website yet but will be very soon.

Please visit http://www.morphos-team.net for additional information.
Title: Re: New pricing announced for MorphOS
Post by: Matt_H on October 29, 2016, 12:25:33 AM
I wonder if this means a new release is imminent...

Nice gesture of them, and I hope it gets some more users onboard.
Title: Re: New pricing announced for MorphOS
Post by: Iggy on October 29, 2016, 01:26:17 AM
Quote from: Matt_H;815795
I wonder if this means a new release is imminent...

Nice gesture of them, and I hope it gets some more users onboard.


? Why would a price drop signal the release of 3.10?
If you paid for it ahead of time, you'd still get the update free.
That's how the OS is distributed, no charge for later revisions to key holders.
Title: Re: New pricing announced for MorphOS
Post by: TheMagicM on October 29, 2016, 01:44:41 AM
Quote from: Iggy;815796
? Why would a price drop signal the release of 3.10?


Oh the destroyer of operating systems is coming!  Hide yo' kids, hide yo' wife!!!  IT'S COMING!!! UTTER OPERATING SYSTEM DESTRUCTION!! AAAAHHHHHHH!!!!
Title: Re: New pricing announced for MorphOS
Post by: iCreate on October 29, 2016, 02:15:05 AM
Nice timing. I've been upgrading my G5 with spare SSDs and RAM. I think I'll finally get the G5 on MOS.
Title: Re: New pricing announced for MorphOS
Post by: Debaser on October 29, 2016, 03:05:11 AM
@Iggy

I believe that there was a price drop on the Mac Mini and Efika license when Powermac and/or ibook support came with a 3.x release. Correct?
Title: Re: New pricing announced for MorphOS
Post by: Matt_H on October 29, 2016, 06:13:22 AM
Quote from: Iggy;815796
? Why would a price drop signal the release of 3.10?

Not saying that it does, merely that it could. i.e., they could promote 2 things at once - "New version 3.10! Now cheaper [for new users]!"

Quote
If you paid for it ahead of time, you'd still get the update free.
That's how the OS is distributed, no charge for later revisions to key holders.

I know, I have several MorphOS licenses :)
Title: Re: New pricing announced for MorphOS
Post by: LoadWB on October 29, 2016, 04:48:56 PM
I am ready for 3.10.  I would like to see working wireless on my MacMini and MacBook.  I also have five more MacMinis I would like to get up and running with MorphOS and hopefully make ready-to-run kits.

(Although, I'm not certain I like the idea of introducing 2.4GHz wireless into my environment when 5GHz works sooooooo damn well.)
Title: Re: New pricing announced for MorphOS
Post by: mpiva on October 29, 2016, 06:48:11 PM
How easy is it to set up a Sam460 to dualboot OS4 and MorphOS?
Title: Re: New pricing announced for MorphOS
Post by: Iggy on October 29, 2016, 07:58:35 PM
Quote from: mpiva;815822
How easy is it to set up a Sam460 to dualboot OS4 and MorphOS?


Not very easy at all.
But some are multi-booting MorphOS systems.
I have a friend with a Pegasos 2 that has it set up to boot MorphOS, OS4, Linux, and OSX.

BTW - Can anyone explain to me what the weird comment from the Texan mean?

And yes, the Efika's price went down awhile ago.

MorphOS 3.10 will be released when its ready and it runs on all supported systems.
Title: Re: New pricing announced for MorphOS
Post by: amyren on October 29, 2016, 08:30:02 PM
Quote from: LoadWB;815819
I am ready for 3.10.  I would like to see working wireless on my MacMini and MacBook.  I also have five more MacMinis I would like to get up and running with MorphOS and hopefully make ready-to-run kits.

(Although, I'm not certain I like the idea of introducing 2.4GHz wireless into my environment when 5GHz works sooooooo damn well.)


Wireless on my MacMini (1.5Mhz edition) have been working for quite a while now, cant remember from which version it started to work. But perhaps they did use different wifi chipsets in some models?
Title: Re: New pricing announced for MorphOS
Post by: Methanoid on October 29, 2016, 08:34:48 PM
Wake me when it gets to E49 for all systems... I thought it was E79 anyway, was it even more? Not interested yet...
Title: Re: New pricing announced for MorphOS
Post by: zylesea on October 29, 2016, 10:46:52 PM
Quote from: LoadWB;815819
I am ready for 3.10.  I would like to see working wireless on my MacMini and MacBook.  I also have five more MacMinis I would like to get up and running with MorphOS and hopefully make ready-to-run kits.

(Although, I'm not certain I like the idea of introducing 2.4GHz wireless into my environment when 5GHz works sooooooo damn well.)


Airport extreme is supported since quite while.
And it works well - at least on my Mac mini silent upgrade and okay on my Powerbook 5.6 (signal quaity is a bit weak there,  hence I stay with the Atheros pcmcia card which has a stronger signal quality - dunno if it's antennas or drivers which are better though)

While I am happy with 3.9 I am 3.10 ready as well ;-)
Title: Re: New pricing announced for MorphOS
Post by: Iggy on October 30, 2016, 02:41:58 AM
Quote from: Methanoid;815826
Wake me when it gets to E49 for all systems... I thought it was E79 anyway, was it even more? Not interested yet...


Yes, quite a bit more for the G5 actually.
And I'm not an advocate of reducing the license fee for other models to the level of the key for an Efika.
Don't want to spend an additional 20 euros?
Well you could always buy OS4 (and until the unimpressive Tabor board arrives additional expensive hardware that far negates the pricing advantage).

Frankly, I didn't have a problem with the older pricing schemes.
Title: Re: New pricing announced for MorphOS
Post by: agami on October 30, 2016, 06:18:44 AM
Nobody caught the fact that there is no X5000 pricing. I'm guessing that the price drop is indeed a precursor to announcing Morphs 3.10. And since most of the work over the past year has been about the X5000 it wouldn't make sense to charge people with G4/G5 Macs the full price.
Title: Re: New pricing announced for MorphOS
Post by: pVC on October 30, 2016, 07:58:46 AM
Quote from: amyren;815825
Wireless on my MacMini (1.5Mhz edition) have been working for quite a while now, cant remember from which version it started to work. But perhaps they did use different wifi chipsets in some models?


I don't think there are different chipsets... I think all internal wireless interfaces should already be supported in Mac minis, IBooks, and PowerBooks. Only thing that some models didn't come with internal WLAN by default. All 1.5GHz minis came with Airport, but lower specced models had it only optionally.
Title: Re: New pricing announced for MorphOS
Post by: kolla on October 30, 2016, 08:49:49 AM
"Airport" is Apple's euphemism for wifi - there is no "airport chipset", just regular wifi chipsets from the usual vendors, different from model to model. For example, G4 mac minis typically have a BCM4306 chipset from Broadcom on the PCI bus.
Title: Re: New pricing announced for MorphOS
Post by: Templario on October 30, 2016, 10:53:50 AM
Good news!
Title: Re: New pricing announced for MorphOS
Post by: Iggy on October 30, 2016, 01:01:13 PM
Quote from: agami;815837
Nobody caught the fact that there is no X5000 pricing. I'm guessing that the price drop is indeed a precursor to announcing Morphs 3.10. And since most of the work over the past year has been about the X5000 it wouldn't make sense to charge people with G4/G5 Macs the full price.


The X5000 license may carry a premium.
But we won't know until the day its released.
According to the few developers I know its not ready for release yet.
And while the X5000 port is one focus, they won't release until the new version works on all supported systems.
So there could be issues unrelated to the X5000.
Title: Re: New pricing announced for MorphOS
Post by: duga on October 30, 2016, 05:26:22 PM
Quote from: Methanoid;815826
Wake me when it gets to E49 for all systems... I thought it was E79 anyway, was it even more? Not interested yet...


It was €111 at most.
Title: Re: New pricing announced for MorphOS
Post by: LoadWB on October 30, 2016, 05:50:27 PM
Quote from: kolla;815841
"Airport" is Apple's euphemism for wifi - there is no "airport chipset", just regular wifi chipsets from the usual vendors, different from model to model. For example, G4 mac minis typically have a BCM4306 chipset from Broadcom on the PCI bus.

When I get time to work on them again I will start a new thread for assistance with my WiFi.  I have been running MorphOS on the MacMini since around 3.2 and it's been upgraded with every release.

EDIT: Ha!  MacMini wireless is working for me, so there we go.
Title: Re: New pricing announced for MorphOS
Post by: Lizard on October 30, 2016, 08:47:02 PM
Quote from: duga;815855
It was €111 at most.

That's not true, €111,11 was the introduction price, see the Morphos 2.0 announcement:
Quote
Please note that a MorphOS 2.0 key is available at 111,11 EUR (includes 19% VAT) as an introductory offer. On Tuesday, the 15th of July, the price will go up to 150 EUR (includes 19% VAT).
Then with the 2nd anniversary of Morphos 2.x the price was dropped to €111, and with the Morphos 3.0 release the drop became permanent.
Title: Re: New pricing announced for MorphOS
Post by: zylesea on October 30, 2016, 10:07:24 PM
Quote from: kolla;815841
"Airport" is Apple's euphemism for wifi - there is no "airport chipset", just regular wifi chipsets from the usual vendors, different from model to model. For example, G4 mac minis typically have a BCM4306 chipset from Broadcom on the PCI bus.


Aren't all airport extreme cards from Apple's  ppc era broadcom 43xx based? I mean MorphOS supports Atheros 5000 and Broadcom 43xx. And the drivers for these chipsets are rather fine.
Title: Re: New pricing announced for MorphOS
Post by: nicholas on October 31, 2016, 02:07:26 AM
Quote from: Lizard;815859
That's not true, €111,11 was the introduction price, see the Morphos 2.0 announcement:
Then with the 2nd anniversary of Morphos 2.x the price was dropped to €111, and with the Morphos 3.0 release the drop became permanent.


I'm sure that 11 cents was a deal breaker for millions.
Title: Re: New pricing announced for MorphOS
Post by: pVC on October 31, 2016, 06:42:10 AM
Quote from: nicholas;815879
I'm sure that 11 cents was a deal breaker for millions.


You missed the 150e era, which was there in the quote.
Title: Re: New pricing announced for MorphOS
Post by: pVC on October 31, 2016, 06:43:35 AM
Quote from: zylesea;815867
Aren't all airport extreme cards from Apple's  ppc era broadcom 43xx based? I mean MorphOS supports Atheros 5000 and Broadcom 43xx. And the drivers for these chipsets are rather fine.


That's what I meant in my original message before this unrelated thing was picked from it.
Title: Re: New pricing announced for MorphOS
Post by: nicholas on October 31, 2016, 03:03:38 PM
Quote from: pVC;815885
You missed the 150e era, which was there in the quote.


Whoosh! ;)