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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Marketplace => Topic started by: sammyfox on October 26, 2016, 02:09:04 AM
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(I'm not sure if this is the right place to post it so if it's not then sorry!)
Hi there, my name's Sammy and I'm one of those dreaded french Canadians (although as you can note, my English is nothing to sneeze at)
I've been wanting to get an Amiga 1200 for so many years, and now that I finally have a job (video game tester, I get minimum wage but that's still three times better than welfare), I can afford to get one.
The thing though, is how much should I be expected to pay for an amiga 1200?
Basically, This is my current roadmap for now:
- Get an amiga 1200;
- yay.
I figure I should get one of those usb floppy disk emulators things I see on ebay too so I don't have to bonk my head against a wall. I know that it's the 500 model people get for all the games you can play on it but for some reason I don't really know how to explain I'm more attracted to the 1200, especially for the expansion boards you can throw into it.
Ultimately, this is gonna sound dumb but I'd like to be able to connect to the internet, and play quake on the one I'd get so...
What other things should I look for? and how much would I be realistically expected to pay for them?
I'm kinda giving up on ebay for this because everybody sells even crap stuff (think the worst of apple's 90s computers) at a premium, and since I'm Canadian, and from Quebec of all places, I doubt I'd be able to find one of these in a yard sale so where else could I look?
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Hey welcome!
You could try the Amibay web site - you may find something there. Lots of buying and selling by Amigans. You will likely find something if you are patient for less than the crazy ebatty prices.
http://www.amibay.com/content.php
Cheers!
Greg
(another crazy Canadian on the left coast)
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Hey welcome!
You could try the Amibay web site - you may find something there. Lots of buying and selling by Amigans. You will likely find something if you are patient for less than the crazy ebatty prices.
http://www.amibay.com/content.php
Cheers!
Greg
(another crazy Canadian on the left coast)
That sounds neat owo thanks!
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- Get your system recapped as soon as you get one. Acill and many others here on the forums can help you with that. 20+ year old capacitors are almost certainly leaking, which can cause a host of problems (google it)
- Read the forums extensively. Pretty much any question you might have has been asked a time or six. ;)
- Get an Indivision if you plan on connecting to modern monitors
- Use a CF card instead of a hard drive
- WHDLoad is great for making old games run from hard drives
- AmigaKit and many other online sites still sell new expansion boards and other kit
- There was a recent Kickstarter campaign to make entirely new A1200 cases. At some point in the TBD future, there may be new motherboards produced, as well
- Big Book of Amiga Hardware and Amiga Resource CX are other good sites to learn more about hardware and expansions
- Certain models of PCMCIA network cards (including WiFi) can be used with an A1200
Welcome, and have fun! :)
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PS - you're going to be spending a lot of money on hardware if you want to be able to play Quake, even at minimum settings. While I would never want to discourage anyone from pushing old hardware to its limits, if you just want to play Quake, specifically, use an emulator (WinUAE, etc.).
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Also yes get one of the floppy emulators but spend the money on a well made one, not one of the Gotek junk ones. Recap is also a must, even if it doesnt look like it needs it, it does. I do them here in the US, but up in Canada I know someone did them on the East coast. Not sure if he is still out there.
For the Floppy Emulator I recommend one of these: http://amigastore.eu/en/219-sd-floppy-emulator-slim-he34.html
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PS - you're going to be spending a lot of money on hardware if you want to be able to play Quake, even at minimum settings. While I would never want to discourage anyone from pushing old hardware to its limits, if you just want to play Quake, specifically, use an emulator (WinUAE, etc.).
Oh y'know, emulators are nice but I wanna have a feel of the real thing :3 but I don't just wanna play quake. I'm sure there's a lot of other things I could run on a souped up 1200. Hell, I even heard of a port of firefox to amiga os and that's pretty sweet for something this old (I'm running tenfourfox on my old 2004 ibook g4 and that's pretty neat too)
As for modern screens, I was thinking of looking around for an amiga monitor, unless they're not worth the price?
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I even heard of a port of firefox to amiga os and that's pretty sweet for something this old (I'm running tenfourfox on my old 2004 ibook g4 and that's pretty neat too)
Timberwolf. No longer being developed. Again, you're going to have to spend a heck of a lot of money to run that on a classic system:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timberwolf_(web_browser)
This is a debatable topic, again just IMHO Chris's version of NetSurf is the most advanced browser for classic systems, but it's slooow and needs a lot of memory. Ibrowse is probably the best balance of speed & compatibility (I use that term "compatibility" pretty loosely, as you're not going to be updating your Facebook from it, or anything like that). I've found it's mostly good for reading news sites and downloading from Aminet. It hasn't been updated in over 10 years but occasionally a whisper comes up about some kind of update for it.
As for modern screens, I was thinking of looking around for an amiga monitor, unless they're not worth the price?
Not to me, but some people swear by 'em, especially for retro gaming. I guess if you like using a flickery 13" screen and pretending like it's 1992 all over again, have at it. LOL. But if you want to run modern applications at high resolutions, they're not going to cut the mustard. ;)
You might want to think about this plan a bit and try to figure out which way you want to go. Do you want a stock or mildly expanded system, with an old school monitor for retro gaming, or do you want a "pimped out" system capable of playing Quake, Timberwolf, etc.?
Also, what's your budget? Not trying to pick on you but you mention "minimum wage" and "barely being above welfare"... a high-end classic Amiga system can easily run $1,000+, depending on the parts you chose for it. Maybe an A500 or A600 would be cheaper for you, and with those you'll have the option of using one of the new Vampire accelerators, which give improved graphics and speeds exceeding even the 68060. No idea when (or if) the Vampire 1200 will ever come out.
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Timberwolf. No longer being developed. Again, you're going to have to spend a heck of a lot of money to run that on a classic system:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timberwolf_(web_browser)
This is a debatable topic, again just IMHO Chris's version of NetSurf is the most advanced browser for classic systems, but it's slooow and needs a lot of memory. Ibrowse is probably the best balance of speed & compatibility (I use that term "compatibility" pretty loosely, as you're not going to be updating your Facebook from it, or anything like that). I've found it's mostly good for reading news sites and downloading from Aminet. It hasn't been updated in over 10 years but occasionally a whisper comes up about some kind of update for it.
Not to me, but some people swear by 'em, especially for retro gaming. I guess if you like using a flickery 13" screen and pretending like it's 1992 all over again, have at it. LOL. But if you want to run modern applications at high resolutions, they're not going to cut the mustard. ;)
You might want to think about this plan a bit and try to figure out which way you want to go. Do you want a stock or mildly expanded system, with an old school monitor for retro gaming, or do you want a "pimped out" system capable of playing Quake, Timberwolf, etc.?
Also, what's your budget? Not trying to pick on you but you mention "minimum wage" and "barely being above welfare"... a high-end classic Amiga system can easily run $1,000+, depending on the parts you chose for it. Maybe an A500 or A600 would be cheaper for you, and with those you'll have the option of using one of the new Vampire accelerators, which give improved graphics and speeds exceeding even the 68060. No idea when (or if) the Vampire 1200 will ever come out.
Quite frankly I'm certainly not gonna be going around on twitter or anything with that, just like with tenfourfox on my ibook, but it's still an option and that's fine by me.
There are high-resolution programs for amiga computers? I don't really mind CRT screens. I was pretty much born around them (1988).
Minimum wage over here is 10.75$ per hour. I work five days a week full-time so that's 40 hours. after the taxes and such are taken I have around 730 dollars left, so about 1460 dollars per month and I only pay 520 dollars for my rent (1 room appartment, electricity, heating and hot water paid for) and after food and such, I got about... 600 dollars left for miscelleanous stuff? mind you, that's 600 canadian dollars so... about 450usd, or 369gbp, or 412 euros. That's why I'm looking for a regular, unmodified unit first since that way I'll be able to do my own little mods piece by piece while keeping things affordable.
I don't know if that makes sense to any of you but I'm fine with that plan
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Hi there,
Many good suggestions in this thread. Thought I'd add mine too.
- An Amiga 1200 with HD some extra memory hooked up to a CRT TV with a RGB-SCART adapter provides a brilliant nostalgic setup. In my opinion, using a CRT with such an adapter makes the classic Amiga look like its meant too, much less pixelated than on those LCD screens.
But... here is a cool solution that is kind of emulation, but also not.. It's called the MIST FPGA and it is like a little Amiga computer. I own it and it is awesome. I have it connected to a CRT screen and it looks beautiful!
At Amigastore.eu (this is where I got mine), you can customize the MIST FPGA with a pre-configured Amiga environment.
http://amigastore.eu/en/318-mist-fpga-computer.html
The MIST has old-school joystick-mouse ports btw.
I'm not saying you should go for either options, but these are worth considering. :)
I wish you luck in your Amiga adventure. A lot of the fun is looking at different options, comparing prices, performance etc. ;)
(I'm not sure if this is the right place to post it so if it's not then sorry!)
Hi there, my name's Sammy and I'm one of those dreaded french Canadians (although as you can note, my English is nothing to sneeze at)
I've been wanting to get an Amiga 1200 for so many years, and now that I finally have a job (video game tester, I get minimum wage but that's still three times better than welfare), I can afford to get one.
The thing though, is how much should I be expected to pay for an amiga 1200?
Basically, This is my current roadmap for now:
- Get an amiga 1200;
- yay.
I figure I should get one of those usb floppy disk emulators things I see on ebay too so I don't have to bonk my head against a wall. I know that it's the 500 model people get for all the games you can play on it but for some reason I don't really know how to explain I'm more attracted to the 1200, especially for the expansion boards you can throw into it.
Ultimately, this is gonna sound dumb but I'd like to be able to connect to the internet, and play quake on the one I'd get so...
What other things should I look for? and how much would I be realistically expected to pay for them?
I'm kinda giving up on ebay for this because everybody sells even crap stuff (think the worst of apple's 90s computers) at a premium, and since I'm Canadian, and from Quebec of all places, I doubt I'd be able to find one of these in a yard sale so where else could I look?
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PS - you're going to be spending a lot of money on hardware if you want to be able to play Quake, even at minimum settings. While I would never want to discourage anyone from pushing old hardware to its limits, if you just want to play Quake, specifically, use an emulator (WinUAE, etc.).
OR, if you are using a PC anyway, play the PC version of Quake, which is going to work better anyway.
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Quite frankly I'm certainly not gonna be going around on twitter or anything with that, just like with tenfourfox on my ibook, but it's still an option and that's fine by me.
There are high-resolution programs for amiga computers? I don't really mind CRT screens. I was pretty much born around them (1988).
Minimum wage over here is 10.75$ per hour. I work five days a week full-time so that's 40 hours. after the taxes and such are taken I have around 730 dollars left, so about 1460 dollars per month and I only pay 520 dollars for my rent (1 room appartment, electricity, heating and hot water paid for) and after food and such, I got about... 600 dollars left for miscelleanous stuff? mind you, that's 600 canadian dollars so... about 450usd, or 369gbp, or 412 euros. That's why I'm looking for a regular, unmodified unit first since that way I'll be able to do my own little mods piece by piece while keeping things affordable.
I don't know if that makes sense to any of you but I'm fine with that plan
$520 Canadian dollars for rent?
Oh hell, time to move north.
Minimum wage in Canada, with health care, doesn't sound so bad.
BTW - The iBook will run MorphOS.
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Minium setup for a Quake, so that is remotely playable is 68040 40mhz.
With that kind of setup you will get 6-10fps with 80% screen size, some times faster. With 68060 66mhz you will get 10-16fps with 80% screen size.
Some times is possible to get 68040 accelerator budget price. Those are usually yhay kind of accelerator wich can't be upgraded 68060 accelerators.
For me, I think that 68040 is absolute minuum. Prety much every amiga game ever made is playable. Workbench is confotable fast even with 640x512 resolution.
easy / budget solution for a nice resolutions would be scart to hdmi converter. Unless you could get LCD-TV with scart connector? But I ques SCART is unkown in Canada just like it is unkonw in U.S.A
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OR, if you are using a PC anyway, play the PC version of Quake, which is going to work better anyway.
My thought exaclty...
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OR, if you are using a PC anyway, play the PC version of Quake, which is going to work better anyway.
Sure it will work better, but it's not so much "fun".
I'd recommend a PlayStation for retro 3d games.
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OR, if you are using a PC anyway, play the PC version of Quake, which is going to work better anyway.
It was an exemple but since we're sticking on it, I like the thrill of getting something this resource-intensive running on older hardware. Sure I can play it on the pc and god knows I have (I even have it on steam) but where's the challenge in that?
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$520 Canadian dollars for rent?
Oh hell, time to move north.
Minimum wage in Canada, with health care, doesn't sound so bad.
BTW - The iBook will run MorphOS.
Perhaps, but just like how I can get a snes emulator and all the roms I could possibly want online, I'd still rather have the real thing.
I've tried winuae, I've tried aros, they're fun but I feel something's missing just like I tried zsnes, I tried bsnes and snes9x but it just doesn't compare to having the actual console and cartridges and holding that venerable gamepad in your hands while playing, say, mortal kombat 2 on an old television via RF.
Had I been satisfied with either aros or winuae, I wouldn't be looking for an amiga 1200. I wouldn't be willing to put forth what is gonna be a relative ton of money in the long run for such an old computer.
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Hi Sammy, I'm clearing out my computer room at home and have a spare A1200 I'd be willing to sell you. It's a largely stock system with a 500 meg HD and 3.1 ROMs. I think the floppy drive is dead, but I probably have a spare. If not, consider it "Gotek ready" ;)
I'm in Winnipeg, PM me if you're interested.
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Perhaps, but just like how I can get a snes emulator and all the roms I could possibly want online, I'd still rather have the real thing.
I've tried winuae, I've tried aros, they're fun but I feel something's missing just like I tried zsnes, I tried bsnes and snes9x but it just doesn't compare to having the actual console and cartridges and holding that venerable gamepad in your hands while playing, say, mortal kombat 2 on an old television via RF.
Had I been satisfied with either aros or winuae, I wouldn't be looking for an amiga 1200. I wouldn't be willing to put forth what is gonna be a relative ton of money in the long run for such an old computer.
NES or SNES? We are on different pages there. I definitely prefer that in emulation. No cartridge issues. And NES Galaga is actually a fairly good version.
For Amiga legacy, I prefer hardware myself.
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Why not choose an A500 or A600? They are a lot cheaper. Wait for the Vampire A1200 to be ready, so you can buy both at the same time.
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Why not choose an A500 or A600? They are a lot cheaper. Wait for the Vampire A1200 to be ready, so you can buy both at the same time.
To heck with that. Find out how much dovegrace wants. When it comes to buying Amiga hardware, I've always gotten my best deals by talking directly with the owner.
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Welcome to amiga.org.
For a decent frame-rate in Quake you'll need an 80 MHz 68060, either Apollo or Blizzard. Are you intent on towering your A1200? If so, I believe higher frame rates are possible via a PCI graphics card with the Mediator. Your A1200 will obviously need towering if you go this route.
Alternatively, you could by a Blizzard PPC card and a Blizzard Vision graphics card (all in standard wedge case). Therefore you could run PPC versions of Quake (faster). You could also run the 68K version being as though those PPC cards have either a 68040 or 68060 CPU as well as the PPC CPU onboard too. The Blizzard Vision has to be plugged into a Blizzard PPC board though, and they're both terribly expensive.
Now, if you're serious about display quality, I'd go for a real CRT monitor with an Indivision Mk. I. The Mk. II Indivision supposedly has problems with smooth scrolling/tearing in games, but I can't comment on that, maybe someone else can share their experience. Mind you, some people have got the Mk. II's working just as well so I hear via certain config. settings in the Indivision config tool...again, can't comment. All I know is that a good quality CRT cannot be beaten when it comes to gaming. Also, I find a flat screen takes away some of that Amiga (or retro) feeling. It's not easy to explain, and I suppose it's down to personal preferences in the end.
As for programs, most programs will let you specify the screenmode that it will open, therefore you can run them in any resolution you like. Only old programs will be locked to 640 x 200 NTSC or PAL for example (well, by old I mean 1980's LOL) but 9/10 times you can promote these to your specified mode, at least that's my experience on my A1200.
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Why not choose an A500 or A600? They are a lot cheaper. Wait for the Vampire A1200 to be ready, so you can buy both at the same time.
Yes, a cute little A600 with a Vampire up its ars* will make a nice Amiga FPS capable box, and with RTG graphics to boot will be great with Workbench programs too. Maybe the OP wants to run a Motorola 68K though. Quake needs an FPU I think, not sure whether the FPU is complete yet on the Vampire. Vampire A1200 edition doesn't sound like it's coming out within the next couple of years, could mean a bit of a wait. It would save a fortune though true!
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(I'm not sure if this is the right place to post it so if it's not then sorry!)
Hi there, my name's Sammy and I'm one of those dreaded french Canadians (although as you can note, my English is nothing to sneeze at)
I've been wanting to get an Amiga 1200 for so many years, and now that I finally have a job (video game tester, I get minimum wage but that's still three times better than welfare), I can afford to get one.
The thing though, is how much should I be expected to pay for an amiga 1200?
Basically, This is my current roadmap for now:
- Get an amiga 1200;
- yay.
I figure I should get one of those usb floppy disk emulators things I see on ebay too so I don't have to bonk my head against a wall. I know that it's the 500 model people get for all the games you can play on it but for some reason I don't really know how to explain I'm more attracted to the 1200, especially for the expansion boards you can throw into it.
Ultimately, this is gonna sound dumb but I'd like to be able to connect to the internet, and play quake on the one I'd get so...
What other things should I look for? and how much would I be realistically expected to pay for them?
I'm kinda giving up on ebay for this because everybody sells even crap stuff (think the worst of apple's 90s computers) at a premium, and since I'm Canadian, and from Quebec of all places, I doubt I'd be able to find one of these in a yard sale so where else could I look?
Web browsing isn't really realistic these days even on a 68060 setup but FTP, IRC and file sharing with a PC should be fine. Amigakit sell both wired and wireless PCMCIA cards along with their Easynet software package.
Some extra RAM will be handy and will also allow you to use WHDload to play games direct from hard disks which is more convenient that Gotek etc.
http://whdload.de/
The cheapest option for adding RAM was the ACA 1221 for about $177 CAD. Unfortunately they are not currently available but since you plan to upgrade in stages it not too much of an issue and maybe Vampire 1200 will arrive by the time you wish to upgrade.
There's a number of dedicated Amiga online stores across Europe but a new store opened to serve the USA and Canada called Amiga On The Lake. They are mostly geared towards OS4 and X5000 at the moment but are adding more products to their range so it's worth dropping them a mail and asking you might like to see them selling.
http://amigaonthelake.com/
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The best 'bang for the buck' for an A1200 would be one of the ACA cards... for example the ACA1233(n) @ 40 MHz with 128MB RAM. Then get yourself a compatible PCMCIA wireless card with WPA2 capability. Both are readily available, the former new from Amigakit.com, the latter from AmiBay (and perhaps Amigakit too).
You can ran Doom and similar games at a decent speed with that card, but forget Quake or Duke Nukem. A 68040 card would be the next step up and the next most affordable (Apollo/Blizzard 1240). Bear in mind though, these would be 2nd hand just like the 68060 cards or PPC cards.
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To heck with that. Find out how much dovegrace wants. When it comes to buying Amiga hardware, I've always gotten my best deals by talking directly with the owner.
I did :3 and if his machine still works (he told me in pm he'd test it first), I'll definitely buy it <3
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He'll even send pictures once he's done cleaning it :)
Full disclosure, though: the A1200 I'm offering has not been recapped. While the system runs like a top and looks pristine on the inside, it's also over 20 years old and it's only a matter of time until the capacitors go.
I haven't used his services (yet), but I hear Acill does great work in this area. You may want to take that into consideration.
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He'll even send pictures once he's done cleaning it :)
Full disclosure, though: the A1200 I'm offering has not been recapped. While the system runs like a top and looks pristine on the inside, it's also over 20 years old and it's only a matter of time until the capacitors go.
I haven't used his services (yet), but I hear Acill does great work in this area. You may want to take that into consideration.
I'll still get to try it out before getting it recapped :3
How much does it cost to get an amiga 1200 recapped? o:
And is it a widespread problem amongst amiga computers?
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I got my A4000 recapped at Amiwest by Acill and he did a great job. His prices are very reasonable too.
The recapping is a problem that affects a lot of older computers. The caps leak and can do irreparable damage to the motherboard. I would say it's a priority once you get the machine. That way you can enjoy it for many years to come without that nagging worry in the back of your mind.
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IMHO if you want to play Quake, just get a modern-ish PC, it's going to be a lot cheaper and provide a much better experience. If you want the really authentic retro PC gaming setup look for something like a Pentium-200 with a Voodoo2 card and a 19" CRT, that was my dream system back in the day. The charm of the Amiga is all the awesome classic games, most written for the A500 but they'll run on the other models too. Personally I'm a huge fan of CRT monitors, the classic stuff just looks wrong on a modern LCD but CRTs are getting hard to find.
Something you might consider if you're on a budget is something like the MIST FPGA based retro computer or other similar platforms that support the Minimig core. It's pretty reasonably priced compared to a real Amiga, under $250 I think and it's all brand new hardware so there's no messing around with vintage stuff in unknown condition. I personally like tinkering with old hardware but it's not for everyone and it tends to not be cheap.
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I'll still get to try it out before getting it recapped :3
How much does it cost to get an amiga 1200 recapped? o:
And is it a widespread problem amongst amiga computers?
It's a widespread problem amongst virtually all electronic equipment of a certain age, especially anything with surface mount electrolytic capacitors. Late 80s-early 90s Macs are full of them, I've re-capped dozens of those. SMT electrolytic capacitors and memory backup batteries are ticking time bombs that have destroyed countless vintage machines. They leak and eat the traces off the boards.
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Best advise ever!
Find and join and contribute to a Amiga User Group!
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Just curious but are PowerUP accelerator boards any good?
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Just curious but are PowerUP accelerator boards any good?
Of course they are, for what they do. They're also ridiculously $$$$$. Make sure you know what you're getting, and what you want to do with your Amiga, if you decide to start down that road. A bit of googling will help get you started:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerUP_(accelerator)
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My personal opinion is that the Amigas are best enjoyed in something resembling stock form. Most of the classic games were written with the stock A500 in mind and do not benefit from hopped up systems. Even the most drastically upgraded classic Amiga is still extremely slow compared to a low end modern PC.
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Welcome Sammy!
I am also French Canadian and Amiga everyday user :) You got great advices in this thread but please PM me and we could even try to meet! I could help you set up (I even have a spare Amiga 1200)...
Cheers!
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My personal opinion is that the Amigas are best enjoyed in something resembling stock form. Most of the classic games were written with the stock A500 in mind and do not benefit from hopped up systems. Even the most drastically upgraded classic Amiga is still extremely slow compared to a low end modern PC.
Yes but only because modern web pages keep 'moving the goal posts' defining how fast a computer should be. It's pothetic. Joe Public keeps on replacing their computers just so that advertisers can feed them more intricate CPU draining crap.
Sorry, that was a bit off topic. As for Amigas, I find all Amigas that have a hard drive and some Fast RAM to be enjoyable to use.
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Apologies for another off topic post but, Paul is CORRECT! And the #1 culprit destroying the internet today is JAVASCRIPT!!!! I get around JS by using an old version of Firefox on my Windows and OSX machines and disabling JS (with one click). At least I can read the news in a timely fashion - 1000X faster!
(https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder312/500x/65708312.jpg)
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Yes but only because modern web pages keep 'moving the goal posts' defining how fast a computer should be. It's pothetic. Joe Public keeps on replacing their computers just so that advertisers can feed them more intricate CPU draining crap.
Sorry, that was a bit off topic. As for Amigas, I find all Amigas that have a hard drive and some Fast RAM to be enjoyable to use.
I agree there, but for surfing the web the architecture and operating system are largely irrelevant. Wintel, MacOS, Linux PC, Linux on something like a Raspberry Pi, it's all essentially the same experience, Web surfing and email don't make use of any of the uniqueness offered by the Amiga.
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Of course they are, for what they do. They're also ridiculously $$$$$. Make sure you know what you're getting, and what you want to do with your Amiga, if you decide to start down that road. A bit of googling will help get you started:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerUP_(accelerator)
But what do they do exactly? What are their upsides and downsides?
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But what do they do exactly? What are their upsides and downsides?
They allow you to run software written for them. I would've thought this would be self-explanatory. ;) Amiga Amp, M.A.M.E., and many other applications as well as datatypes (WarpDT's) have versions specifically written to take advantage of them. But the software has to be specifically written to take advantage of the PPC processor, so before you ask, no, it's not going to speed up some hardware-banging game from 1987. :roflmao:
Here's a list to get you started: http://aminet.net/search?query=PPC
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They allow you to run software written for them. I would've thought this would be self-explanatory. ;) Amiga Amp, M.A.M.E., and many other applications as well as datatypes (WarpDT's) have versions specifically written to take advantage of them. But the software has to be specifically written to take advantage of the PPC processor, so before you ask, no, it's not going to speed up some hardware-banging game from 1987. :roflmao:
Here's a list to get you started: http://aminet.net/search?query=PPC
Do these require an OS other than workbench?
Also earlier in the thread, wifi was mentioned. I have an old Xircom RBE-100 Ethernet PC card. would that work with the amiga 1200?
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Do these require an OS other than workbench?
Have you been reading the links? 3.9 or 4.1 Classic should work fine with a properly equipped PPC Amiga. You'll need a lot of RAM if you want to run 4.1 Classic.
http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1222
Also earlier in the thread, wifi was mentioned. I have an old Xircom RBE-100 Ethernet PC card. would that work with the amiga 1200?
Does it have a Prism2 chipset? You need a card that's compatible with this:
http://aminet.net/package/driver/net/prism2v2
See the guide included in the archive for details of compatible cards.
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Have you been reading the links? 3.9 or 4.1 Classic should work fine with a properly equipped PPC Amiga. You'll need a lot of RAM if you want to run 4.1 Classic.
http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1222
Does it have a Prism2 chipset? You need a card that's compatible with this:
http://aminet.net/package/driver/net/prism2v2
I'm talking about an Ethernet pc card here, no wifi. As far as I know, Prism is a wifi card thing