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Title: Amiga 500 / 600 tank mouse
Post by: honasvocas on October 17, 2016, 06:44:55 PM
Hello,

could any good soul tell me the real dimensions of the amiga tank mouse please?

Im making a 3d model to be able to print it on 3d printer in the exact size and make it wireless for my raspberry pi 3 emulated Amibian keyboard with amiga, to have it compact and always with me on my travels...

Im looking for dimensions (without cable):

Mouse: (GREEN)
Length:
Width:
Heigth:

Buttons: (BLUE an RED)
Length:
width:
Distance within buttons:
Distance from frontface:

Layout: (PURPLE and YELLOW)
width upper part:
length upper part:
height from bottom to upper part:
heigth of lower split part:


I attach a picture of exact ways of measurements.

Thank you in advance!!!

if someone interested, Ill make the model public in sketchup for free download once made.


(http://smida.eu/x/AMIGA/tankmouse.png)
Title: Re: Amiga 500 / 600 tank mouse
Post by: magnetic on October 18, 2016, 03:06:12 AM
If i had calipers id send the data but i don't have a way to accurately measure it.
Title: Re: Amiga 500 / 600 tank mouse
Post by: honasvocas on October 18, 2016, 07:38:28 AM
Quote from: magnetic;815456
If i had calipers id send the data but i don't have a way to accurately measure it.


Well, I can go for a measurements with a standard ruler if youre willing to do so please...
Title: Re: Amiga 500 / 600 tank mouse
Post by: honasvocas on October 18, 2016, 08:25:48 PM
Really nobody?

:bump:
Title: Re: Amiga 500 / 600 tank mouse
Post by: Robbie on October 18, 2016, 09:40:05 PM
No worries I can measure this for you on Sunday if no one else can before :)
Title: Re: Amiga 500 / 600 tank mouse
Post by: amiman99 on October 18, 2016, 09:49:29 PM
how about this one:
https://sketchfab.com/models/f3cb26a91a47489ab12c0db3326db94b#download
Title: Re: Amiga 500 / 600 tank mouse
Post by: pyrre on October 19, 2016, 12:24:35 AM
Quote from: honasvocas;815433
Hello,

could any good soul tell me the real dimensions of the amiga tank mouse please?

Im making a 3d model to be able to print it on 3d printer in the exact size and make it wireless for my raspberry pi 3 emulated Amibian keyboard with amiga, to have it compact and always with me on my travels...
You Sir, are in dire need of one of these (http://www.3ders.org/articles/20151209-best-3d-scanners-2015.html)
Title: Re: Amiga 500 / 600 tank mouse
Post by: amiman99 on October 19, 2016, 04:09:00 AM
How about Imagine mouse object to get you started? It should be pretty close to what you need, but I'm not sure if the scale is correct.
Title: Re: Amiga 500 / 600 tank mouse
Post by: honasvocas on October 19, 2016, 11:15:32 AM
Quote from: pyrre;815494
You Sir, are in dire need of one of these (http://www.3ders.org/articles/20151209-best-3d-scanners-2015.html)


Yeah sure... 400$ is what kepts me back for the moment...

Im in this one (http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:740357), but thats a whole different story...
Title: Re: Amiga 500 / 600 tank mouse
Post by: honasvocas on October 19, 2016, 11:16:26 AM
Quote from: amiman99;815487
how about this one:
https://sketchfab.com/models/f3cb26a91a47489ab12c0db3326db94b#download


How come I didnt see it before??

anyway THANK YOU!
Title: Re: Amiga 500 / 600 tank mouse
Post by: honasvocas on October 19, 2016, 12:01:17 PM
Quote from: Robbie;815486
No worries I can measure this for you on Sunday if no one else can before :)


Thank you, if you could do the outside measurements, Id be greatfull

I was pointed to sketchfab site where I could find the model but just to be sure of the real sizes...
Title: Re: Amiga 500 / 600 tank mouse
Post by: klx300r on October 19, 2016, 03:04:52 PM
Quote from: honasvocas;815433
Hello,

could any good soul tell me the real dimensions of the amiga tank mouse please?

Im making a 3d model to be able to print it on 3d printer in the exact size and make it wireless for my raspberry pi 3 emulated Amibian keyboard with amiga, to have it compact and always with me on my travels...

Im looking for dimensions (without cable):

Mouse: (GREEN)
Length:
Width:
Heigth:

Buttons: (BLUE an RED)
Length:
width:
Distance within buttons:
Distance from frontface:

Layout: (PURPLE and YELLOW)
width upper part:
length upper part:
height from bottom to upper part:
heigth of lower split part:


I attach a picture of exact ways of measurements.

Thank you in advance!!!

if someone interested, Ill make the model public in sketchup for free download once made.


(http://smida.eu/x/AMIGA/tankmouse.png)

with a ruler only so approx:

yellow vertical: 60mm
yellow hor: 43mm
blue vert: 24mm
blue hor: 14mm
green vert: 108mm
green hor: 65mm
green height (midspan): 28mm
red vert: 10mm
red hor: 10mm
purple-larger: 31mm
purple-smaller: 26.5mm
Title: Re: Amiga 500 / 600 tank mouse
Post by: Dandy on October 25, 2016, 11:29:10 AM
Quote from: honasvocas;815433


...
Im making a 3d model to be able to print it on 3d printer in the exact size ...
...
Im in this one (http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:740357), but thats a whole different Story
...



Wow!
May I ask what CAD program you are using for this task and on which system?
(As I'm a so called 'CAD Analyst' ...)

Back in 1989-1992, during my CAD training (on Sun-Workstations w. Unix; 'Medusa' and 'Cadds4x'), I used my A500 with DynaCAD to exercise at home.

I even had a 'CNC-Tool' to convert the data of DynaCAD's 3D models into executable CNC programs, that I could save to a floppy disk and run on the CNC machines at school.
That was fun!

:idea:
Back then I was dreaming of setting up a small, so called 'production cell', controlled by an Amiga (as an inexpensive alternative to an expensive Unix environment)...

Since the release of the specs for the A1X1k we know about this onboard Xena/Xorro stuff.

:idea:
With this, it could be a lot easier to realise such a 'production cell'.
The Xena/Xorro stuff in the NG-Amiga(s) could allow for a decent way of controlling all the involved CNC machines, robots (and possibly future 3D scanners as well).

In the face of the heritage of the Amigas graphical abilities, it would (from my point of view) be a logical move to use NG-Amigas with Xena/Xorro for e.g. 3D scanning and printing, controlling CNC machines and production robots, ...

Precondition for this to happen would of course be a modernised, native port of DynaCad to OS 4.x and a native toolchain for Xena/Xorro development.
:hammer:

If you think this is too off topic for this thread, you might possibly want to continue discussion about this topic in another thread or via PM...

EDIT:
I forgot to ask what the hell is a "tank mouse"?
I hope you didn't mean this mind-bendingly stupid idea of a 'Mouse' tank (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzer_VIII_Maus)...
Title: Re: Amiga 500 / 600 tank mouse
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on October 26, 2016, 02:56:31 PM
Quote from: Dandy;815660

EDIT:
I forgot to ask what the hell is a "tank mouse"?


Really? Thought everyone who's ever used an Amiga would know this colloquial term for the original boxy-style of Amiga mouse. :laughing:
Title: Re: Amiga 500 / 600 tank mouse
Post by: Dandy on October 31, 2016, 10:03:29 AM
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;815695


Really? Thought everyone who's ever used an Amiga would know this colloquial term for the original boxy-style of Amiga mouse. :laughing:



Nah - here in Germany/Cologne it was not common to refer to it as "Panzer Maus" (German Translation of "tank mouse"). We used to call it "original Commodore A500 Maus" here...

But due to our dark history many here know Hitler's mad idea of the "Maus"-Panzer ("mouse" tank - see link in my previous posting) or the even more mad idea of its successor "Ratte" ("rat"-tank) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landkreuzer_P._1000_Ratte).

I was just amased by your colloquial term "tank mouse", as I initially thought for a moment you meant the tank "Maus"...
:laughing:
Title: Re: Amiga 500 / 600 tank mouse
Post by: honasvocas on November 09, 2016, 03:04:57 PM
Quote from: klx300r;815513
with a ruler only so approx:

yellow vertical: 60mm
yellow hor: 43mm
blue vert: 24mm
blue hor: 14mm
green vert: 108mm
green hor: 65mm
green height (midspan): 28mm
red vert: 10mm
red hor: 10mm
purple-larger: 31mm
purple-smaller: 26.5mm


Thanks a lot!! Ive been few mm off the model. This will help me a lot this weekend! thanks again!
Title: Re: Amiga 500 / 600 tank mouse
Post by: honasvocas on November 09, 2016, 03:14:42 PM
regarding a Tank mouse term...

In my country it was commonly known as a tank mouse or a box mouse...

because of its totally "rounded" shape I suppose... :roflmao: