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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: klx300r on May 20, 2016, 10:19:03 PM

Title: A4000 keyboard repair
Post by: klx300r on May 20, 2016, 10:19:03 PM
so got home early this afternoon to enjoy the long weekend here and what do I do before picking the kids up from school? why trouble shoot my A4000 keyboard of course:)

so issue is my W and Enter keys weren't working so open up case and this is what I found AFTER a cleaning:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7134/27042010902_746e30fd98_n.jpg) (http://www.amiga.org/forums/[url=https://flic.kr/p/HcBnHh)A4000 keyboard (https://flic.kr/p/HcBnHh) by G S (https://www.flickr.com/photos/124412768@N04/), on Flickr](https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7134/27042010902_746e30fd98_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HcBnHh)A4000 keyboard (https://flic.kr/p/HcBnHh) by G S (https://www.flickr.com/photos/124412768@N04/)[/URL]

contact pads were badly rusted so question is what I can I put on them to make sure the rust doesn't come back?? grease, spray lube??
Title: Re: A4000 keyboard repair
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on May 20, 2016, 10:29:53 PM
I spray WD-40 on everything, but that's not necessarily a good idea.  :lol:

This, maybe?

http://www.amazon.com/CRC-5103-Quick-Electronic-Cleaner/dp/B000BXOGNI

http://www.amazon.com/CRC-05101-QD-Electronic-Cleaner/dp/B000CCMLD0
Title: Re: A4000 keyboard repair
Post by: orange on May 20, 2016, 10:36:07 PM
the black thing is graphite, you need something conductive. I've used liquid silver with not much success, its probably better to try liquid graphite. both are not cheap.
Title: Re: A4000 keyboard repair
Post by: paul1981 on May 20, 2016, 10:42:29 PM
WD and a clean cloth - get those pads clean and don't forget to clean the thingy bob which contacts the pads (also with WD).
Title: Re: A4000 keyboard repair
Post by: orange on May 20, 2016, 10:47:51 PM
I think wd, contact cleaner or similar would just remove more graphite, making it worse.
Title: Re: A4000 keyboard repair
Post by: paul1981 on May 21, 2016, 12:58:21 AM
Quote from: orange;808880
I think wd, contact cleaner or similar would just remove more graphite, making it worse.

WD doesn't hurt anything in my experience. Joypad buttons, remote control buttons, rubber, pots, switches...they all LOVE WD-40. Everything loves WD-40!
Title: Re: A4000 keyboard repair
Post by: Zylark on May 21, 2016, 01:44:03 AM
WD40 probably won't hurt any - and will leave a thin film of oil to protect from further corrosion. But to actually clean electronics and get something that has a bad contact working good again, like say potentiometers, buttons and similar electro-mechanical devices, you want a specialist contact-cleaner.

Now, WD40 - the company - do sell this, link here (http://wd40specialist.com/products/contact-cleaner/). I'm sure similar products from other brands (CRC for instance) will do just as well.
Title: Re: A4000 keyboard repair
Post by: klx300r on May 21, 2016, 01:55:20 AM
guys my experience with WD-40 is that it's greasy and attracts alot of dust/dirt over time
Title: Re: A4000 keyboard repair
Post by: paul1981 on May 21, 2016, 02:14:33 PM
Quote from: Zylark;808890
WD40 probably won't hurt any - and will leave a thin film of oil to protect from further corrosion. But to actually clean electronics and get something that has a bad contact working good again, like say potentiometers, buttons and similar electro-mechanical devices, you want a specialist contact-cleaner.

Now, WD40 - the company - do sell this, link here (http://wd40specialist.com/products/contact-cleaner/). I'm sure similar products from other brands (CRC for instance) will do just as well.


Contact cleaner and pots don't mix (haven't tried WD's version). It'll work crackle free for a short while, but the crackles then return worse than ever! WD-40 fixes the crackles and stops crackles returning. This is my experience, but I'd never dream of spraying anything else into a pot or switch.
Title: Re: A4000 keyboard repair
Post by: klx300r on May 21, 2016, 04:56:36 PM
ok damn this keyboard work taking alot longer than I thought so anyhow good news is that the non working keys are working again with a good cleaning and some WD-40 BUT problem is I have to press quite hard to make contact so next step is to tear down again and put some of that graphite paste orange was talking about.
Looks like the cleaning of the rust wore down quite a bit of the contact pads
Title: Re: A4000 keyboard repair
Post by: orange on May 21, 2016, 05:24:25 PM
have you checked the other end?
Title: Re: A4000 keyboard repair
Post by: paul1981 on May 21, 2016, 05:56:55 PM
Quote from: klx300r;808921
ok damn this keyboard work taking alot longer than I thought so anyhow good news is that the non working keys are working again with a good cleaning and some WD-40 BUT problem is I have to press quite hard to make contact so next step is to tear down again and put some of that graphite paste orange was talking about.
Looks like the cleaning of the rust wore down quite a bit of the contact pads


Cleaning them has revealed the wear on them no doubt.
Title: Re: A4000 keyboard repair
Post by: klx300r on May 21, 2016, 06:06:21 PM
Quote from: orange;808924
have you checked the other end?

ya they seem fine it's the pads on the main board that are the issue
Title: Re: A4000 keyboard repair
Post by: klx300r on May 21, 2016, 06:07:05 PM
Quote from: paul1981;808926
Cleaning them has revealed the wear on them no doubt.

yup for sure