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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: Blizzard 128 MB on March 08, 2016, 10:20:12 PM

Title: Amiga 500+ 68010 2+4 MB RAM + WHDLoad Agony level 1 load 2,5 minutes normal?
Post by: Blizzard 128 MB on March 08, 2016, 10:20:12 PM
I have Amiga 500+, 68010 7 MHz, 2 MB chipRAM + 4 MB fastRAM, IDE controller with 800 KB/s load speed. WHDLoad 16 + Agony game level 1 load 2,5 minutes. This normal? 10-20 sec possible (real A1200)?
http://www.whdload.de/games/Agony.html
"Relocated decunch routine in fastmem for light speed loading."
This is not fast loading. The other games loading fast.
Title: Re: Amiga 500+ 68010 2+4 MB RAM + WHDLoad Agony level 1 load 2,5 minutes normal?
Post by: paul1981 on March 09, 2016, 01:15:51 AM
How much free RAM do you have before you load the game? It sounds as though there's not enough RAM to load the whole game into memory at once.

Why are you using version 16.x WHDLoad? Does Agony not work with the new version 18 of WHDLoad?
Title: Re: Amiga 500+ 68010 2+4 MB RAM + WHDLoad Agony level 1 load 2,5 minutes normal?
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on March 09, 2016, 01:25:25 AM
Update to the latest version (http://whdload.de/whdload/WHDLoad_usr_small.lha) and add the preload command (http://whdload.de/docs/en/opt.html#Preload).  Alternatively, you may have a problem with the particular slave file you're using, you might want to try a different one.
Title: Re: Amiga 500+ 68010 2+4 MB RAM + WHDLoad Agony level 1 load 2,5 minutes normal?
Post by: Blizzard 128 MB on March 09, 2016, 10:49:52 AM
The chipRAM 1,7 MB and fastRAM 3,7 MB before I start Whd programs. This not too little.
Whd 18.2 = slow load Agony, 1-1,5 minutes.
I test 20 games with Whd 18.2 = lot problems with my config, the programs 90% not work. Source: http://ftp://ftp:amiga@grandis.nu/Commodore_Amiga/WHDLoad_Packs/Games_WHDLoad/Games_WHDLoad.2.0.part01.rar

Agony work.
Whd 16.4 = the programs 90% work, Agony work..
The Agony tooltypes (I not modification): Preload command, and lot garbage text, and preloadsize=2628503. Stack 10240. Hdtoolbox maxtransfer OK.
What is the problem?

Where are the different complete Agony Whdload version files? No slave file only. This
which version? http://www.whdload.de/games/Agony.html
Tooltypes settings to A500 6 MB?
Title: Re: Amiga 500+ 68010 2+4 MB RAM + WHDLoad Agony level 1 load 2,5 minutes normal?
Post by: paul1981 on March 09, 2016, 11:22:10 AM
The garbled text is the NewIcon. If you don't use NewIcons there are tools on aminet like killnewicon that will sweep your drive and delete those garbled tooltypes (which can amount to significant space savings if hard drive storage is tight).

This 4MB fast RAM you have - is it part of your IDE controller? It may be that the memory is not contiguous, but even with preload off, it shouldn't take as long to load as you're saying (edit: yes, actually could take 2 mins).
Title: Re: Amiga 500+ 68010 2+4 MB RAM + WHDLoad Agony level 1 load 2,5 minutes normal?
Post by: Blizzard 128 MB on March 09, 2016, 11:39:45 AM
The IDE controller connect to the side expansion port, no RAM. The 4 MB fastRAM connect to the CPU socket. http://www.bigbookofamigahardware.com/bboah/product.aspx?id=1950
I use once the Agony with 2 MB chipRAM only. The loading slow, screen off, too little RAM to the preload.
The all other program preload fast with fastRAM.

Loading 2 minutes, 1:9-3:9. Let's Play the Amiga: Agony https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ4WR4heYqM
This normal? The config unknown.
Title: Re: Amiga 500+ 68010 2+4 MB RAM + WHDLoad Agony level 1 load 2,5 minutes normal?
Post by: paul1981 on March 09, 2016, 05:20:01 PM
Quote from: Blizzard 128 MB;805644
The IDE controller connect to the side expansion port, no RAM. The 4 MB fastRAM connect to the CPU socket. http://www.bigbookofamigahardware.com/bboah/product.aspx?id=1950
I use once the Agony with 2 MB chipRAM only. The loading slow, screen off, too little RAM to the preload.
The all other program preload fast with fastRAM.

Loading 2 minutes, 1:9-3:9. Let's Play the Amiga: Agony https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ4WR4heYqM
This normal? The config unknown.

I don't think the gentleman in that video knows much about Amiga's. In the video you can hear when the floppy drive is being accessed, so the game is sat there playing music when he could have pressed fire to go into the game. Personally I've not played it from floppy, but on my A600 68000 with 2MB fast RAM it loads as fast as any other game (few seconds iirc). There was graphics corruption on the owl though until I upgraded to ACA620. This may have been fixed by now for all I know.
Title: Re: Amiga 500+ 68010 2+4 MB RAM + WHDLoad Agony level 1 load 2,5 minutes normal?
Post by: DutchinUSA on March 09, 2016, 06:14:54 PM
Hey .. did you buy the board from this guy here? http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=70421

I think it's a clock issue .. it doesn't know what time it is so it is getting confused and keeps going back in time .. that's why it takes so long to load :laughing:

I'm sorry .. I just couldn't help myself after everything else that got posted about the 500+ board before :)
Title: Re: Amiga 500+ 68010 2+4 MB RAM + WHDLoad Agony level 1 load 2,5 minutes normal?
Post by: Blizzard 128 MB on March 09, 2016, 07:42:22 PM
Quote from: paul1981;805660
I don't think the gentleman in that video knows much about Amiga's. In the video you can hear when the floppy drive is being accessed, so the game is sat there playing music when he could have pressed fire to go into the game. Personally I've not played it from floppy, but on my A600 68000 with 2MB fast RAM it loads as fast as any other game (few seconds iirc). There was graphics corruption on the owl though until I upgraded to ACA620. This may have been fixed by now for all I know.

I press fire, load fast. Thanks. BUTTONWAIT tooltype.