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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: tonyvdb on January 06, 2016, 06:13:27 PM
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So what is the best icon library to use on an A2000 with OS3.1 with only 1mb chip and 2mb fast?
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The best one is without a doubt PeterK´s icon.library 46.4.417 (the 68000 version).
Use it with RemLib (included in the older Aminet release) to save on memory.
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=64079&highlight=iconlib
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You say "icon set" in your subject, but "icon library" in the post. Not sure which you mean? That's two different things.
In any case, best icon.library for any system is going to be Peter K.'s. You'll need to use LoadModule or LoadResident with 3.1, with 3.5 or 3.9 it's just "drag & drop":
http://aminet.net/package/util/libs/IconLib_46.4
And MagicWB for the icon set:
http://aminet.net/package/pix/mwb/StandardMagicWB16
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Thanks guys :)
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You say "icon set" in your subject, but "icon library" in the post. Not sure which you mean? That's two different things.
In any case, best icon.library for any system is going to be Peter K.'s. You'll need to use LoadModule or LoadResident with 3.1, with 3.5 or 3.9 it's just "drag & drop":
http://aminet.net/package/util/libs/IconLib_46.4
And MagicWB for the icon set:
http://aminet.net/package/pix/mwb/StandardMagicWB16
Thanks for the MagicWB16 link! I must have missed this back in October. Cheers!
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Thanks for the MagicWB16 link! I must have missed this back in October. Cheers!
It is a heck of a set! I couldn't believe how many icons were in there, some serious work by the folks who put it together (and of course the people who created all the icons, too).
I know some people think it looks dated, but to me that just means "classic"! :lol:
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It is a heck of a set! I couldn't believe how many icons were in there, some serious work by the folks who put it together (and of course the people who created all the icons, too).
I know some people think it looks dated, but to me that just means "classic"! :lol:
Old machines demand old authentic paint jobs..
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What is all this about MagicWB and icons? I haven't used MagicWB since WB1.3. I didn't really care for it though. How do you access all the icons without installing MWB, in particular with OS3.9?
Maybe I should just DL and see what the deal is? :)
DL'd and checked it out. It seems just as I remember. Just a bunch of pink rectangles representing progs, prefs, folders, etc.... They don't look at all cool like OS3.5/3.9 icons. I don't get what the hub-bub's about.
BTW, I just copied over Peter K's Icon library to my OS3.9 libs folder, rebooted and all the icons turned ugly and opaque-ish. What's up with that? Keep in mind I don't have an RTG card... just Indie ECS.
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Ok, so I've got Peter Ks icon set on my Amiga 2000 the instal notes are a bit cryptic so I copy the icon.library_6800 over to the Libs drawer what's next? Do I copy everything from the C drawer in his folder over to c on my Amiga?
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Ok, so I've got Peter Ks icon set on my Amiga 2000 the instal notes are a bit cryptic so I copy the icon.library_6800 over to the Libs drawer what's next? Do I copy everything from the C drawer in his folder over to c on my Amiga?
Not sure about the C drawer but, did you rename icon.library to icon.library.old and rename icon.library_6800 to icon.library? If you have an accelerator use the 020 version - but you probably already know all this. :)
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Odly the Libs drawer on the Amiga does not have a "icon.library" in there? It has lots of other xxx.library icons
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No no no. Icon.library is built into ROM. With 3.5 and 3.9 they "look on the disk" to see if there's a newer version first, as opposed to automatically using the version that's on the ROM.
3.0/3.1 isn't that smart, so you need to force it to use the updated version on your disk by putting either the LoadModule or LoadResident command before SetPatch in your Startup-Sequence:
LoadResident >NIL: LIBS:icon.library REBOOT
Or the more full example, given in the docs:
Version >NIL: icon.library 46
If WARN
If EXISTS LIBS:workbench.library
LoadResident >NIL: LIBS:workbench.library
EndIf
LoadResident >NIL: LIBS:icon.library REBOOT
EndIf
SetPatch QUIET
You'd need to use Ed to edit one or the other of the above statements into your S:Startup-Sequence.
Aside from LoadResident (or LoadModule) the rest of the stuff in the C drawer of the installer is optional. It's for if you want to do things like make outlines around your Workbench fonts, and other little tricks. :)
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Oh yeah - and rename icon.library_68000 to just icon.library. Like Gizmo said. ;)
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What is all this about MagicWB and icons? I haven't used MagicWB since WB1.3. I didn't really care for it though. How do you access all the icons without installing MWB, in particular with OS3.9?
Maybe I should just DL and see what the deal is? :)
DL'd and checked it out. It seems just as I remember. Just a bunch of pink rectangles representing progs, prefs, folders, etc.... They don't look at all cool like OS3.5/3.9 icons. I don't get what the hub-bub's about.
Read this:
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=54011 (http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=54011)
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You need FullPalette to lock the pens. Mfilos's guide is really good, too:
http://www.mfilos.com/2012/01/guide-making-workbench-prettier-using.html
Although personally I wouldn't use Birdie on a 16-color screen (like he did), I still run the Rebel Palette on my A500.
And MagicWB is nice on the system specs OP posted about (2MB fast / 1MB chip / 3.1 / 68000). Not going to be running 3.9 GlowIcons/Ken's Icons/etc. on that! ;)
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Interesting post...
So, I have an Amiga 2000 w/ an A2620 14.3MHz 68020 card (+FPU+MMU) with 2MB 32-bit FAST RAM, 4MB 16-bit FAST RAM, 1MB CHIP RAM.
I have an Indivision ECS out to a 19-inch Sony CRT. I use the flicker-fixed video out on that 19-inch when I'm doing anything on the Workbench. (I also have a 1084 on the unit, that I tend to look at for demos and games.)
Right now I am using an icon-set the name of which I can't perfectly recall. MWB? I am running in 640x400 with 8 colors. I spend most time using Workbench to launch games and demos via WHDLoad, and also to transfer them into the system with AmiTCP, ncftp, A-Web, etc (wired ethernet on the A2000) often tying to my OS X machine across the room where I download for the Amiga.
So what icon-set am I running?
http://torlus.com/floppy/forum/download/file.php?id=781
(I think this image is the 640x400 WB in PAL mode, as I switched with Degrader to run some demos thru CLI, so everything is slightly vertically squished.)
A Vine that shows a little of it:
https://vine.co/v/iq3ijdhzeJD
Which might be better? What is this about an icon.library? Is there a faster approach I can get than what comes w/ 3.1? Thanks.
bp
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@Mike and Paul....
Thanks for the reminder of pallet locking and the links! I have been really spoiled by AGA for quite a few years. I never messed around with all the screen pallets and MWB on my OS2.1 setup as I just used it as is 'cause my AGA was great! I would like to get a good looking ECS WB screen till I can catch up to OM!!!!!!!!!!! :lol:
@Blakespot....
I tried to use PeterK's icon.library last night with Indie ECS but it screwed up the pallet...
@Thread...
Is PeterK's icon.library primarily designed for AGA?
DangIt! gotta head off to the dentist!!!! Just when things are getting interesting! :furious:
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A Vine that shows a little of it:
https://vine.co/v/iq3ijdhzeJD
@blakespot - those are MagicWB icons.
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Create your own. That is what I have always done and I have like disks full of them. I always know when I am on my home territory. Best thing about the Amiga has always been the icon.
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Ah! You guys! You're killing me! Probably almost as much as Gizmo's dentist is killing him right now. ;)
The Peter K. icon library is one of the most revolutionary enhancements to come out for Amiga in like, the past decade. Seriously. ;) Obviously it's pointless if all you do is play floppy-based games, but it's great for folks who spend a lot of time in Workbench.
I'm paraphrasing the .readme (http://aminet.net/package/util/libs/IconLib_46.4), but just off-hand some of the features it adds:
- Completely rewritten icon-rendering routine for much faster performance
- Built-in support for NewIcons (no more having to run hacks or patches to display them)
- Built-in support for GlowIcons
- Built-in ghosting for def_icons (so they show at 1/2 the brightness of normal icons)
- Built-in support for neat little font tricks, like adding outlines and shadows to the text of icon fonts
- Built-in color reduction routines (able to dither and reduce truecolor and 256-color PNG icons so they look better on low-color screens)
TL;DR. It makes your Amiga faster. Of course some people don't care about that sort of thing. ;)
I think I've shared these before, but here's a few older (couple years ago) screenshots of my main A2000 running 16-color Workbench 3.9 with IndiECS/Peter K. library/VisualPrefs. Maybe not everyone's cup of tea, but I thought it looked nice at the time. I could probably do much better today. ;)
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This is a fantastic thread... there always seems to be a few programs that I can't find a good icon match for and the StandardMagicWB package is just what I've been looking for!
Not sure if what I do is unique but I like to first set a program icon to a choice MagicWB icon and then overlay a choice NewIcons icon over it. This way I can switch back and forth depending on my mood and only need to do a few window cleanups and I'm off and running.
The question I have is for OS 3.1, what programs are out there that let you easily (i.e., via drag and drop) replace a programs icon image with a another image without changing the icons tool types? As far as I can tell CopyNewIcon cannot be used for this as it is NewIcons image specific.
Thanks!
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@OM... See to me, your WB looks great! Just what I want! WB optimization is the area where I have always lacked for knowledge. I.E., spoiled by AGA. I always knew that PeterK's Icon Library made WB much speedier and always used it with AGA but, I really don't know how to take advantage of it. Is Visual Prefs the program to interface with PK's icon library? So, where do I start to copycat your desktop Mike? 1) Install PK's library. 2) Use FullPallet in some manner. 3) Use Rebel's Pallet in some manner? 4) Read Mfilos' blog. 5) Use GlowIcons/Ken's Icons/etc.? 6) Enjoy great looking WB?
Sorry for lack of knowledge here..... :hammer: Took me quite awhile to understand Amiga Icons - once I did, wow, it was an eye-opener! Just never took the time to put all this WB stuff together. This is where I wish A.O had a knowledge base or stickies.
BTW, Yea.... HATE the DENTIST! :(
(http://scheumanndental.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/hermey.jpg)
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The question I have is for OS 3.1, what programs are out there that let you easily (i.e., via drag and drop) replace a programs icon image with a another image without changing the icons tool types? As far as I can tell CopyNewIcon cannot be used for this as it is NewIcons image specific.
I've been a big proponent of 3.9 for years, since it integrates this functionality (being able to drag & drop a new icon image). For 3.1 try SwazInfo:
http://aminet.net/package/util/wb/SwazInfo18b
http://www.amiga.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-59449.html
It's also a part of BetterWB: http://lilliput.amiga-projects.net/BetterWB.htm
Enjoy! :)
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With 3.5 and 3.9 they "look on the disk" to see if there's a newer version first, as opposed to automatically using the version that's on the ROM.
The setpatch command from those versions does that. Works on 3.0 too.
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This is a fantastic thread... there always seems to be a few programs that I can't find a good icon match for and the StandardMagicWB package is just what I've been looking for!
Not sure if what I do is unique but I like to first set a program icon to a choice MagicWB icon and then overlay a choice NewIcons icon over it. This way I can switch back and forth depending on my mood and only need to do a few window cleanups and I'm off and running.
The question I have is for OS 3.1, what programs are out there that let you easily (i.e., via drag and drop) replace a programs icon image with a another image without changing the icons tool types? As far as I can tell CopyNewIcon cannot be used for this as it is NewIcons image specific.
Thanks!
I'm not by my Amiga at the moment, so I can't be sure that this is the program I use, but it may be:
http://m68k.aminet.net/package/util/wb/IconImage (http://m68k.aminet.net/package/util/wb/IconImage)
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@Is Visual Prefs the program to interface with PK's icon library? So, where do I start to copycat your desktop Mike? 1) Install PK's library. 2) Use FullPallet in some manner. 3) Use Rebel's Pallet in some manner? 4) Read Mfilos' blog. 5) Use GlowIcons/Ken's Icons/etc.? 6) Enjoy great looking WB?
Um, no, yes, yes, yes, yes, no. VisualPrefs lets you fancy-up your window gadgets - the stuff in the corners - and the sliders, and whatnot. See any of the screenshots of mine I've posted in the past few years. It's got tons of options, personally I kind of made mine to resemble 4.1. There's still a couple things I could do to make it closer, but I'm good with it for now.
And I wouldn't use Ken's Icons with anything less than a 16-bit (not 16-color) screen. But otherwise, go for it. :)
PS - now I want to see that movie again, lol. :)
Attached files:
1 - Plain, boring, ugly Workbench.jpg
2 - Workbench with MagicWB icons.jpg
3 - Mike's Workbench 1.7.2016.jpg :D
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Attached files:
1 - Plain, boring, ugly Workbench.jpg
2 - Workbench with MagicWB icons.jpg
3 - Mike's Workbench 1.7.2016.jpg :D
Quite nice.
What would you with a system like mine as far as making it gussied up a bit in the WB? I am running 3.1 in A2000 w/ 14MHz 68020, 6MB FAST, 1MB CHIP, Indivision ECS. I am currently using MagicWB icons.
I used to have an '060 and a Picasso II in this '060, but I sold them, thinking I'd just not be spending much time on the WB. But...your setup has me wanting to spend lots of time with the A2000. I should've kept that '060!
( Also, didn't you sell me an Indivision AGA a few years ago? I'm in Alexandria, VA. )
Thanks.
bp
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Mike, what settings are you using on VisualPrefs to get that 4.1 look? I'd be interested in trying that out without too much fuss :)
Also, for anyone... is it me or does the version information for icon.library for PeterK's respond differently once it's in the LIBS: folder and made resident? Like check it out in the install folder and you get
icon.library 46.4.409
(68020)
vs.
icon.library 46.4
(68020)
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Quite nice.
What would you with a system like mine as far as making it gussied up a bit in the WB? I am running 3.1 in A2000 w/ 14MHz 68020, 6MB FAST, 1MB CHIP, Indivision ECS. I am currently using MagicWB icons.
I used to have an '060 and a Picasso II in this '060, but I sold them, thinking I'd just not be spending much time on the WB. But...your setup has me wanting to spend lots of time with the A2000. I should've kept that '060!
( Also, didn't you sell me an Indivision AGA a few years ago? I'm in Alexandria, VA. )
Hiya buddy! No, it wasn't an Indivision AGA, but I did sell a DCE ScanMagic for an A1200 to someone on here... geeze, 13 years ago? Don't think it was you though, it was somebody else local though. They actually just popped back up on here a few weeks ago, danged if I can remember who it was though!
Or, heck, it might've been you. Did you buy a ScanMagic and a completely taken apart A1200 from someone local back 13 or so years ago? ;)
In any case, one of my favorite "hacks" for a low spec system back in the day was Urouhack:
http://aminet.net/package/util/wb/urouhack17
I remember you could just run this thing in the right place of your Startup-Sequence (it was tricky since it had to be run before some things, and after others), and it would give you these nice gradient window buttons.
It's mentioned here, as well: http://www.geocities.ws/dsmatthews_99/html/towb16.html
(in fact, that whole "This Old Workbench" site is pretty good)
I ditched Urouhack when it didn't work with 3.9 and moved on to things like VisualPrefs, Birdie, etc. But I remember it was good for a low to mid-spec system to sort of "gussy it up".
I'm also a big fan of the sort of "do everything in one" commodities, MultiCX and MCP. I know MultiCX is the older of the two and doesn't have as many features, but in my experience I found it to be a bit more stable.
MultiCX: http://aminet.net/package/util/cdity/MCX280
MultiCX prefs editor: http://aminet.net/package/util/cdity/mcxp337
MultiCX prefs editor option #2: http://aminet.net/package/util/cdity/MCXPrefs
I know MCP changed hands a few times and continued to be developed beyond the version that's on Aminet. Might poke around a little but it looks like there's versions here:
http://aminet.net/package/util/cdity/MCP130
http://mcp.a1k.org/
Also MagicMenus should work fine on a system of your spec. Just don't try to turn on transparency, or any of the advanced features. ;)
The latest version AFAIK is 2.35. Get the main archive here:
http://aminet.net/package/util/wb/MagicMenu_II
or here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/magicmenu/
Then the update here: http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=54702
There's also a lot of goodies consolidated into BetterWB, which you can get here: http://lilliput.amiga-projects.net/BetterWB.htm
I am *not* a fan of the ClassicWB packs, IMHO they change your Amiga too much and make it feel "not like an Amiga" anymore, but I know some people swear by 'em. Looked at a recent screenshot last night and it made me want to throw a monitor through a wall, lol, but they're out there if you want 'em. ( http://classicwb.abime.net/ ) Just make sure you check your system specs against the charts on the page. You'd probably want "68K", "LITE", or "FULL" versions, nothing more than that.
But, enough rambling. Go have fun! :D
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Mike, what settings are you using on VisualPrefs to get that 4.1 look? I'd be interested in trying that out without too much fuss :)
Also, for anyone... is it me or does the version information for icon.library for PeterK's respond differently once it's in the LIBS: folder and made resident? Like check it out in the install folder and you get
icon.library 46.4.409
(68020)
vs.
icon.library 46.4
(68020)
I typically use "VersionWB" now, instead of just "version" or "version xxx.library full".
With VisualPrefs, I started with a template, then I basically deleted every bit of it except for the Boing Ball logo. Then made a bunch of changes in the GUI settings. Then added Birdie (with mostly default settings). It was an iterative process over a period of time. Someone here from AmigaKit actually has a much better (as in, it looks more like 4.1) setup, I asked them once what they ran but never implemented it all, myself. It's somewhere here in a thread though, if you want to dig it up. ;)
Anyhow, some screenshots. Don't be all "copying me" though. Go make up your own stuff! :D
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3.0/3.1 isn't that smart, so you need to force it to use the updated version on your disk by putting either the LoadModule or LoadResident command before SetPatch in your Startup-Sequence:
LoadResident >NIL: LIBS:icon.library REBOOT
Or the more full example, given in the docs:
Version >NIL: icon.library 46
If WARN
If EXISTS LIBS:workbench.library
LoadResident >NIL: LIBS:workbench.library
EndIf
LoadResident >NIL: LIBS:icon.library REBOOT
EndIf
SetPatch QUIET
You'd need to use Ed to edit one or the other of the above statements into your S:Startup-Sequence.
Ok, so backing this up just a little bit, I put the LoadResident >NIL: LIBS:icon.library REBOOT before set patch and now It does not load workbench and I get "LoadResident: unknown command"
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Of course, because that command is not a part of OS 3.1. It's in that iconlib archive.
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Ok, so where do I find and place the LoadResident too?
I guess my bigger question is where should the iconLib_46.4 folder be placed as nowhere in the documentation does it say where in the system folder this stuff should be installed.
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Ok, so where do I find and place the LoadResident too?
I guess my bigger question is where should the iconLib_46.4 folder be placed as nowhere in the documentation does it say where in the system folder this stuff should be installed.
- LoadResident is a command. It goes in C:. (should probably also stick LoadModule in there, too). These are not unique to icon.library, lots of programs use these commands.
- Icon.library goes in Libs:
- The other stuff in the C directory of the archive is optional, it's simple command line utilities to do things like add outline, shadows, etc., to the icon text. They're described in the manual.
The program author included a lot of optional stuff: config files for FBlit, benchmark tools, palette prefs settings, source code, etc. Basically everything in the "bonus", "source", and "ThirdParty" drawers is optional, with the exception of "ThirdParty/Loadmodule" and "ThirdParty/LoadResident". ;)
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Ok, got that right now and it's boots into workbench however there is no change at all in the icons? Maybe I should have just done the simple line
"LoadResident >NIL: LIBS:icon.library REBOOT"
Load time is longer so it must be doing the reboot as requested. I did the full version that's shown in the startup sequence.
I'm sorry for all the questions....
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Ok, got that right now and it's boots into workbench however there is no change at all in the icons? Maybe I should have just done the simple line
"LoadResident >NIL: LIBS:icon.library REBOOT"
Load time is longer so it must be doing the reboot as requested. I did the full version that's shown in the startup sequence.
I'm sorry for all the questions....
To confirm if it's running, drop down to the command line and do a "version icon.library full", or try enabling one of the C: options, like "OutlineIconText".
Remember, this isn't what makes the icons "look different". But it greatly improves performance when using more advanced icon sets like GlowIcons or Ken's Icons, for example. ;) Are you still running stock 3.1 icons?
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;) Are you still running stock 3.1 icons?
I'm feeling dumb here, yes stock 3.1 icons. That's what I want to change. I hate the default disk icon it uses and my RAM disk also just looks like a disk not the chip I see on my a4000
It says "icon.library 46.4"
(68000)
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I'm feeling dumb here, yes stock 3.1 icons. That's what I want to change. I hate the default disk icon it uses and my RAM disk also just looks like a disk not the chip I see on my a4000
It says "icon.library 46.4"
(68000)
Sounds right. Well, what do you want to change the icons *to*? Plenty of options already listed in this thread, my recommendation for a low-spec system is still as follows:
3.1 + BetterWB: http://lilliput.amiga-projects.net/BetterWB.htm
The full set of MagicWB icons: http://aminet.net/package/pix/mwb/StandardMagicWB16
All the other things we keep talking about here (NewIcons, GlowIcons, Ken's Icons, etc.) would work, but they're going to be slow on a stock 68000, and require higher color modes than a low-spec system can "comfortably display". ;)
Anyhow, you could start with the above and then build on it, maybe by adding MagicMenus, or a multi-commodity like MultiCX or MCP. There's no real "standard" as far as customizing an Amiga goes, just look at other people's screenshots and ask what they're running, if you're curious. ;)
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No no no. Icon.library is built into ROM. With 3.5 and 3.9 they "look on the disk" to see if there's a newer version first, as opposed to automatically using the version that's on the ROM.
3.0/3.1 isn't that smart, so you need to force it to use the updated version on your disk by putting either the LoadModule or LoadResident command before SetPatch in your Startup-Sequence:
LoadResident >NIL: LIBS:icon.library REBOOT
I did this and the command fails, indicating (when I remove NIL) that icon.library object already exists. I have A2000 w/ 68020 (using 68020 icon.library, or trying) and 3.1 ROM and WB 3.1.
I renamed old icon.library and put the 020 icon.library in LIBS: as the orig name (icon.library).
Ideas? Tnx.
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LoadResident has to be the first line in your startup-sequence. Before SetPatch. Did you put it there?
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Setpatch is not the first line in my s-s. But I put this line just before setpatch.
So this needs to be the first line? It can't be really, as I have logic checking to see if Rom is 1.3 or 3.1 and then redirection to scripts to load appropriate Workbench.
bp
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Huh. Okay, that's probably going to cause problems, since the LoadResident command triggers a reboot. I guess it needs to be something like this:
- if 1.3, skip LoadResident
- if 3.1, run LoadResident, reboot, skip 1.3 stuff, run 3.1 stuff
Honestly not sure. You're going to have to figure out how to get the LoadResident reboot to 'play nice' with your 1.3/3.1 selector logic.
Or just dump 1.3, lol. ;)
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Funny story, when I was running 3.1 on my A500 it actually had to do two reboots to boot up. One to add the VXL*30 32-bit RAM, one to load all the stuff I had crammed into LoadResident and LoadModule commands, and then it could boot. Sucker took forever and was a careful balancing act of scripting, since I wanted all the stuff those commands were loading loaded into the 32-bit space instead of 16-bit space, etc. Upgrading it to 3.9 made that process a lot less painful.
Always figured one of these days I'll get around to learning how to burn my own custom 3.9 ROM's. ;)
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Huh. If I told you that I was putting load resident before setpatch but halfway through the startup sequence script, would you anticipate that I would get a object already present error like I'm getting? It is before set patch as I have it now.
I guess load resident after a reboot doesn't do it's thing again after checking to see if what it loaded is already loaded.
If I comment out the load resident line in the startup sequence and boot the system, I get no error. This is after having replaced the 3K icon.library file with the 38K or so modified icon.library file. Would you expect a smooth boot? Is there anyway it's actually loaded on it's own under 3.1?
Thanks for the help, by the way.
bp
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I think you'd have to do a check:
If icon.library = version "anything other than the version you've installed" then run the LoadResident command
Else skip running the command
Or "if version icon.library = version you've installed, skip running the load command"
Else "run the load command"
That's just offhand, obviously. I'm not near a computer right now. But it sounds like part of the problem is that it's being loaded twice. :(
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Update, got things working. is there a way to copy an icon that stays with the ram disk? after I reboot it does not stick.
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Update ram-handler with the one from OS3.9 and you can make a soft link in user startup to for example evnarc:sys/def_RAM.info from RAM:Disk.info, and you are done.
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Or you can copy a disk.info file from some other location into RAM:, prior to the LoadWB command. Also you can use the new icon library to automatically load an image (without the soft link), but that's probably just going to confuse things more. ;)
Kolla's answer is the most "technically correct" if you want to do it the way the OS designers intended. ;)
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Kolla's answer is the most "technically correct" if you want to do it the way the OS designers intended. ;)
If I was OS designer, I would let ram-handler take care of the icon for ram-disk ;)