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Title: Radeon 9000 256 MB PCI graphic card cheaper than Blizzard
Post by: fondpondforever on December 03, 2015, 04:59:17 PM
Hello there, how come a Radeon 9000 256 MB PCI graphic card for an AmigaOne X1000 is so much cheaper than Blizzard for classic Amigas. For example a Radeon 9000 256 MB PCI graphic card for new Amigas cost about £40 whereas Blizzard for classic Amiga's goes for £100's on eBay and Amibay. Thanks.
Title: Re: Radeon 9000 256 MB PCI graphic card cheaper than Blizzard
Post by: Niding on December 03, 2015, 05:06:25 PM
"Supply and demand"

http://www.investopedia.com/university/economics/economics3.asp
Title: Re: Radeon 9000 256 MB PCI graphic card cheaper than Blizzard
Post by: fondpondforever on December 03, 2015, 05:10:10 PM
More Radeon 9000's made than the Blizzard? Is that what you mean.
Title: Re: Radeon 9000 256 MB PCI graphic card cheaper than Blizzard
Post by: eliyahu on December 03, 2015, 05:43:28 PM
@fondpondforever

yes. substantially more radeon 9000 cards were manufactured. so the blizzard is much rarer, and therefore, worth more.

-- eliyahu
Title: Re: Radeon 9000 256 MB PCI graphic card cheaper than Blizzard
Post by: skolman on December 03, 2015, 06:08:52 PM
http://youtu.be/uF52Msuk-7M
Title: Re: Radeon 9000 256 MB PCI graphic card cheaper than Blizzard
Post by: fondpondforever on December 03, 2015, 06:19:53 PM
Oh right, I see. I read that the Radeon 9000 Cards were made for the AmigaOne X1000 Market but were compatible with PC's. Is that true or were they mainly aimed at the PC Market. Thanks.
Title: Re: Radeon 9000 256 MB PCI graphic card cheaper than Blizzard
Post by: eliyahu on December 03, 2015, 07:08:29 PM
@fondpondforever

those radeon 9000 PCI cards are fairly ancient, and no, they weren't aimed at the amiga market whatsoever. they came out nearly a decade before the X1K. :)

besides, X1K users can use radeon HD 7000-series cards, R7s, R9s, etc.

-- eliyahu
Title: Re: Radeon 9000 256 MB PCI graphic card cheaper than Blizzard
Post by: Fransexy_ on December 03, 2015, 08:46:59 PM
Quote from: fondpondforever;799808
I read that the Radeon 9000 Cards were made for the AmigaOne X1000 Market


Where the hell have you seen/heard that? I hope you have just been a misunderstanding on your part
Title: Re: Radeon 9000 256 MB PCI graphic card cheaper than Blizzard
Post by: Rob on December 03, 2015, 09:01:35 PM
Quote from: fondpondforever;799808
Oh right, I see. I read that the Radeon 9000 Cards were made for the AmigaOne X1000 Market but were compatible with PC's. Is that true or were they mainly aimed at the PC Market. Thanks.


The last video cards made for the Amiga were Village Tronic's Picasso IV and Phase 5's Blizzardvision PPC and Cybervision PPC.

Everything since has been a standard PCI card plugged into systems equipped with either a Mediator, G-REX or Prometheus PCI busboard.

On the NG side it has either been a standard AGP, PCI or PCIe card.
Title: Re: Radeon 9000 256 MB PCI graphic card cheaper than Blizzard
Post by: fondpondforever on December 04, 2015, 01:58:29 AM
So back to the original question, I can clearly see why Radeon PCI Graphic Cards are much cheaper than Blizzard's.
Title: Re: Radeon 9000 256 MB PCI graphic card cheaper than Blizzard
Post by: agami on December 04, 2015, 05:27:37 AM
But what I can't clearly see is how or why you needed to ask this?
You obviously have an internet connected computing device with a web browser; A simple Google search would have given you the whole history of the Radeon 9000 series of graphics processors and cards.
Title: Re: Radeon 9000 256 MB PCI graphic card cheaper than Blizzard
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on December 04, 2015, 05:51:15 AM
Quote from: agami;799827
But what I can't clearly see is how or why you needed to ask this?
You obviously have an internet connected computing device with a web browser; A simple Google search would have given you the whole history of the Radeon 9000 series of graphics processors and cards.


Sometimes I wonder if his posts are just trolling. Then I remember that sensitivity training I must've learned sometime around kindergarten, lol. :lol:
Title: Re: Radeon 9000 256 MB PCI graphic card cheaper than Blizzard
Post by: Blizz1220 on December 04, 2015, 05:59:17 AM
PCI Radeon cards from that generation were made for Macs , so I guess
that was what poster meant.They could do 66 Mhz PCI on earlier Macs and
went to AGP later.Those cards have different BIOS.
Title: Re: Radeon 9000 256 MB PCI graphic card cheaper than Blizzard
Post by: fondpondforever on December 04, 2015, 02:11:47 PM
If I had done a bit more research into the Radeon Graphics Cards then I would have known that they were made for Macs and PC's. What I thought was there are specialist graphic cards made for the AmigaOne X1000 and other Amiga Computers in the same generation. So what I've learnt is that I guess there aren't any specialist Amiga Graphic Cards made for X1000 otherwise they would cost alot more than the £40 Radeon 9000 one as there would be a smaller production line.
Title: Re: Radeon 9000 256 MB PCI graphic card cheaper than Blizzard
Post by: jj on December 04, 2015, 02:19:57 PM
Like the way asking the same bonkers questions over on EAB as well
Title: Re: Radeon 9000 256 MB PCI graphic card cheaper than Blizzard
Post by: wawrzon on December 04, 2015, 03:07:51 PM
Quote from: JJ;799844
Like the way asking the same bonkers questions over on EAB as well


yes, i asked myself the same question, but from an expert perspective this doesnt look like proper trolling. maybe he is simply genuinely clueless. wouldnt be anything particularly unbelievable in these parts.
Title: Re: Radeon 9000 256 MB PCI graphic card cheaper than Blizzard
Post by: eliyahu on December 04, 2015, 04:47:32 PM
@thread

personal insults are against our posting guidelines. please knock it off. thanks.

-- eliyahu
Title: Re: Radeon 9000 256 MB PCI graphic card cheaper than Blizzard
Post by: OlafS3 on December 05, 2015, 03:05:14 PM
Quote from: eliyahu;799848
@thread

personal insults are against our posting guidelines. please knock it off. thanks.

-- eliyahu

I do not want to insult anyone but his question made my day :)
Title: Re: Radeon 9000 256 MB PCI graphic card cheaper than Blizzard
Post by: slaapliedje on December 05, 2015, 09:13:29 PM
Ha, I guess it was worse when I read it, because I think Blizzard, and I think the accelerator boards specifically, then I was thinking "what do you mean only £100?  Then I guess I also reread it just now and missed the 's after that.  I thought £100 for a Blizzard accelerator is an insanely good price!

I wish someone would come up with a new PPC accelerator board for classics that was only £100-£200, I'm sure many of us would snatch it up in a heart beat.
Title: Re: Radeon 9000 256 MB PCI graphic card cheaper than Blizzard
Post by: fondpondforever on December 06, 2015, 02:04:29 AM
@eliyahu

Could you please delete this thread because I asked some naive questions before thinking through what I posted. Thanks
Title: Re: Radeon 9000 256 MB PCI graphic card cheaper than Blizzard
Post by: Astral on December 06, 2015, 03:44:50 AM
@OP

I don't think anything has to be deleted. You had a genuine question. And people have given you answers. So now you have an idea of what people think.

I can think of one other member here who posts very basic opinions and questions that are actually legitimate. And if you didn't know the member you'd swear that he was yanking the chain. But he is not. It's who he is. It's how he expresses himself.

The moderator here is clear - back off with the insults. And I agree.

@thread

And now to answer the original question. I'm with Member Niding on this one. It ALL comes back to supply and demand. Grasp those concepts (as simple as it may seem on the surface) and you understand why anything is priced the way it is.