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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: curtis on November 12, 2015, 09:34:02 PM

Title: 500+ no sound
Post by: curtis on November 12, 2015, 09:34:02 PM
Another day, another snakebite!

Working on a 500+ rig and set up a set of speakers and fired it up.

No sound.

Hmmm, maybe a bad Paula?  Swap with a known good, no joy.  Try original chip in another 500 mobo and it works.

Suggestions?
Title: Re: 5600+ no sound
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on November 12, 2015, 09:56:12 PM
Any other issues or just no sound?  Probably obvious but you've confirmed the speakers and wiring are working, yes?
Title: Re: 500+ no sound
Post by: Merc on November 12, 2015, 10:09:59 PM
I seem to remember having audio problems with a bad -12v connection from the power supply on an a500, when you tested with the other machine was it using the same PSU?
Title: Re: 5600+ no sound
Post by: curtis on November 13, 2015, 01:03:54 AM
Used the same speakers on both units.  

Works on one, but not the other.

No other issues.  Everything else is good.

Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;799135
Any other issues or just no sound?  Probably obvious but you've confirmed the speakers and wiring are working, yes?
Title: Re: 500+ no sound
Post by: curtis on November 13, 2015, 01:04:39 AM
Different power supplies.

Quote from: Merc;799136
I seem to remember having audio problems with a bad -12v connection from the power supply on an a500, when you tested with the other machine was it using the same PSU?
Title: Re: 5600+ no sound
Post by: paul1981 on November 13, 2015, 01:09:49 AM
Quote from: curtis;799141
Used the same speakers on both units.  

Works on one, but not the other.

No other issues.  Everything else is good.


If found to not be the psu, then I suppose it must be either a power failure to the op-amps, or faulty op-amps which amplify the signal from Paula. But seems unlikely they'd both die together, so like the other chap said, check the 12v line.
Title: Re: 5600+ no sound
Post by: Blizz1220 on November 13, 2015, 07:34:10 AM
Bad -12V gives "broken" distorted and crackling sound but it can be
heard.If there is no sound check for damage on traces , I (think) that
if Paula was gone it wouldn't boot but never seen that case.
Title: Re: 5600+ no sound
Post by: curtis on November 14, 2015, 02:56:08 PM
Well, after a good nights sleep and an chance to ponder it a bit, my eyes were opened!

I had forgotten when I picked this up, the previous owner told me there had been some battery damage before he removed the old leaky battery.

So, looking at that area which is where the audio filter circuitry sits, I noticed remains of battery damage that has been cleaned up, but not repaired!

Hmmm.

Yeah, I kinda feel stoopid!

I'm including a picture...
Title: Re: 5600+ no sound
Post by: paul1981 on November 14, 2015, 03:13:38 PM
Quote from: curtis;799183
Well, after a good nights sleep and an chance to ponder it a bit, my eyes were opened!

I had forgotten when I picked this up, the previous owner told me there had been some battery damage before he removed the old leaky battery.

So, looking at that area which is where the audio filter circuitry sits, I noticed remains of battery damage that has been cleaned up, but not repaired!

Hmmm.

Yeah, I kinda feel stoopid!

I'm including a picture...


Erm... Yeah!! Always perform a visual inspection before anything else. :)
Title: Re: 5600+ no sound
Post by: curtis on November 14, 2015, 04:25:39 PM
Well, I did have 3 other senses working at the time.

Smell, no burning odor!
Sight, no smoke!
Hearing, no sound!
Why would I need to look at the actual motherboard?

:laughing:

Quote from: paul1981;799184
Erm... Yeah!! Always perform a visual inspection before anything else. :)
Title: Re: 5600+ no sound
Post by: mechy on November 14, 2015, 04:28:40 PM
Curtis, is that the same board i installed the 68000 socket on? i remember kind of looking at it and thinking the battery damage seemed a bit rought. As for finding faults, i can't count the hours wasted on repairs i looked in the wrong place for the problem.  
hope you get it fixed.

Mech
Title: Re: 5600+ no sound
Post by: curtis on November 14, 2015, 09:04:54 PM
Yeah mechy, it's the same board.

Actually, I've got a 6a I'll probably use instead and will see if this "silent" partner can find a new home...
Title: Re: 5600+ no sound
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on November 14, 2015, 10:07:38 PM
Maybe you could bypass the audio filter circuitry?
Title: Re: 5600+ no sound
Post by: curtis on November 14, 2015, 11:53:23 PM
That will be up to the new owner.

Yeah, I've decided to offer it to someone new.

Check out the marketplace forum.

Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;799194
Maybe you could bypass the audio filter circuitry?