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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: dschallock on October 20, 2015, 02:45:51 PM
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With a huge thank you to Daniel and the SACC club I was able to score a great copy of Adpro 2.5 with the manual. As far as I know the last version released was 2.5.1.1 (maybe?)... I was wondering if there is a patch out there for 2.5 that will bring it up to the last version?
Thanks!
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With a huge thank you to Daniel and the SACC club I was able to score a great copy of Adpro 2.5 with the manual. As far as I know the last version released was 2.5.1.1 (maybe?)... I was wondering if there is a patch out there for 2.5 that will bring it up to the last version?
Thanks!
First, the program performs differently depending on whether you use OS3.x or OS4.x.
Second, there might be files in your version that have been replaced since release. Some exist on aminet, some not.
I'd need to know more. It might be best for you to just report what features are working and what features are not, along with complete version output from problematic files.
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First, the program performs differently depending on whether you use OS3.x or OS4.x.
Second, there might be files in your version that have been replaced since release. Some exist on aminet, some not.
I'd need to know more. It might be best for you to just report what features are working and what features are not, along with complete version output from problematic files.
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Hi Numbers6, Thanks for replying.
There is nothing wrong with my version of Adpro. I just bought a boxed version of 2.5
I installed and it works fine. No problems.
I have researched, although I'm not positive, that 2.5.1 (a small update to what I have) is in fact the last version of the program released. I was looking for an update patch to bring my 2.5 to 2.5.1 I may have heard there was even a 2.5.1.1 but, I honestly don't know the last release that came out.
So, I am running OS 3.9 on a real Amiga, with a real copy of 2.5 ADPRO (with a real serial) and it works great. Just looking for the last update. :)
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Hi Numbers6, Thanks for replying.
There is nothing wrong with my version of Adpro. I just bought a boxed version of 2.5
I installed and it works fine. No problems.
I have researched, although I'm not positive, that 2.5.1 (a small update to what I have) is in fact the last version of the program released. I was looking for an update patch to bring my 2.5 to 2.5.1 I may have heard there was even a 2.5.1.1 but, I honestly don't know the last release that came out.
So, I am running OS 3.9 on a real Amiga, with a real copy of 2.5 ADPRO (with a real serial) and it works great. Just looking for the last update. :)
I understand what you are looking for. I'm just saying that until you load every conceivable variant of a .jpg file for example, you might not know just how much really "works". Same can be said of .iff vs multipic, 040 versions vs 030 versions of operators, and much more.
Example: note references to what exists under OS3.x (http://www.amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=21770&forum=32)
another example (http://www.amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=18808&forum=32)
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I understand what you are looking for. I'm just saying that until you load every conceivable variant of a .jpg file for example, you might now know just how much really "works". Same can be said of .iff vs multipic, 040 versions vs 030 versions of operators, and much more.
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Ahh, ok, I understand now. In fact I did try to load a very newly created jpg from my pc into the freshly installed adpro and it did seem to have a problem with it.
Is there a centralized place where the latest versions of loaders/savers/operators for adpro are organized? Does the 2.5.1 bring everything up to latest and greatest or does that version still require bits and pieces to be collected from the amiverse to be latest and best working version?
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Haha. You're like me. I just want the latest version of stuff, I don't care if it actually addresses any of the issues I might be having. ;)
Old saying: "For every new version of a program that's released, 10 bugs are fixed, but 10 new ones are created." ;)
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Ahh, ok, I understand now. In fact I did try to load a very newly created jpg from my pc into the freshly installed adpro and it did seem to have a problem with it.
Is there a centralized place where the latest versions of loaders/savers/operators for adpro are organized? Does the 2.5.1 bring everything up to latest and greatest or does that version still require bits and pieces to be collected from the amiverse to be latest and best working version?
I added 2 examples to my post above since you posted.
I'm not sure how to go about consolidation of the pieces. I received their last copy of materials, which included Mainview as their new viewer. I think "view" was standard until then. Although this viewer might be irrelevant today, if you don't have it, then you surely don't have the last version of AdPro.
I'm not even sure what parts can be made public. I know Perry S Kivolowitz was at Amiga 30th Mountain View and I just hope that this subject was raised. Perry is an amiga.org member as well. Let's see if we get a response to your questions.
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According to this thread 2.5.1 was indeed the latest version. Seems like several folks made it available in the past, may possibly still be there?
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=20640
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@thread
guys, just a note of caution. amiga.org does not allow linking to sites distributing copyrighted material without permission. just fyi....
-- eliyahu
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@thread
guys, just a note of caution. amiga.org does not allow linking to sites distributing copyrighted material without permission. just fyi....
-- eliyahu
Totally understand. And just for clarification, I was not looking for an illegal copy of software. I was asking if there was a freely distributed update patch to my legally owned software.
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Haha. You're like me. I just want the latest version of stuff, I don't care if it actually addresses any of the issues I might be having. ;)
Old saying: "For every new version of a program that's released, 10 bugs are fixed, but 10 new ones are created." ;)
I know.. your right. But I want the latest! hahaha.
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Art Department Professional 2.5.1 is legally available from the TOSEC Amiga Collection hosted on archive.org.
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Art Department Professional 2.5.1 is legally available from the TOSEC Amiga Collection hosted on archive.org.
Thank you Nicholas for providing the link and for clearing up the legality!
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Art Department Professional 2.5.1 is legally available from the TOSEC Amiga Collection hosted on archive.org.
Why would you assume that site holds "legal" distributions?
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Why would you assume that site holds "legal" distributions?
Why would you assume it doesn't?
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Why would you assume it doesn't?
Somebody's always gotta be a party pooper. :rofl:
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Somebody's always gotta be a party pooper. :rofl:
Indeed. Get off my lawn, kids today, etc :lol:
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Why would you assume it doesn't?
well, for starters, pkivolowitz (http://www.amiga.org/forums/member.php?u=7478) is the founder of ASDG -- so i suspect he'd know if he had released his software for public distribution or not.
@pkivolowitz
can you help clarify if adpro was released to the public or not? since we don't allow links to copyrighted material without distribution permission, this is an issue for the site staff now. you're also always welcome to send me a PM if you see this kind of thing in the future.
@thread
until this is clarified, i am removing the links to the TOSEC ADFs.
-- eliyahu
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I guess the question (in my situation anyway) would be if the update from 2.5.0 to 2.5.1 was, when released, a free update for legal owners of 2.5.0? If it was then I believe there would be nothing illegal for me to update my purchased with serial copy of 2.5.0 to 2.5.1
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This is why the Amiga is dead.
Lots of grumpy old men seeking for an excuse.
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I guess the question (in my situation anyway) would be if the update from 2.5.0 to 2.5.1 was, when released, a free update for legal owners of 2.5.0? If it was then I believe there would be nothing illegal for me to update my purchased with serial copy of 2.5.0 to 2.5.1
Exactly.
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This is why the Amiga is dead.
Lots of grumpy old men seeking for an excuse.
If an owner of a copyrighted work believes his work is being illegally distributed by a huge organisation such as archive.org then all it takes is one email to them to have it removed as is their legal right.
If it doesn't get removed then it's pay day for them in court. Wouldn't even need a lawyer.
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In this time and age I don't quite see why you would want to use AdPro, there are so many other options that are better, ImageFx, SView and others.
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In this time and age I don't quite see why you would want to use AdPro, there are so many other options that are better, ImageFx, SView and others.
I love Imagefx. I have bought versions 2 through 4.5. Love that software. It is my goto. However I also like to use PARpro which is a batch processing program that communicates between my Personal animation recorder and Adpro to batch process the images and fields in my PAR animations.
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There was a version distributed as a cover disk in Europe. Other than that no version has ever been "legally" downloadable as far as I can recall.
Hey, I sold that company - do what you want. Just don't call it legal when likely it is not.
For those here who have a problem with me expressing this personal opinion... kiss my ass.
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For those here who have a problem with me expressing this personal opinion... kiss my ass.
Go on, tell us how you really feel! ;)
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I don't see why being so hostile towards the author of 68k program
that is being pirated (archive.org is not legal as far as I know unless
they have written permission of author for every download they offer
but it still serves purpose of preserving all old Amiga software).
There was a scandal lately with Morphos code being used without
permission of author and it blew to sky and back.
Why insult and discriminate authors of old 68k programs when their whole
commercial creations are publicly pirated while being expected to uphold
sanctity of NG software?
Some of us still have old Amigas working (and without RTG).
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Why insult and discriminate authors of old 68k programs when their whole commercial creations are publicly pirated while being expected to uphold sanctity of NG software?
Did I miss something here? Are we even reading the same thread? Seems to me OP posted a very clear and legitimate question: He's the owner of a boxed and fully licensed copy of 2.5. He wanted to know if 2.5.1 was released as a free update that he would then be entitled to download, as is the case of much commercial software today.
All the author had to do was say "Yes, 2.5.1 was released as a free update to licensed owners of 2.5", or "No, 2.5.1 was never released as an update and is still copyrighted commercial software". That's it. Either one of those two responses would've sufficed, and he probably would've gotten a big thanks all around. But then a bunch of people came along and got all OT, and then to make matters worse the author comes along and rather than provide any clarification, basically tells everyone to kiss his ass.
There is not enough facepalms in the world for the absurdity of these forums, some days. :(
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/c1/41/d0/c141d00e6a307cea8028dd59c5ad6f47.jpg)
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Yes I agree , person asking the question and author never really had
an argument about this but author was insulted so he probably didn't
feel the need to answer.
BTW Pic looks mu russian blue cat before feeding time :roflmao:
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(http://upandhumming.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/tommy-lee-wtf-meme-generator-i-m-sorry-but-did-i-just-miss-something-aa7d52.jpg)
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(http://upandhumming.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/tommy-lee-wtf-meme-generator-i-m-sorry-but-did-i-just-miss-something-aa7d52.jpg)
Oh lord. Appropriate pic, but terrible movie. :p
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BTW Pic looks mu russian blue cat before feeding time :roflmao:
You'd better feed him, stat! :D
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Yes :)
A perfect chance to ask the author if he would be interested to allow
ADPro to be included in something like Aros68k or maybe give source
codes (from the kindness of his heart) in case there was someone
interested in them.
There it was , I saw it !
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@Mike
I better not cause it's a "she" with 13 kg in weight and very nasty
personality when it comes to diet :) If she keeps up she will fall under
"big cats" family soon , it's already size of a hungry mountain lioness :roflmao:
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Yes :)
A perfect chance to ask the author if he would be interested to allow
ADPro to be included in something like Aros68k or maybe give source
codes (from the kindness of his heart) in case there was someone
interested in them.
There it was , I saw it !
Nothing would give me greater pleasure.
But the code belongs to a publicly traded company who almost certainly doesn't know they own it and even more almost certainly would consider the lawyer time it would take to make a decision and write a release, too much investment for something they care so little about.
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Big thank you for clarifying current status of program :)
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Nothing would give me greater pleasure.
But the code belongs to a publicly traded company who almost certainly doesn't know they own it and even more almost certainly would consider the lawyer time it would take to make a decision and write a release, too much investment for something they care so little about.
You could have just said "see Newtek response re:Lightwave". heh.
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Follow up to this:
I asked Avid if they would agree to open source ADPro.
They agreed with enthusiasm (pending an IP review).
No one could find the code. Not myself. Not any former employee I was able to reach. Not Avid.
The summary: We tried to do a good deed. It didn't work out. We're sorry.
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Follow up to this:
I asked Avid if they would agree to open source ADPro.
They agreed with enthusiasm (pending an IP review).
No one could find the code. Not myself. Not any former employee I was able to reach. Not Avid.
The summary: We tried to do a good deed. It didn't work out. We're sorry.
Any opinion on distributing the binaries. Example:multipic replacement for the iff loader as illustrated in one of my earlier links.
#6
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The summary: We tried to do a good deed. It didn't work out. We're sorry.
Rats! Thanks for trying, anyway! :pint:
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Hey, I sold that company - do what you want. Just don't call it legal when likely it is not.
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Follow up to this:
I asked Avid if they would agree to open source ADPro.
They agreed with enthusiasm (pending an IP review).
No one could find the code. Not myself. Not any former employee I was able to reach. Not Avid.
The summary: We tried to do a good deed. It didn't work out. We're sorry.
whats there to tell except agree with you on legality issue:)
thanks for your effort and sorry that the sources are lost. it might have been interesting to preserve them as reference. would it be possible to release binaries legally? maybe olaf schoenweiss would line to include them in his aros68k distribution (aros vision), as he did with a number of good amiga software upon allowance of the ip holders.;)