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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: Vlabguy1 on September 16, 2015, 05:44:03 PM
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Just curious...thoughts reviews..does it actually exsist?
Rich.
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Yes, of course they do. The original manufacturer open-sourced the design years ago, was a guy over on Amibay making knock-offs right up until recently, maybe he even still is. He made copies of the original Thylacine (with one USB port) and also a "Mini Thylacine", which had two ports, or four, I think it was four running off a header... don't remember off-hand but there was tons of pictures posted in the threads on Amibay.
As far as "how did they work"? Well, I had one of his Thylacines, and it *sucked* in my A2000. Would completely bog the system down as soon as you plugged in any device. Spoke with one other A2000 user who had the same problem. But this was a Zorro-II issue not a Thylacine issue. I sold mine on and traded up to an X-Surf 100 with RapidRoad module, and couldn't be happier with that combo. Something about how the RR handles devices that the much older Thylacine couldn't, blah blah, TL;DR. Thylacine works fine if you have an A3000/A4000, but RR or Deneb or other options are better. ;)
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Yes, of course they do. The original manufacturer open-sourced the design years ago, was a guy over on Amibay making knock-offs right up until recently, maybe he even still is. He made copies of the original Thylacine (with one USB port) and also a "Mini Thylacine", which had two ports, or four, I think it was four running off a header... don't remember off-hand but there was tons of pictures posted in the threads on Amibay.
As far as "how did they work"? Well, I had one of his Thylacines, and it *sucked* in my A2000. Would completely bog the system down as soon as you plugged in any device. Spoke with one other A2000 user who had the same problem. But this was a Zorro-II issue not a Thylacine issue. I sold mine on and traded up to an X-Surf 100 with RapidRoad module, and couldn't be happier with that combo. Something about how the RR handles devices that the much older Thylacine couldn't, blah blah, TL;DR. Thylacine works fine if you have an A3000/A4000, but RR or Deneb or other options are better. ;)
Theses would be for my 4000's n 4000T's..I'll look into it.
There was an X-Surf on EBay a few days ago..but I'm sure its gone, had a USB module attached as well..
Rich.
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I have one for my GBA1000 it's not completed yet still need to Finish gathering a few parts, Once the card is cvomplete I'll also test it in my A4000.
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Theses would be for my 4000's n 4000T's..I'll look into it.
There was an X-Surf on EBay a few days ago..but I'm sure its gone, had a USB module attached as well.
Amigastore.eu has X-Surf 100's and RapidRoads in stock. That's my go-to distributor for whenever AmigaKit is out of something, or I can't find it on their website. ;)
http://amigastore.eu/en/6-amiga-4000
ProTip: Get the RapidRoad module for clockport. It works exactly the same as the RR for X-Surf 100, but is also compatible with A1200's. Yes, it is a little more expensive, but worth it if you ever think you might move it to another system. The only difference is that Jens disables the clockport in the "RR for X-Surf 100" models. ;)
ProTip 2: Search the forums, I believe someone posted on here a while back that they couldn't get the RR to work in a 4000T. I think it might have had to do with what processor card they were using, but I can't remember all the details. In any case, since you mention having multiple 4000's and 4000T's, you've got plenty of test platforms. #Jealous! ;)
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Amigastore.eu has X-Surf 100's and RapidRoads in stock. That's my go-to distributor for whenever AmigaKit is out of something, or I can't find it on their website. ;)
http://amigastore.eu/en/6-amiga-4000
ProTip: Get the RapidRoad module for clockport. It works exactly the same as the RR for X-Surf 100, but is also compatible with A1200's. Yes, it is a little more expensive, but worth it if you ever think you might move it to another system. The only difference is that Jens disables the clockport in the "RR for X-Surf 100" models. ;)
ProTip 2: Search the forums, I believe someone posted on here a while back that they couldn't get the RR to work in a 4000T. I think it might have had to do with what processor card they were using, but I can't remember all the details. In any case, since you mention having multiple 4000's and 4000T's, you've got plenty of test platforms. #Jealous! ;)
Mike,
Thanks for the info and link..oh boy those are pricey...ouch. But a good website for sure.
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Yes, of course they do. The original manufacturer open-sourced the design years ago, was a guy over on Amibay making knock-offs right up until recently, maybe he even still is. He made copies of the original Thylacine (with one USB port) and also a "Mini Thylacine", which had two ports, or four, I think it was four running off a header... don't remember off-hand but there was tons of pictures posted in the threads on Amibay.
As far as "how did they work"? Well, I had one of his Thylacines, and it *sucked* in my A2000. Would completely bog the system down as soon as you plugged in any device. Spoke with one other A2000 user who had the same problem. But this was a Zorro-II issue not a Thylacine issue. I sold mine on and traded up to an X-Surf 100 with RapidRoad module, and couldn't be happier with that combo. Something about how the RR handles devices that the much older Thylacine couldn't, blah blah, TL;DR. Thylacine works fine if you have an A3000/A4000, but RR or Deneb or other options are better. ;)
It is not the Thylacine that uses the resources, but the USB stack (Poseidon); the original designers own software ran without a noticible speed hit. The Poseidon software can be used along with a small script to turn on the stack, reset some priorities, and when done, shut down the stack releasing those priorities. Poseidon REALLY loves an accelerated system.
The original Thylacine is slow and needs a powered hub, but the 4-port mini Thylacine improves both aspects.
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It is not the Thylacine that uses the resources, but the USB stack (Poseidon); the original designers own software ran without a noticible speed hit. The Poseidon software can be used along with a small script to turn on the stack, reset some priorities, and when done, shut down the stack releasing those priorities. Poseidon REALLY loves an accelerated system.
The original Thylacine is slow and needs a powered hub, but the 4-port mini Thylacine improves both aspects.
I would really like two of these boards...and accelerated Amigas #notaprob :)
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#MustBeNice ;)
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Since there's a limitation to the amount of money I'm willing to spend on my A1500, and the RapidRoad would have required that I first bought a network card, I decided to go for a MiniThylacine instead. But I had problems with it as well, as can be seen in this video: https://youtu.be/c0ZwjEyKn_c
Basically, I had to remove my SupraRAM 2000 card in order to avoid slowdown on my Amiga. After this was done, everything worked just fine. It must be said however, that my Amiga was soft-kicked to KS3.1 while doing this, and I didn't use Trident in my tests.
I bought the MiniThylacine card on EBay in May, where the seller (genny flick) said it would be the last one for 2-3 months. But maybe he will start making new cards soon.
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Since there's a limitation to the amount of money I'm willing to spend on my A1500, and the RapidRoad would have required that I first bought a network card, I decided to go for a MiniThylacine instead. But I had problems with it as well, as can be seen in this video: https://youtu.be/c0ZwjEyKn_c
Basically, I had to remove my SupraRAM 2000 card in order to avoid slowdown on my Amiga. After this was done, everything worked just fine. It must be said however, that my Amiga was soft-kicked to KS3.1 while doing this, and I didn't use Trident in my tests.
I bought the MiniThylacine card on EBay in May, where the seller (genny flick) said it would be the last one for 2-3 months. But maybe he will start making new cards soon.
I can't find that eBay seller.. :(..
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I can't find that eBay seller.. :(..
He's on Amibay. Look for the threads that are like 40 pages long. ;)
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Hmm I really thought the Thylacine was extinct.
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Hmm I really thought the Thylacine was extinct.
Seems ..he needs a certain amount of commitment orders to actually start a production run. I'm in for two
if I can get a hold of him
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I can't find that eBay seller.. :(..
He can be found here: http://www.ebay.com/usr/genny_flick
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http://www.amibay.com/showthread.php?53997-MiniThylacine4Ports-%28PreOrder%29&highlight=thylacine
http://www.amibay.com/showthread.php?46749-Thylacine-USB-New-Production-%284th-batch%29&highlight=thylacine
http://www.amibay.com/showthread.php?51870-Thylacine-USB-New-Production-%286th-batch%29&highlight=thylacine
http://www.amibay.com/showthread.php?53901-Thylacine-USB-Metal-Mounting-Brackets-2&highlight=thylacine
http://www.amibay.com/showthread.php?53770-MiniThylacine4Ports-%29&highlight=thylacine
http://www.amibay.com/showthread.php?52892-Thylacine-USB-Metal-Mounting-Brackets&highlight=thylacine
http://www.amibay.com/showthread.php?42395-Thylacine-USB-new-production-%28third-batch%29&highlight=thylacine
http://www.amibay.com/showthread.php?37496-Thylacine-USB-card-DIY&highlight=thylacine
http://www.amibay.com/showthread.php?39995-Thylacine-USB-New-Production-%282nd-batch%29&highlight=thylacine
http://www.amibay.com/showthread.php?38712-Thylacine-USB-new-production-started-22-12-2012&highlight=thylacine
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He can be found here: http://www.ebay.com/usr/genny_flick
Ah..I was missing the underscore...got it. I'll shoot him an email.
Thanks.
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PM sent as an option
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I bought a mini Thylacine 4 port a little over a year ago on Amibay. Communication was great and shipping was quick. Unfortunately I have not had a chance to use it as my power supply died on my 3000t before I had a chance to install it. I already have a Deneb installed in my 4000D so I hadn't thought about it until I saw this thread.
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ProTip 2: Search the forums, I believe someone posted on here a while back that they couldn't get the RR to work in a 4000T. I think it might have had to do with what processor card they were using, but I can't remember all the details. In any case, since you mention having multiple 4000's and 4000T's, you've got plenty of test platforms. #Jealous! ;)
Just to help keep all up to date on Jens' products... turns out the Rapid Road 4000T problem is a bug in rapidroadxs100usb.device by Chris Hodges. A member on EAB, Roomeo, offered to send his A4000 to Chris to get the software fixed... Jens was cool with that. Read here from page 17 on for all the details and hopefully a resolution.
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=75396&page=17
Also, all is not well with the new ACA1221 when used with the ACA500 - Jens is claiming power problems but this one seems a bit more vague to me. Read from page 14 on for all the details. Refer back to these threads for updates on fixes.
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=79130&page=14
I'm just mentioning so that all can be correctly informed... :)
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I'm just mentioning so that all can be correctly informed... :)
Interesting threads. The drama continues, haha. Although I admit I did tune out on the second thread after just a few posts down, where somebody is complaining about ACATune not working properly and they only have Kickstart 3.0. For the love of god and all that is holy, spend the lousy $16 bucks for some 3.1 ROM's and see if that fixes the problem, before complaining. I swear I just want to grab some people and shake them sometimes, LOL. :lol:
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Well, I agree... and I'm not gonna get down on Jens but it's clear that these two products weren't fully tested. And yes, there's quit a bit-0-drama there! :lol: