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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: lordnicon on February 22, 2004, 11:38:47 PM
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i just got a amiga 2000
it has 2 card which i do not know what they are can any one hellp.
all the info i can see on the card
Architect-256
from
the resolution series
if any one can help that would be great
ask if you want anythink else
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some further information would be great, or perhaps a digicam picture of that card. this might help indentifying it ;-)
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A description of any ports or connectors on the card may help, as well. Heck, is it a Zorro II card or ISA card? Too many things here we don't know.
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my guess......
a TBC (Time Base Corrector)
Anyone else want to make a wild guess???
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my guess......
a TBC (Time Base Corrector)
Anyone else want to make a wild guess???
Actually, that was my wild-guess, as well. That's why I asked "Zorro II or ISA?" If it's ISA, I'd bet it's a TBC. ;-)
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or.............
It could be a flickerfixer! :-?
Or
A SCSI card! :-?
it could be ANYTHING!!!!! :-? :-?
Good thing he didn't list it on ebay this way, I'd of probably bid and won it just to see.
I LLOOVVEE a surprise! :-D :-?
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Says something about the card here http://www.relec.ch/Occasions.html (http://www.relec.ch/Occasions.html)
Using googles translate on the site gave me this ,Chart "Architect-256 from The Series resolution". comprising 2 catches dB 9 (1 male and 1 female) and and 4 cards: Synchro, R, V, B - would seem to be a graphics board.
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yes your right thats the one :-D i would add a crapy pic but i can't :nervous:
how do i get it to work i have no disks or anythink
edit
i have 2 of them do you know how to wire them up
i would just like to say i am new to the amiga 2000 i just had the 500 and 600 but i i get the 2000 :hammer:
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amigamad wrote:
Says something about the card here http://www.relec.ch/Occasions.html (http://www.relec.ch/Occasions.html)
Using googles translate on the site gave me this ,Chart "Architect-256 from The Series resolution". comprising 2 catches dB 9 (1 male and 1 female) and and 4 cards: Synchro, R, V, B - would seem to be a graphics board.
Awe man!!!
I was SOOOOO close.
$HI+!
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lol i'v been looking around for days lol
so i guesss i need a cable to go from my video card to the architect-256 cards then what does any one have this card :-?
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oh come people i'm in need of hellp
i hate not knowing what they are
here are some pics very bad pic but pic all the same http://homepage.ntlworld.com/margaret.greenfield1/card.htm
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well, the output connectors "seem" to be SRGB composite connectors [i'd say they where buggered up bnc attempts???] and two HD15's???
we'd need to see any other connectors on the board, are there any pins in visible groups sticking out? or are there any places where pins could go in?
thanks...
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IIRC These card were used in Flight Simulators.. Special software was intergrated with them. Last one I saw was at McGuire AFB in NJ....
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well, the output connectors "seem" to be SRGB composite connectors [i'd say they where buggered up bnc attempts???] and two HD15's???
Those aren't HD15s... Those are DB9s.
Surely the 4 RCA connectors are RED, GREEN, BLUE, SYNC. This card does some video processing/output.
Those 2 DB9 connectors, though. 1 male, 1 female. That doesn't make this any more clear, though. They might be a communication of some kind. Perhaps these cards originally had a breakout box of some kind? Of course they still could be video, as I have an early NEC multisync monitor that uses a DB9 instead of an HD15.
And look at all those ZIP chips on those cards! A row the full length of the Zorro card.
Can you do two more things?
Those "tall" chips that look like they're standing up along the top of the card... What is the model number on them, and how many are there? They're ZIP memory modules, and knowing that piece of information, we can see how much RAM is on that card. That may give some hints as to what it does. (edit: after looking at the pic again, those maybe aren't ZIPs at the top.... Anyhow, what's the writing on them?)
Also, what's the model number on that large ceramic chip in the bottom-center of picture 2?
At this stage, I'd go with vpcs's explaination. These two cards may have originally been dedicated hardware for use in a simulator of some kind.
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ok yes it was used for a imulator of some kind (no idea what )
if they are RCAs then they are very small ones coz they are not norm RCAs
the writing on the chip is
"AM95c60-16GC
/30 001LYEN
(c)1987 AMD"
the writing at the top of that is
"ARCHITECT-256
from
the resolution series"
it also has "(c) charscreen LTD 1991"
EDIT the chips at the top
"D42274V-10
9229FUO29
NEC JAPAN" and there is 16 each side the chip so 32 all to gether
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I know what these cards are!!!! I have a few of them at my house. and I posted here ages ago too asking what they were. I think they're multi screen cards. yours are under a different name but the chips are the same and mine are made by chartscreen or whatever too. I got some amigas from an air traffic control college and they used these cards along with software to simulate the air traffic control screens. so I'm pretty sure you won't be able to use them with workbench or anything, but maybe? who knows. they were designed to have a couple of monitors connected to the computer displaying different things (each computer I got had 2 of the cards in).
hope this helps!
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You know what? it sound like these cards Really were for Flight simulators.that would explain why each Amiga2000 had 2 of them...because they need to be able to simulate all the windows in the cockpit of an airplane..........so I assume each monitor had a diferent window in it, and you probably had two monitors very close together to look like one Giant window from an airplane. Or something like that.
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Robbie wrote:
I know what these cards are!!!! I have a few of them at my house. and I posted here ages ago too asking what they were. I think they're multi screen cards. yours are under a different name but the chips are the same and mine are made by chartscreen or whatever too. I got some amigas from an air traffic control college and they used these cards along with software to simulate the air traffic control screens. so I'm pretty sure you won't be able to use them with workbench or anything, but maybe? who knows. they were designed to have a couple of monitors connected to the computer displaying different things (each computer I got had 2 of the cards in).
hope this helps!
same here mate i got mine from a air traffic control place too.
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the same cards I got were used to display the radar screens that you get in air traffic control towers. where the planes are shown as little dots etc?? If you've got all the software on the computer that you got the cards with, and you plug in a normal monitor in the video port you'll see a program run at startup which initializes the cards.
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same here mate i got mine from a air traffic control place too.
ahh well there you go. where abouts? I don't think there are that many colleges for air traffic control are there? I got mine ages ago from the one in bournemouth.
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well i tryed to use a monitor by using the 9pin male plug but nothing (do i need a cable going to the card from my video card)
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i got mine from a man that worked at gatwick airport
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I've never used them to be honest! just took them out. I don't think they were designed for the AmigaOS so I've never even tried using them for that. I've seen the software they use on the hard drive and I think you need to be using a normal monitor to load the software and get them running, and even then it would only be for a air traffic simulator.
If your computer came as the same kinda spec as mine you should also see a microway flicker fixer in the video card slot which you can use with a modern svga monitor if you get an EGA to VGA adapter.
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yeah i have the same video card as you too.
i'll try and find a EGA to VGA adapter thanks.
i would like to try and get the cards working the software that was on there has gone :pissed:
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lol well it just so happens that I bought one the other day! because i'd never used the flicker fixer before, just the standard video port.
I got mine from Saturn Computers (http://www.6thplanet.com/menu/wire_cbvi_cbv9m15m.html). Came by royal mail pretty quickly.
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lol cool thanks.
do you have the software to make the cards work or where i can get it form i don't like having card with don't work lol
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err...well I did have it...somewhere :-) but when I got this computer it had an old A2090a hard disk controller and a REALLY old 40mb hard drive in there and i've taken both out now. I don't have any of it anywhere else! sorry!
I'm not sure where you'd get it from either, I'm sure i must have searched the net for it before. Google would be your best bet for finding it though I guess.
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i looked on google with out the software name i'm out of luck.
i have this hard drive controller in mine http://www.amiga-hardware.com/a2091.html
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yup that's a better one! I'm guessing you have a memory board with 2mb on it and an A2620 accelerator too? I don't think the roms are new enough on the a2620 to use it with an operating system later than 1.3 which is a pain.
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i have a2620 but i cant see any ram on it but i don't know
a2091
a2058
hummm it new to amiga so i don't know whats diffrent with the OS
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EDIT the chips at the top
"D42274V-10
9229FUO29
NEC JAPAN" and there is 16 each side the chip so 32 all to gether
Ok... Those appear to be 256k*4bit ZIP chips. 32 of them would give the card a total of 4MB working RAM.
The AMD AM95c60 is the graphics processor of your card. I can't find any supported Amiga cards with that chip. Most likely the custom simulator software is the only thing that runs on this board. Bummer.
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damn the takes the piss :madashell: oh well no bigy i guess ( can't sell them ether)
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( can't sell them ether)
If they're the kind of zip chips they used in thae A3000 or Bridgeboards, you may have a market for those alone as they usually go for a good price.
Don't know what kind of accelerator you've got in that one (a 68020?) butif you have one, try to get 3.1 roms for A2000/500s install them, and then get a copy of AmigaOS 3.9. Also recomended is a megachip Agnus adapter or equivalent to bring up your chip ram to 2 megs. I ran an A2000 for years (still have it, but I love my A3000T) on ! meg of memory, but when I finally broke down and put a hard drive in, the mere fact that it was there soaked up enough memory so that many programs no longer ran. I installed a different hard drive card that also had another 8 megs of memory and I thought I'd died and gone to heaven. :-D
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this is my accelerator card http://www.amiga-hardware.com/
where should i try and get 3.1 roms from i'm looking on ebay but no look realy
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you'll need to check the ROMS on that actual accelerator card before you get the new OS because chances are that your boards rom revision won't be compatible with version 3.1 of workbench.
It's because if you hold both mouse buttons down at startup, you get the a2620 accelerator boards config screen and the newer operating systems use the 2 mouse buttons at startup to display the early boot configuration (which workbench 1.3 doesn't have). Have a look on the actual ROM chips on the accelerator card; there's 2 and they're at the top near the left hand side. it should say a rom version on them.
So if you get the new operating system you'll probably have to take out the accelerator before you can use it. that's what I had to do.
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i can't see any rom numbers which chips should i like on in my last post i had a link that the card can you should me on it
edit nop its not there its here http://www.amiga-hardware.com/a2620.html lol
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errrr mate i did the " 2 mouse buttons at startup to display the early boot configuration" thing and it says
AmigaDos on 68000
AmigaDos on 68020
Amix
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AMIX??! Does this option work? Maybe your simulator software is actually on the AMIX (Amiga UNIX) boot?
What unique machines you lucky folks have.
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well thats a no it does't work
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so what should i update/upgread to get my A2000 working well
where can i buy stuff in the uk from
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ok i think the ROMs are on the right and one says
390282-04
A2620 U4
ODD 9EB2
and the other says
390283-04
A2620 U5
Even 4B70
what ever that means lol
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These are not RCA but HF-PCB connectors. The same kind was used on the Visiona graphics card. It's like a predecessor of BNC connectors, offers better signal quality than DB9.
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hey again. I tried posting on this topic a few days ago but it wouldn't let me. I wrote quite a lot too! it was annoying! anyway, i'm not too sure if the numbers on your ROMS tell us the revision. I think the -04 at the end could be the revision though because I remember finding out I had one board with Revision 3 and one had 4 so it would figure that yours are of a similar revision i guess (same company etc).
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is there a better way to find out what my roms are
and i'm sorry your post did't work.
i want to change the ROMs on my mobo do i need to change the ROMS on my hard drive card too?